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Fran Sheffield
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How Homeopathy Works - (was Fungus what would you do homeopathic)

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Hi everyone (and Irene),

Just a quick post from me. Luise is correct in what she has said. Both are
needed.

Hahnemann teaches that the disease is obliterated by an energetically
stronger remedy by its similarity (read aphorisms on stronger/weaker
diseases and similar/dissimilar diseases) AND THEN as the artificial and
temporary disease created by the remedy wanes and leaves the body, the vital
force rebounds against it also to replace it and restore health (read
aphorisms on primary and secondary actions).

Imagine a car and truck crash as an analogy - a truck (the disease) hits the
car (the body) and dents it. The car cannot do anything about removing the
truck that stops its normal operations. A tow truck (stronger and similar
disease in the form of a remedy) is called to pull away the truck. As this
happens, the car rebounds (the secondary action of the vital force) to help
push the truck away and restore the dent - something it had been trying to
do all along but could not without help (obviously this is where the analogy
breaks down as cars cannot really do this but you get the picture.)

Another partial analogy - a man (vital force and body) is bent double by a
very heavy table (disease) and is ineffectively struggling to lift it off
himself. In the process he is injuring himself further - in this instance,
strained muscles, herniated disc, hernia, etc (the symptoms of our energetic
struggle, although indicating positive efforts by the VF, often damage us
physically). Someone comes along externally and not realising what the
problem is, sits on the table to stop it jiggling and bouncing around
(dissimilar/stronger remedy - ie, suppression by allopathy). Only when a
person comes along and creates more jiggling and movement by helping to lift
the table off the man (the similar/stronger remedy) can the problem be
resolved. As the table is being lifted externally, the man bent double under
it also pushes (rebound/secondary action of the vital force) to help free
himself and finally stand upright (fully restored health). Note that two
things were needed - if only the table was removed, the man would still have
been bent double. He also had to help push and stand upright in his own
strength.

In the treatment of chronic disease we see this process happening partially
and repeatedly - ie, the truck is removed bit by bit and the dent restored
bit by bit, or by repeated rocking movements of the man and his helper to
finally lift the table off him (as in a one, two, three .... effect). In
these instances, it is as if a weakened VF is being exercised like a muscle
by gentle repetitions of the remedy to strengthen it until it is strong
enough to help fully lift the table off and hold balance long-term by
itself.

Only when these concepts (weaker/stronger diseases, similar/dissimilar
remedies, and primary/secondary actions) are understood can we then
correctly understand and interpret the responses to the remedy (similar
aggravations, dissimilar aggravations, accessory symptoms, palliation,
suppression, provings, cure, etc). This is all basic homeopathy taught in
the Organon and during first year in better homeopathic courses. Without
understanding and working with these concepts we are not really doing
homeopathy - we are only prescribing potentised remedies in a hit and miss
affair and producing new theories to explain why they do or do not work. I
have not had much time to post recently - and will not have much time in the
future - but I had wanted to write about some of these basic concepts in the
past, Irene, to explain that some of the models you have proposed do not
incorporate them so there is the potential to miss the best of what
homeopathy has to offer.

Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Information - Education - Treatment)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
The Do No Harm Initiative (Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org


Shannon Nelson
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Re: How Homeopathy Works - (was Fungus what would you do homeopathic)

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Fran,
What a nicely drawn analogy, with the table especially!
But--I'm curious in what way you feel Irene's approach doesn't suit
this? It's probably relevant that the cases and situations she's
described are so extreme; rather as tho your poor guy stuck under the
table were also suffering from, let's say severe burns and dehydration,
plus disoriented from concussion, and once the table is removed he's
still got to get out of the way of an oncoming train. Patient help,
calm discussion and gentle exercise might not be enough to save the
day.
:o/
Cheers,
Shannon


Irene de Villiers
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Re: How Homeopathy Works - (was Fungus what would you do homeopathic)

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Fran Sheffield wrote:

Hi Fran - I think we lost clarity here. I am not sure what Luise
intended by what she said - as I answered directly. Can we perhaps clear
that up first aso we are all on the same page?
Which both?
Sorry - not meaning to be "dense" - just to try to be clear what we are
referring to.
YEs this is not in question. The simillimum is in charge of this healing
activity. The way I use constitutional-type is nothing to do with this
direct disease healing aspect but for background or "environmental"
support if you wish - just as crutches support the "environment" of a
leg that is broken, as it heals.
Perhaps not but if the car is stronger physically - like stronger
chassis for example - it will be better off than if it is a weak car.
Hence the constitutional-type remedy to strengthen the car.

Even a good remedy needs to "land on fertile ground". If the life force
is innately very weak at that point - then your chances of success with
simillimum alone are less than if you can strengthen the ability of the
individual to handle a simillimum remedy without aggravation.

So this is not about needing a stronger remedy energy to oust a strong
disease. That goes without saying. A weak potency remedy will not
overcome a strong disease. But you can START with a weak potency for a
weak life force and gradually build up the life force till it handles a
strong potency that is capable of causing healing.

This process of strengthening life force goes better especially at the
beginning of the illness management if you use a constitutional-type
remedy as additional support.
It is all about ensuring that the life force is not too weak to respond
to what is needed for healing.
My intended point - and I am not sure if it is also yours? - is that the
constitutional-type remedy is very similar to the individual and does
this nicely.
And as I see it, it is the "own strength" that is helped by
constitutional-type remedy.
Are we on the same page perhaps?

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


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