MM query - increased hunger 4-6 p.m.

[Vera Resnick]

Patient has increased hunger 4-6 p.m., especially for carbs. any
ideas? I couldn't find much in my rep.

Thanks,
Vera

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Vera Resnick RCHom
Classical Homeopath
Alternative Medicine
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[Tanya Marquette]

here are a few rubrics you can use. remember that carbs are sugar
lyc is agg 4-8 and has cravings for carbs, for example.
tanya

STOMACH - APPETITE - increased - afternoon

arg-met.k bov.a1 calc.b4.de,b4a.de,bg2 cham.b7.de,bg2 chin.a1,b7.de,bg2,k coff.b7.de,bg2 colch.a1,k guaj.a1,b4.de,bg2,k ham.fd3.de lyc.k nat-c.a1,k nux-m.b7a.de nux-v.b7.de,bg2,k psor.a1,k sep.b4.de,bg2 suis-hep.rly4 tritic-vg.fd5.de zinc.a1,b4.de,bg2,k
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - sweets - desire

abrom-a.ks5,vml3 acon-l.a2 aegop-p.vml3 aeth.tl1 agar.mtf33,vh agath-a.nl2 aids.nl2 Alf.bro1,bt3,ld1.de Am-c.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k amp.rly4 anac.vh anan.a2 anthraci.vh1,vml3 anthraq.rly4 aq-mar.rbp6 aran.ccrh1 aran-ix.bt3,jl3,mg1.de,sf1.de,vml3 ARG-MET.gsw1,k ARG-N.bg2,br1,k,mrr1,tl1 arge-pl.rwt5 arizon-l.nl2 ars.bt3,k ars-s-f.k2,vml3 atp.rly4 aur.mrr1 Aur-m-n.vh,vml3,wbt2 AUR-S.vml3,wbt2 aza.c1 bacls-10.fmm1,pte1,ptj1 bamb-a.stb2.de bar-c.bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1 bar-ox-suc.rly4 bar-s.k2 bell.mrr1,vh bit-ar.wht1 Bry.k bufobg2,k cael.jl caj.vml3 Calc.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,mtf33 Calc-f.bt3,jl3,mg1.de,sp1 calc-p.mrr1,mtf33,vh Calc-s.k CANN-I.vh Carb-v.b2.de,bg2,c1,gsw1,k,mtf33,tl1 carc.c1,cd,gk6,mlr1,mrr1,mtf33,pc,sys1,zzh cassia-s.ccrh1,vml3 caste.bt3,jl3 caust.vh cere-b.a1,a2,bt3,vml3 CHIN.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,mtf33 chinin-ar.c1,k,vml3 CHININ-S.vh,vml3 choc.srj3,vml3 chord-umb.rly4 Cinabro1,bt3,ld1.de,mtf33,tl1 cocabro1,bt3,ld1.de coca-c.sk4 Cocain.bro1,bt3,ld1.de coli.rly4 conch.fkr1 corian-s.knl6 crot-h.ld1.de,vml3 cub.a2 cypra-eg.sde6.de des-ac.rbp6 dream-p.sdj1 dys.a,fmm1,jl,pte1,ptj1,vml3 Elapsk ephe-si.hsj1 Euphr.vh falco-pe.nl2 ferr.bg2,mrr1 fic-m.gya1 Foll.vml3 fum.rly1,rly4,vml3 fuma-ac.rly4 gaert.fmm1,pte1,ptj1 galeoc-c-h.gms1 germ-met.srj5 gink-b.sbd1,vml3 glycyr-g.cte1 granit-m.es1 Graph.mrr1 Hep.kr1 Hera.vml3 hydrog.srj,vml3 iber.vml3 ign.zf ignis-alc.es2 Ip.