Minutus

Dear Sheri (especially)

I have seen charts showing for example the natural fall in common diseases
of children as living conditions and hygiene improved - this showed a
lowering of deaths etc well before the introduction of vaccines such as MMR
and DPT etc.

Please do you know where I can find this pls.

Regards

Soroush

At 03:24 PM 11/7/2007 -0000, you wrote:

There are several sources
Yes it shows disease decline, but more important a decrease in deaths,
which you mention

Note the decrease in both disease rates and death rates, started before the
vaccines

http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs.php

DISEASE RATES
http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs.ph ... _list_item
Measles included in this graph

DEATH RATES
http://www.healthsentinel.com/graphs.ph ... _list_item

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vac ... inefficacy
.html

http://www.geocities.com/harpub/overview.htm
Poliomyelitis incidence paralleling DDT use

Some graphs on the decline of deaths from the diseases BEFORE vaccines were
brought in

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/decline1.html

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/graph.html

http://www.whale.to/a/bystrianyk3.html

http://www.ias.org.nz/ias_brochure.pdf

http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/vacprotect2.html
"Do vaccines protect against diseases at all?" for Australian ones and the
one
(near the end - Summaries) which is a submission to the A.C.T. government -
that has as one of its appendices some US graphs.
http://www.objectivescience.com/article ... ines2a.htm
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web1.html
http://www.vaccination.co.uk/questions/q8.htm
http://www.vaclib.org/intro/present/overview.htm
(for an introduction to vaccination)

http://www.whale.to/m/measles1.html
45 percent of measles deaths associated with low weight and poor nutrition.
"It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa,
South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving
children...They thought they were wiping out measles, but most of those
susceptible to measles died from some other disease that they developed as
a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their immune levels
and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis,
etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from
malnutrition. So there were very few susceptible infants left alive to get
measles. It's one way to get good statistics, kill all those that are
susceptible, which is what they literally did." --Dr Kalokerinos, M.D.

Read Dr. Kalokerinos book, "Every Second Child" for worst case example of
vaccines killing children.
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Try the vaccinations book by Trevor Gunn. I think its called "Mass
Vaccination - A Point in Question"

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diseases
as MMR