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cbwillis9
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Japanese Knotweed

Post by cbwillis9 »

Japanese Knotweed - has this been potentized, proven?

http://www.cabi-bioscience.org/html/jap ... liance.htm
Carol


Roger B
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Roger B »

Dear Ya'all,

Below is a link to a very rigorous study about some benefits (not all of the benefits by any means) of Polygonum Cuspidatum (japanese knotweed). Japanese knotweed may be growing in your backyard. In America it is an invasive weed and many consider it to be a major nuisance. I consider it to be a gift from God.

http://www.academicjournals.org/article ... t%20al.pdf

There many articles like this one about japanese knotweed, all good. The reason that you may not have heard about it is that NO ONE can make any money off of it. There are people selling it on the internet. One guy sells it for $17 per pound. That sounds like a lot, but trust me, that will last for (Roger whips out his calculator) probably 41 days. But you will save money by not buying other supplemental pills that aren't assimilated very well anyway.

One article mentioned that it is traditionally used in China for general health. It is one of those "forgotten" foods that TCM says are forgotten because it doesn't taste good (and now won't make any money for businesses). My wife and I love it. It contains the highest level of resveratrol of any source known. It supposedly tastes like rhubarb; but since I don't know what rhubarb tastes like, I wouldn't know.

If you are lucky, you might find it growing wild near your house. It is definitely worth a look/see.

Sincerely,
Roger Bird


Diane
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Diane »

Roger,

I don't know whether you've had the opportunity to eat the young, hollow shoots that come up in the spring. They greatly resemble asparagus shoots, but have a bit of a red hue on the tips & its fluid. I remember it being considered high in oxalic acid, so those with kidney issues might want to be careful about eating this one. Here's a recipe from Green Deane where it's used in a bread recipe:

Japanese Knotweed: Dreadable Edible | Eat The Weeds and other things, too


Japanese Knotweed: Dreadable Edible | Eat The Weeds an...
Japanese Knotweed in Fall Flower Japanese Knotweed gets no respect. Nearly everywhere it grows it’s listed as a prolific, noxious, invasive, dangerous bad-for-the...
View on www.eattheweeds.com
Preview by Yahoo

I've eaten them after lightly boiling or steaming, and have even made a very tasty, tart jam out of the early shoots. Have used the leaves & roots medicinally. If I remember correctly, it's very useful for Lyme Dz, cardiovascular issues, is anti-mutagenic, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anti-oxidant, an immune modulator and inhibits platelet aggregation.

It is also one of the most invasive plants around, so if one wants to start some, you might want to make darned sure it's planted in a fortress-like container or you may live to regret it. The roots go deep and travel far!

Diana
Dear Ya'all,

Below is a link to a very rigorous study about some benefits (not all of the benefits by any means) of Polygonum Cuspidatum (japanese knotweed). Japanese knotweed may be growing in your backyard. In America it is an invasive weed and many consider it to be a major nuisance. I consider it to be a gift from God.

http://www.academicjournals.org/article ... t%20al.pdf

There many articles like this one about japanese knotweed, all good. The reason that you may not have heard about it is that NO ONE can make any money off of it. There are people selling it on the internet. One guy sells it for $17 per pound. That sounds like a lot, but trust me, that will last for (Roger whips out his calculator) probably 41 days. But you will save money by not buying other supplemental pills that aren't assimilated very well anyway.

One article mentioned that it is traditionally used in China for general health. It is one of those "forgotten" foods that TCM says are forgotten because it doesn't taste good (and now won't make any money for businesses). My wife and I love it. It contains the highest level of resveratrol of any source known. It supposedly tastes like rhubarb; but since I don't know what rhubarb tastes like, I wouldn't know.

If you are lucky, you might find it growing wild near your house. It is definitely worth a look/see.

Sincerely,
Roger Bird


Vicki Satta
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Vicki Satta »

Diana

Cool... you know them. I'm looking around Denver. Do you have access to them? If yes, when do they seed and could you get me some seeds? I want to grow on my balcony!!!

Thank you!
Vicki

Japanese Knotweed: Dreadable Edible | Eat The Weeds an...
Japanese Knotweed in Fall Flower Japanese Knotweed gets no respect. Nearly everywhere it grows it’s listed as a prolific, noxious, invasive, dangerous bad-for-the...
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Dale Moss
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Dale Moss »

Thanks to Hurricane Irene, we have more than we can ever use. Roger, you're welcome to come here and dig it up. Not the most effective way of keeping it under control, but persistence has always worked better for me than chemicals.
Peace,
Dale


John R. Benneth
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by John R. Benneth »

A Polygonum is available in potency from Remedia . . http://www.remedia-homeopathy.com/en/ho ... 03482.html
but its acre, or persica, not cuspidatum; nickname Hydropiper.
In German, Wasserpfeffer.
The American natives are called Knotweed or Smartweed.
The Polygonums appear to all be rubifacients, astringent, diuretic. Their effects in 0 sound like Ruta.
The Remedia version apparently is taken from the European variety
It would be nice to know more about their action.
Is there a proving on a Polygonum?
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healthinfo6
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by healthinfo6 »