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k irid-met.srj5 joan.bro1 kali-ar.k Kali-bi.mrr1 Kali-c.b2.de,b4.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,mtf33 kali-p.k,mrr1 Kali-s.k,mrr1 kolastb3 lac-ac.vml3 lac-c.sne lac-cp.sk4 lac-h.htj1,vml3 lac-loxod-a.hrn2 lach.zf lepr.vml3 lil-t.bg2,vml3 limest-b.vml3 lob.mrr1,vh loxo-recl.knl4 LYC.b2.de,b4.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,mtf33,tl1 Mag-m.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,mtf33 mand.jl,mg1.de,sp1 mang-p.rly4 mangi.vml3 Med.bg2,jl2,k,mrr1,tl1 melal-alt.gya4 Meny.vh,vml3 meph.jl,vml3 Merc.gsw1,k,mrr1,st merc-d.bg1 merc-i-f.c1 Moni.rfm1 Morg.vml3 morg-g.a,fmm1,pte1,ptj1,vml3 morg-p.a,fmm1,pte1,ptj1 nat-ar.k Nat-c.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1 nat-m.bg2,gsw1,k nat-s.zf nat-sil.fd3.de Nit-ac.vh nux-m.zf nux-v.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mtf33 oena.zf onop.jl,vml3 op.k ozonesde2 pant-ac.rly4 paull.a2 penic.vml3 petr.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k Phos.mrr1,tl1,vh pieri-b.mlk9.de pitu-a.a,ft,vml2,vml3 plac.rzf5 plat.dx1 Plb.gsw1,k,mtf33 podo.fd3.de positr.nl2 propl.ub1 prot.a,fmm1,pte1,ptj1,vml3 psor.al pull-g.vl,vl1.nl,vml3 Puls.ctc,ft,mrr1,rb2,vh,vh/dg,vhx1 pycnop-sa.mrz1 rad-br.bt3,c1 rat.mrr1,vml3 Rheumb2.de,b7.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mtf33 Rhus-g.tmo3 Rhus-t.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1 rib-ac.bt3,jl3,vml3 Sabad.b2.de,b7.de,bg2,gsw1,k Sacch.sht,sst1,vml3 sacch-a.fd2.de,gmj3 Sacch-l.sna,vml3 sal-al.blc1 sang.kr1 sanguis-s.hrn2 sanic.mrr1,vh Sec.k Sep.bg2,k,mrr1,mtf33,tl1 ser-ang.vml3 sil.bt3,kr1,mrr1 spong.hr1 Staph.dx1,mrr1,mtf33 staphycoc.rly4 Stram.mrr1 suis-em.rly4 suis-pan.rly4 Sul-ac.vh SULPH.b2.de,bg2,gsw1,k,mrr1,tl1 suprar.rly4 syc.bka1,fmm1,pte1,ptj1,vml3 symph.fd3.de tarax.vml3 tarent.ccrh1 tetox.pin2 thiam.rly4 thuj.mrr1 thyr.br1,bro1,vh,vh/dg,vhx2,vml3 Tub.jl2,k,mtf33 tung-met.bdx1 ulm-c.jsj8 urol-h.rwt vanad.dx,vml3 vero-o.rly3,rly4,vml3 x-rayjl,sp1,vml3
GENERALS - FOOD and DRINKS - sugar - desire

