Have just been speaking to someone who is 4 months pregnant and she was telling she has been told not to eat nuts in case it gets through to the baby and makes the baby allergic . IMO what a load of rubbish! Does anyone out there know if there is any truth to this?
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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The old wisdom was to avoid anything that might have a particular fungus during pregnancy. I'm not near my library - so I can't look up the specifics. I believe peanuts (not a nut but rather a legume) were at the top of the list for potential contamination problems. I seem to recall that one other true nut was also frequently suspect but am sorry I can't provide the details.
What you describe sounds very much like a distortion (put into modern allergy fear terminology) of that older concept.
What you describe sounds very much like a distortion (put into modern allergy fear terminology) of that older concept.
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I have no evidence for that this is the cause, but peanut oil is one of the substances that makes up vaccines.
Inject it into the body at such an early age and it could cause sensitivity.
Regards
Soroush
Inject it into the body at such an early age and it could cause sensitivity.
Regards
Soroush
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Thanks Soroush I didn't know about a connection between vaccines and peanuts.
However it would hardly be injection if it is nutrients through the umbilicus!!
Re what DCR wrote about peanuts and fungus - I did say well don't eat peanuts and she was told all nuts. As I said I think it is ridiculous!!
Rochelle
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EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
However it would hardly be injection if it is nutrients through the umbilicus!!
Re what DCR wrote about peanuts and fungus - I did say well don't eat peanuts and she was told all nuts. As I said I think it is ridiculous!!Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
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Hi Rochelle,
I'm not sure how ridiculous it is - nut allergies are becoming more
common, and not just peanuts which might be linked to a cross
reaction to Soy, another legume which we have a lot more of now. True
nuts seem to be growing into the reputation. I have heard of a mother
indulging cravings for a particular food (not nuts) during pregnancy
and having a child who can't stand or reacting to the same food
later.
Avoiding exposure to certain foods inside a certain time frame, and
having omega 3's and healthy bowel bacteriea does seem to be linked
to having a child with fewer allergies/sensitivities.
I'd probably suggest that as well as avoiding certain things, even
more importantly, she can also be proactive and seek out foods and
supplements which are important for a healthier baby. That promotes
an attitude of health and confidence rather than an atmosphere of
fear and avoidance.
Gail.
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and peanuts.
umbilicus!! Re what DCR wrote about peanuts and fungus - I did
say well don't eat peanuts and she was told all nuts. As I said I
think it is ridiculous!!
one of the substances that makes up vaccines.
sensitivity.
Behalf Of rochelle
she was telling she has been told not to eat nuts in case it gets
through to the baby and makes the baby allergic . IMO what a load of
rubbish! Does anyone out there know if there is any truth to this?
I'm not sure how ridiculous it is - nut allergies are becoming more
common, and not just peanuts which might be linked to a cross
reaction to Soy, another legume which we have a lot more of now. True
nuts seem to be growing into the reputation. I have heard of a mother
indulging cravings for a particular food (not nuts) during pregnancy
and having a child who can't stand or reacting to the same food
later.
Avoiding exposure to certain foods inside a certain time frame, and
having omega 3's and healthy bowel bacteriea does seem to be linked
to having a child with fewer allergies/sensitivities.
I'd probably suggest that as well as avoiding certain things, even
more importantly, she can also be proactive and seek out foods and
supplements which are important for a healthier baby. That promotes
an attitude of health and confidence rather than an atmosphere of
fear and avoidance.
Gail.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "rochelle"
wrote:
and peanuts.
umbilicus!!
Re what DCR wrote about peanuts and fungus - I did say well don't eat peanuts and she was told all nuts. As I said I
think it is ridiculous!!
one of the substances that makes up vaccines.
sensitivity.
Behalf Of rochelle
she was telling she has been told not to eat nuts in case it gets
through to the baby and makes the baby allergic . IMO what a load of
rubbish! Does anyone out there know if there is any truth to this?
Re: Nuts - off topic
Hi Gail,
Thanks for this. Future mum was asking me what she could healthily eat when she is hungry between meals and that is how we got onto this conversation as I answered nuts!! I have suggested fruit now!! She wanted to know if she could have an UltraLife Shake as it is full of nutritious things and no junk. I suggested not because the main ingredient is soya protein and that these contain iso flavones which are plant hormones which may affect her hormones.
What do you think about the suggestion that if mums avoid their offspring eating nuts until they are age 5 or so - it will be a new food and at this stage they may be allergic to it because they have not been brought up with it during childhood?
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Thanks for this. Future mum was asking me what she could healthily eat when she is hungry between meals and that is how we got onto this conversation as I answered nuts!! I have suggested fruit now!! She wanted to know if she could have an UltraLife Shake as it is full of nutritious things and no junk. I suggested not because the main ingredient is soya protein and that these contain iso flavones which are plant hormones which may affect her hormones.
What do you think about the suggestion that if mums avoid their offspring eating nuts until they are age 5 or so - it will be a new food and at this stage they may be allergic to it because they have not been brought up with it during childhood?
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Re: Nuts - off topic
Rochelle,
I know this is offtopic to this list - so this will be my last post - but in terms of snacks for a future mum, please consider suggesting a broad range of fruits, vegies, protein, etc. Many will not get the satisfaction with fruits - causing a tendency to eat too much - then you have the other issues to worry about. While I usually suggest fresh fruits - this is one case where dried fruits (prunes and apricots for example) may give more 'bang for the buck'. They give more 'chewing' time (which helps with the hunger mechanism), and are great for nutrition and fiber.