Not heard of it?
Japanese Knotweed is 2nd major source of Resveratrol, the purported anti-aging, French red wine paradox compound that turns on the SIRT1 gene, providing same effect seen as doing a CR diet, severe calorie restriction leads to longer life and less aging diseases seen in mice.
Glaxo Smith Kline big pharma bought the startup company, Sirtris in Cambridge, MA doing all the research to make a pharmaceutical anti-aging drug synthetic but various problems ensued. Seems dogs in study died.
The idea was take a pill and live longer without disease.
There's a fascinating book, The Youth Pill, describing the events behind all of this, how various studies disputed each other, politics, $$$, longevity research
http://www.davidstipp.com
By taking Japanese knotweed you may be extending your life and/or preventing aging diseases, decease inflammation, ...
Besides resveratrol, another form sold is pterostilbene, a related compound.
I've tried various OTC forms of Resveratrol and Pterostilbene as may help insulin resistance, diabetes, but it can have odd effects and I didn't feel well each time I took it. Possibly my SIRT1 gene doesn't like to be touched! ;)
http://examine.com/supplements/Japanese+Knotweed/ lots of into on what it may be doing, various conditions it seems to help, etc.
http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2013/03/1 ... 0m-buyout/
https://www.google.com/search?q=glaxo+resveratrol
There won't be any fountain of youth pharma drug coming soon that could affect availability of the supplement.
Susan


Roger B
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Roger B »

Dear Diana,

I was thinking a lot last night long before I got this email, so I am responding mostly to my thoughts of last night rather than you.

ALL plants are loaded with "anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anti-oxidant" properties. Otherwise, they would cease to exist in a very short period of time. They ALL have evolved to have those characteristics; otherwise oxygen and bacteria and viruses would have destroyed them. When we eat them, we benefit from their struggle to survive.

It is sort of pointless to say that such-and-such plant has anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-oxidant properties. They ALL do. Otherwise they would die. But, some plants have evolved additional survival strategies that include being poisonous and such, so I guess we just don't call them anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-oxidant. But, trust me, that ALL have those qualities.

All of the other goodies that you listed: "cardiovascular issues, anti-mutagenic, an immune modulator and inhibits platelet aggregation" are either natural results of the characteristics above that are the natural result of evolution, or else gifts from God. I prefer the later explanation. I don't see how plant evolution can benefit immune modulation in human beings. Any ideas?

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 16:11:37 +0000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Japanese Knotweed
Roger,

I don't know whether you've had the opportunity to eat the young, hollow shoots that come up in the spring. They greatly resemble asparagus shoots, but have a bit of a red hue on the tips & its fluid. I remember it being considered high in oxalic acid, so those with kidney issues might want to be careful about eating this one. Here's a recipe from Green Deane where it's used in a bread recipe:

Japanese Knotweed: Dreadable Edible | Eat The Weeds and other things, too


Japanese Knotweed: Dreadable Edible | Eat The Weeds an...
Japanese Knotweed in Fall Flower Japanese Knotweed gets no respect. Nearly everywhere it grows it’s listed as a prolific, noxious, invasive, dangerous bad-for-the...
View on www.eattheweeds.com
Preview by Yahoo

I've eaten them after lightly boiling or steaming, and have even made a very tasty, tart jam out of the early shoots. Have used the leaves & roots medicinally. If I remember correctly, it's very useful for Lyme Dz, cardiovascular issues, is anti-mutagenic, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anti-oxidant, an immune modulator and inhibits platelet aggregation.

It is also one of the most invasive plants around, so if one wants to start some, you might want to make darned sure it's planted in a fortress-like container or you may live to regret it. The roots go deep and travel far!

Diana


Diane
Posts: 47
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:47 pm

Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Diane »

Roger,

I do not understand the incompleteness of your email about me this morning, subject Knotweed. If it is/was going to be in any way as harsh and hurtful as yours was to my first response to your Knotweed post yesterday, I can well do without the scorpion's sting.

You are most fortunate, and I am grateful to know, you may be in possession of far greater health, and have far more knowledge than I, of many things. Perhaps you would be kind enough to consider the intent and way within which you use your words

No one likes or benefits from being minimized, insulted or dismissed. Please remember there are those of us literally hanging on by a mere thread. I would like not to think you might revel in severing it.

Thank you,

Diana


Roger B
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Re: Japanese Knotweed

Post by Roger B »

The problem is probably the excessive reductionism that our society and especially Big Pharma seems to be addicted to. I just drink the tea. It is way more assimilatable, especially if you hold it in your mouth for as long as possible without being rude. This is called "buccal" assimilation, through the lining of the mouth. I will also be drinking hibiscus tea on a regular basis. And I will be doing liposomal vitamin C. And I am re-focusing my diet to be more anti-oxidant dense.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 21:56:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Japanese Knotweed
Not heard of it?
Japanese Knotweed is 2nd major source of Resveratrol, the purported anti-aging, French red wine paradox compound that turns on the SIRT1 gene, providing same effect seen as doing a CR diet, severe calorie restriction leads to longer life and less aging diseases seen in mice.
Glaxo Smith Kline big pharma bought the startup company, Sirtris in Cambridge, MA doing all the research to make a pharmaceutical anti-aging drug synthetic but various problems ensued. Seems dogs in study died.
The idea was take a pill and live longer without disease.
There's a fascinating book, The Youth Pill, describing the events behind all of this, how various studies disputed each other, politics, $$$, longevity research
http://www.davidstipp.com
By taking Japanese knotweed you may be extending your life and/or preventing aging diseases, decease inflammation, ...
Besides resveratrol, another form sold is pterostilbene, a related compound.
I've tried various OTC forms of Resveratrol and Pterostilbene as may help insulin resistance, diabetes, but it can have odd effects and I didn't feel well each time I took it. Possibly my SIRT1 gene doesn't like to be touched! ;)
http://examine.com/supplements/Japanese+Knotweed/ lots of into on what it may be doing, various conditions it seems to help, etc.
http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2013/03/1 ... 0m-buyout/
https://www.google.com/search?q=glaxo+resveratrol
There won't be any fountain of youth pharma drug coming soon that could affect availability of the supplement.
Susan


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