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BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:28 pm
by Vera Resnick
Does anyone out there know - could blood pressure and cholesterol medications taken late afternoon/early evening cause sleep disturbances? I'll be getting the exact names of the meds on Wednesday.
Also the px was told by his doc to take them at that time because they would be more effective - any knowledge about this?
Thanks,
Vera
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Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:36 pm
by d_rona2000
Vera,
Cholesterol meds in particular cause a drastic deficiency in
nutrients associated with brain function. So not only do they cause
liver problems - but they also cause severe 'disfunction' issues -
usually treated by more medications. I don't have my reference book
with me - but definately check into the nutrients depleted by the
cholesterol medication.
Donna
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disturbances?
they would
Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:50 pm
by Sue Boyle
Hi Vera,
Statins are generally recommended to be taken at bedtime but I bet they can disturb sleep in some folks. BP meds are generally two to three times a day and mostly in the morning to control things while you up and active.
If you get the names I can look in A PDR for side effects on each for you.
Sue
Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:40 am
by Sheri Nakken
Cholesterol meds are a HUGE lie and cause MUCH harm
See my webpages
http://www.wellwithin1.com/cholesterol.htm
BP meds can have many side effects too
sheri
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Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:23 am
by CLBernat
Statins (for high cholesterol) are more effective when taken in the evening after the last meal of the day. The action on the liver is more pronounced. Not usually associated with sleep disturbance but they do have side effects associated with muscle pain and weakness. This could be at a sub-clinical level and cause enough discomfort that sleep is disturbed. If patient is having sleep disturbances, perhaps the psycological issues associated with the causation of the high BP could be part of the picture. But yes, the statins could be causing enough discomfort to disturb sleep.
Dr. Carol Bernat
Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:02 pm
by HomeoDidact
Dear Sheri,
What will you advice a person of 75 years old who asks you: I have a very high cholestrol level -- what can I do?
Thanks
Rafy
Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:47 pm
by Sheri Nakken
Again see my webpages for the truth on statins -
http://www.wellwithin1.com/cholesterol.htm
the whole idea is defective - the whole idea of cholesterol being the
problem is defective
and the drugs are very very toxic and certainly not necessary
Ssheri
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Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:52 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 06:02 AM 1/12/2009, you wrote:
First I would share the information that I have with that person to show the lies that have been developed to sell the idea that cholesterol numbers mean anything and the information on the dangers of statins - another drug developed to make money.
Then would suggest homeopathic treatment for that patient as well as some other testing that I do called RBTI which looks at body chemistry and total body salts (which is the source of the problem that results in high cholesterol). An increase in water consumption as well as working with calciums (the right calciums for the body chemistry) is what is called for also.
High total body salts is what contributes to tears in the artery walls and cholesterol is produced to go to those tears to repair them. Cholesterol is just trying to do its job - its the reasons for the tears that needs to be addressed and homeopathically, of course, that is working with the total symptom picture as well as water needs and dietary assistance
Sheri
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Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:44 pm
by Vera Resnick
Thanks for all responses - makes me feel my hunch may have some substance. I'll be getting the names of the drugs on Wednesday and will check for side-effects then.
I find it's really difficult when conventional docs have prescribed meds that are clearly problematic for the patient. In some cases I've tried opening up a direct channel of communication with the prescribing doc, or having the px present the issue, but the docs are rarely responsive, especially in cases of "classic" long term meds like BP and Cholesterol, and not often willing to monitor. I don't have the mandate to take a patient off a conventional drug and risk being sued if I do so.
In addition, the stress a patient can experience when his homeopath is saying one thing and his conventional doc is saying another can also harm his health and result in confused reactions to remedies that can muddy the case. Not to mention his increase in BP!
Seems that integrative practice is a good way to go, working alongside an MD (damage control?).
Vera
Re: BP and cholesterol meds
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:43 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 03:44 PM 1/12/2009, you wrote:
Well, just give my webpage and let them decide for themselves. People have to educate themselves now-a-days.
I have never had a problem sharing information and then letting them decide.
If they don't know there is another side, then they will continue to be injured
Well, not sure about that. Kind of hard to integrate allopathy - working against symptoms and homeopathy - working with symptoms.
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