Concerning the 'shakes' - depending on her current health status - once in a while they are useful in giving diversity (on the order of once a week). I agree the soy base is of concern if someone is using them too frequently - or as regular meal replacements. NOTE: In most of the available 'shake' powders, the 'added supplements' come from synthetic sources - so those I would avoid entirely.
I know this is offtopic to this list - so this will be my last post - but in terms of snacks for a future mum, please consider suggesting a broad range of fruits, vegies, protein, etc. Many will not get the satisfaction with fruits - causing a tendency to eat too much - then you have the other issues to worry about. While I usually suggest fresh fruits - this is one case where dried fruits (prunes and apricots for example) may give more 'bang for the buck'. They give more 'chewing' time (which helps with the hunger mechanism), and are great for nutrition and fiber.
Concerning the 'shakes' - depending on her current health status - once in a while they are useful in giving diversity (on the order of once a week). I agree the soy base is of concern if someone is using them too frequently - or as regular meal replacements. NOTE: In most of the available 'shake' powders, the 'added supplements' come from synthetic sources - so those I would avoid entirely.
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Thanks again as I never thought of dried fruit and I will tell her to check that what she buys has no preservatives like sulphur dioxide - as you can buy them without!! The UltraLife range is synthetic free, suitable for veggie, diabetics (contains fructose) but I am not happy with the soy despite it being Non GM!! It would additional to meals not meal replacement.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
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Re: Nuts - off topic
Just a thought on this Rachelle.
If she has a craving for nuts then usually there is a demand for it by the body.
Also some nuts are infected with aflatoxin - so any one - especially pregnant should be careful of it.
Regards
Soroush
If she has a craving for nuts then usually there is a demand for it by the body.
Also some nuts are infected with aflatoxin - so any one - especially pregnant should be careful of it.
Regards
Soroush
Re: Nuts - off topic
Hi Rochelle,
I don't know the details on this topic - I know that those who
strongly promote breastfeeding recommend to delay any food
introduction until at least 6 months and then to introduce very
slowly one at a time and it has something to do with the babies
developing immune system. I wonder what the age is when the immune
system has that healthy development where you can relax more about
introducing new foods? - my guess is around 2 or 3.
Then you balance that against that children who live in houses with
pets and less than perfect cleaning, develop healthier immune systems
and are less prone to asthma, and that children who go to daycare
often developed a pretty good resistance to colds - young adults who
go into a daycare or early childhood setting often have to go through
a year of constant colds while their immune system comes up to speed.
If a child is likely to have a nut allergy it is probably a good idea
to avoid nut exposure until there is a window of time when the child
can express what's happening and an adult is around who can take
responsibility. I think the nut thing and the age 5 is about the size
of the windpipe and the possibility of asphyxiation from small
objects. You have to be pretty dedicated to avoid nuts - there aren't
that many packaged foods that can declare 100% guarantee of no
exposure.
If she has been told to avoid peanuts, I wonder why it isn't also
suggested to limit Soy, as you have done. There are Whey protein
drinks and powders as well - but you have to watch the sugar content
in most of those meal in a shake drinks.
Gail
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "rochelle"
wrote:
eat when she is hungry between meals and that is how we got onto this
conversation as I answered nuts!! I have suggested fruit now!! She
wanted to know if she could have an UltraLife Shake as it is full of
nutritious things and no junk. I suggested not because the main
ingredient is soya protein and that these contain iso flavones which
are plant hormones which may affect her hormones.
offspring eating nuts until they are age 5 or so - it will be a new
food and at this stage they may be allergic to it because they have
not been brought up with it during childhood?
True
mother
pregnancy
the
of
I don't know the details on this topic - I know that those who
strongly promote breastfeeding recommend to delay any food
introduction until at least 6 months and then to introduce very
slowly one at a time and it has something to do with the babies
developing immune system. I wonder what the age is when the immune
system has that healthy development where you can relax more about
introducing new foods? - my guess is around 2 or 3.
Then you balance that against that children who live in houses with
pets and less than perfect cleaning, develop healthier immune systems
and are less prone to asthma, and that children who go to daycare
often developed a pretty good resistance to colds - young adults who
go into a daycare or early childhood setting often have to go through
a year of constant colds while their immune system comes up to speed.
If a child is likely to have a nut allergy it is probably a good idea
to avoid nut exposure until there is a window of time when the child
can express what's happening and an adult is around who can take
responsibility. I think the nut thing and the age 5 is about the size
of the windpipe and the possibility of asphyxiation from small
objects. You have to be pretty dedicated to avoid nuts - there aren't
that many packaged foods that can declare 100% guarantee of no
exposure.
If she has been told to avoid peanuts, I wonder why it isn't also
suggested to limit Soy, as you have done. There are Whey protein
drinks and powders as well - but you have to watch the sugar content
in most of those meal in a shake drinks.
Gail
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "rochelle"
wrote:
eat when she is hungry between meals and that is how we got onto this
conversation as I answered nuts!! I have suggested fruit now!! She
wanted to know if she could have an UltraLife Shake as it is full of
nutritious things and no junk. I suggested not because the main
ingredient is soya protein and that these contain iso flavones which
are plant hormones which may affect her hormones.
offspring eating nuts until they are age 5 or so - it will be a new
food and at this stage they may be allergic to it because they have
not been brought up with it during childhood?
True
mother
pregnancy
the
of