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prestonfoell
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Re: Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by prestonfoell »

Dear Members,

The thread on ferns and latest posting on F. Vermuleuns FUNGI book
sparked this observation/question: Why isn't there more, much more,
books, literature, etc. on actual case-taking skills? The art of
homeopathy?

I have found Brian Kaplans 'Homeopathic Conversation' to address this,
but have found little else. Is it a case that these skills are not
addressed more in various media (books, DVDS, etc.) and only at schools?
Which, I have heard many students speak of the inadequate training at
schools....

Seems to be a big hole that would be very helpful to address. Case
management, from what I hear, was another area that had not been
addressed in depth, too.

Any ideas?
Respectfully,

Preston Foell


Luise Kunkle
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Re: Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by Luise Kunkle »

Hi Preston,

There is quite a bit on that.

I have 3 little booklet here myself, all published by Jain.

Dunham: Ho Wo Case Taking

Pierre Schmidt: The Art of Case Taking

Nash: How to Take a Case

Hahnemann in his Organon also gives quite detailed instructions.

Regards

Luise
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Re: Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Probably because it is very individual; every school indicates what to look for, but it is the how to that is almost impossible to teach as it depends upon our own idiosyncrasies, problems, views, philosophies and comfort with issues.
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mcgonigle_john
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Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by mcgonigle_john »

Preston,

I agree, there is a paucity of detailed "how to" on this. And that's
a shame. The thing is, it is a very difficult and elaborate skill
and it can only be sought in ones' love and curiosity for and about
the patient, and only grow w/ practice and practice. This experience
is what is missing in many schools; say what you will about
conventional medicine and it's therapeutics, those trained in such
schools see hundreds and hundreds of patients. I think there is also
a shying away from this difficult art by the community at large
because it is so hard to teach, and easier and more immediately
stimulating to teach complex applications of kingdoms, bicker about
combos vs single doses, Organon eds. 4 vs 5 vs 6 etc (all of which
concerns certainly have their place and importance, don't get me
wrong). The emphasis seems on getting some data and then REALLY
GOING TO WORK crunching it up in all sorts of elegant ways. Of
course, the getting of the data/facts/information is the central
pivot of the whole enterprise...

That being said, there are more good books on the subject of case
taking/being the impartial observer (as SH wrote, and sums it up
completely as our ideal). Edward Whitmont - homeopath and Jungian -
has some excellent essays. Likewise, EW Hubbard, Roberts and TD
Paschero. Margerie Blackie has good things to say on observation
etc. I would second what Louise said about passages in the Organon.
If you're so inclined, a great deal can be gleaned from Sankarans
latest work (Sensations and such) but it's pretty esoteric stuff and
often one has to read btwn the lines to suss out the art, rather
than see it as brilliant magic. I would also say that noone could
fail to benefit from familiarity w/ the works of the psych people,
the Jungs and Freuds and Sullivans and Adlers and von Franz's.
Finally - as if there's a finally to such an ambitious thing, the
truly seeeing of another person! - there is a great deal of interest
in application of narrative theories to patients and their illnesses
all over the allopathic spectrum; in what patients tell of
themselves lies their cure(s), and what they and we tell together
are stories.
John McGonigle, MD
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Case taking and management both would be really hard to learn entirely
from books. As would, even more so, recognizing remedies in people.
Preston, you say you've heard people complaining about inadequacy of
training the in schools. For the most part I'm sure this is simply
because the time is short, and the subject (homeopathy) is huge!! I
know I have often wished that my three-year, part-time course has been
more years, and full-time!!!! But do I therefore with I had just stuck
to books and self-study instead? Oh no, most emphatically not!!!!!

Are you still considering taking classwork? It's just absolutely
worlds better (IMHO) than trying to go it alone, IF you are serious.
There will be lots and lots of room, and need, for reading on your own
anyway; homeopathy is a lifetime study. But if you are serious, then
you really need teachers--if you are lucky enough to have a good,
devoted, personal mentor, then perhaps that's good enough; but if not,
then formal coursework would be a huge boon.

It is a big commitment (at least 3 or 4 years if you want to cover
chronic prescribing), but very well worth it, I would say.
Shannon


Marco Franzreb
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Re: Case Taking skills: Seems that this subject gets little attention...any ideas?

Post by Marco Franzreb »

There is a book written by R.P. Patel called the art of case taking and Practical Repertorization in homeopathy
Regards
Marco

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