am-c.c1,k,kr1,tl1 am-m.bt3,ld1.de ARG-N.k,kr1,mrr1,mtf33,tl1 Calc.k carb-v.c1 carc.cd,gk6,mlr1,pc,vh caust.gk chir-fl.gya2 coc-c.mgm cocabg corian-s.knl6 crot-h.br1 dys.ptj1,vh falco-pe.nl2 fic-m.gya1 foll.asm gaert.fmm1,pte1,ptj1 gink-b.sbd1 ip.mtf33 Kali-c.b4.de,k,mtf33 Lyc.b4.de,kr1,mtf33,sf1.de op.a1,a2,bt3 Phos.vh prot.bt3,jl2,jl3 Sabad.b7.de Sacch.c1 Sec.k staph.vh sulph.bt3,h2,sf1.de tub.jl2

[Joy Lucas]

The rubric 'appetite, increased, afternoon' brings up some useful rx and apart from the 'sweets' that Tanya mentions I would add 'farinaceous food' as well. Lyc is the classic for this time of day and food desires!

Joy

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[Vera Resnick]

Thanks.

It seems too "trite" to me to give Lyc just because of the afternoon
modality. Although maybe it does fit.

Px came to me because of compulsive eating issues. She's much
benefited from exercise, very closed in, very testing of homeopathy,
but insisted on making an appt even though I made it clear that on its
own, homeopathy would not help her, and she'd need to make lifestyle
changes. Problems with partnerships, which she wouldn't go into.
Tendency to deep depressions, although insists that mood is fine.
Attempts to run the session and the phone calls, demeanor is a mixture
of haughty and desperate for help. Not an easy patient!!

I gave her Sepia for starters, it touched but also produced increased
appetite - that's when the 4-6 hunger symptom came out as she said now
she's hungry all day.

Vera
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Vera Resnick RCHom
Classical Homeopath
Alternative Medicine
054-4640736
e-mail: vera.homeopath@gmail.com
www.freewebs.com/verahomeopath

[Joy Lucas]

You'd virtually never prescribe on one sx unless it truly was SRP and as you've given a rx, the Sepia, then wouldn't it be best to watch and wait to see if this is just a movement in the case and it continues to move along rather than prescribe again - or has a lot of time passed?

Time modalities need to be really strong to include in a case anyway and unless this has been a theme all along I wouldn't give it too much emphasis especially for someone with eating disorders as this will likely fluctuate throughout the case.

Nat carb is in that rubric though - had you considered the Natrums, the carbon has eating problems associated with depressions.

Joy

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[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Vera,

"Problems with partnerships, which she wouldn't go into." Sounds like
that's where the gold is. You don't need to know the "story", but you
do need to know the dynamics, sensitivities/susceptibilities,
"delusions" (as in "operative world view"), etc. Maybe asking her to
tell you however much she feels able about it--e.g. why she does not
want to tell you? Embarrassed, afraid you would judge, or feels
guilty, or painful to talk about; or ...? Maybe asking what's the most
difficult thing *about* those issues? (Betrayal? Confusion? Grief?
??) Something that lets her talk about the *meaning* of it, and hints
at patterns thru her life, without having to go into the "sordid
details"?

I wonder what things she *worries* about--why the disconnect between
what you call deep depression, and she calls "fine"? Haughty plus
desperate, sounds like fear of something--what? (I always ask re
childhood, and look for whether or where things changed... Was she a
haughty, fearful, controlling *child*? Why? Sometimes people will
relax and talk more freely about the past, other people, and their
childhood, than they are able to about current issues.) Have you got
an understanding about what she's fearful of?

Anything here? Stomach; APPETITE; CONSTANT (p, 28, 2-2) (28) :
bacch-a., bamb-a., bov., calc-p., cand-a., cocc., corv-c., fl-ac.,
gran., haliae-lc., IOD., Kali-bi., kali-p., kali-s., lac-h., lat-h.,
Meny., Merc., musca-d., myric., Nat-c., Nat-m., plut-n., psil., rat.,
ros-ca-a., tab., tax.

Or Mind; EAT, EATING; AMEL. (m, 47, 4-20) (47) : agar., aids, am-c.,
am-m., anac., apis, aq-mar., aur., Bell., Calc-f., caust., cic., clem.,
dicha., enal-c., fago., germ., gink., goss., Graph., hippo-k., ignis,
Iod., jug-r., kali-bi., kola., lac-cam., lach., lamp-c., mag-m.,
medus., Mez., musa, Nat-c., nat-s., nelu., petr., Phos., phyt.,
plut-n., rhus-t., Sac-alb., sep., sil., sulph., Tarent., thea.

Shannon

[J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN]

Did you look for any agg symptoms ? Should not this sx assume
significance only when it brings a mini crisis like picture ? Like all
gone, or at least weakness or even a craving.

In a case, I found a sx for fat desire. But it took me a long time to
understand the connection between the stomach sx and a cold and cough
persisting for seven years in my son. The connecting symptom was a
mapped tongue. Allopathic sites maintained it was asymptomatic and
harmless.

Even Homeopathic sites gave no info. Some thought it as a psoriasis of
tongue.

Only a visit to an ayurvedic site connected the liver and tongue and the
cold and the resultant cough. The ayurvedic physician removed all
fried items and baked items from the food menu plus lemon and grapes for
sometime. That was great help.

V
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