provings

[Joy Lucas]

For those of you interested in new provings the Northwest College of
Homeopathy (in the UK) has published its provings of TUNGSTEN; THIOSINAMINE
and SELENITE. You can visit their site on nwch.co.uk and order the copies.
Best wishes, Joy Lucas

[Rosemary Hyde]

Thanks for the info, Joy. For others not familiar with the site, they also
have some good, and not widely known, homeopathic links.

Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.

[Charlotte Gilruth]

LISA again:
"it is totality it is the disposition of the person."
-----------
So, you are saying that you are prescribing based upon the disposition-
which you term "totality" because it run through the whole of the persons
case?"
There is nothing pathological in desire for enlightenment (rather the
reverse.)
"Desire for light" remains the opposite of photophobia, for 99.9% of
homeopaths.
Suggest you try rubrics which actually reflect quasi-pathological (what
needs to be cured?) symptoms instead of free-allegorization of rubrics
designed to represent (by mental contortions) the "disposition of the
person." -As I understand it, this is precisely the aspect of
(neo)"so-called-classical" homeopathy which Sehgal objects to; that of not
seeing what is to be cured, and instead focussing on non-pathological
generalities of the person.

Sehgal's disgust for that type of treatment of "remedy picture"
"constitution" is what drove him to formulate his "method" isn't it?

(from Dave Hartley)

Hi Dave,
Have you participated in provings? It is an amazing experience to see that
a complete change of energy state is created, with a new set of feelings,
emotions, impulses, as well as specific pathological symptoms. From the
dramatic first-hand experience of provings, I've come to understand I'm
looking for a remedy that has caused the same STATE in provings that I am
trying to match for the STATE of my client. Even if a particular quality
caused by the proving substance is not pathologicl or makes no rational
sense, (for instance the desire to do housepointing came up repeatedly in a
Rubidium proving) if these strange state symptoms match the person on a core
level, that remedy will clear up many symptoms on more superficial levels
My prescription rate is tremendously more accurate since I've had this
understanding, and am not just looking for simply matching one symptom list
to another.

I'll take this opportunity again to invite everyone to participate in a
proving that's being conducted now for Nuala Eising, Irish homeopath.
Contact me privately for further information.

Warm wishes,
Charlotte

Charlotte Gilruth

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Piet Guijt]

Yes Charlotte,

Very good reply, this were it is all about!

Piet

[Dave Hartley]

Hi Charlotte,

Yeah, I participated in one proving- a good experience for me..

There will always be quite a few viewpoints on "the state" of a particular
remedy, for the simple reason that NO INDIVIDUAL will perceive nor express
"the state" exactly as another.. though we do need to attempt to know each
remedy as part of "the living materia medica" (as I've heard it
expressed) -I find that for myself, I don't really feel that I have a good
feel for a remedy until I research it for a case (& better yet, where it is
actually the one used in a case.)

Many MM's exist; reading a number of them will help us to understand the
idealistic "state" - "of the remedy" (itself) - and will reveal
"Strange/Rare/Peculiar" (SRP) or "Strange/Exceptional/Unusual/Odd" (SEUO)
symptoms ... as discussed in Organon, Aph 153:

"In the search for a homoeopathically specific remedy, that is, in the
comparison of the complex of the natural disease's signs with the symptoms
sets of the available medicines (in order to find among them an artificial
disease potence that corresponds in similarity to the malady to be cure)
the more STRIKING, EXCEPTIONAL, UNUSUAL, AND ODD (Characteristic) signs and
symptoms of the disease case are to especially and almost solely kept in
view. THESE ABOVE ALL, MUST CORRESPOND TO VERY SIMILAR ONES IN THE
SYMPTOMS SET OF THE MEDICINES SOUGHT if it is to be the most fitting one
for cure. The more common and indeterminate symptoms (lack of appetite,
headache, lassitude, restless sleep, discomfort, etc.) are the be seen with
almost every disease and medicine and thus deserve little attention unless
they are more closely characterized."
Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Tri-Cities Computer (TN) |Asheville Computer (NC)
423-952-0983 or 877-245-3362 |(828)285-0240
$9.95 internet http://www.federalisp.com/?page=ispsignup

[VR VR]

Hi all,
Has anyone ever done a homeopathic proving using placebo? Just curious.
Vera

---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Joy Lucas]

Dear All, I am devising a big project for next year around provings.
These will not be new remedies but new provings of remedies that appear
in our materia medicas/reps but have either had no proving or only a
small or partial proving.

I have compiled a list or rx that I will be dealing with but I would
like to have contact from those of you who would either like to be one
of the provers or a supervisor who will supervise a maximum of 4
provers each. If the supervisors can bring together a number of people
who would like to be provers they could be long term supervisors for
all the rx if they wish.

As each remedy is proved I will be collating the information and either
publishing it on one of the hom lists, my website or blog or even in
book form.

If you would like to discuss this with me please contact me privately
at my email address. Many thanks and best wishes, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com

[muthu kumar]

Good effort Joy-
I wish I could participate but at this point I will not be at least
to be a prover or a supervisor. But I can help you to collate the
information if you need help. Is there a database or something like a
database for collecting this information. I can create one in any
database server and also maintain it if you want,Is there any design
for a database for homoepathic provings and is it published any
where?

My best wishes for your effort
inutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
provings.
appear
a
would
one
people
for
either
in
privately

[Joy Lucas]

Goody goody But can I pleeease try to persuade you to be a prover
or a supervisor as well as helping to collate. Will you email me
privately so we can discuss (for some reason your email address isn't
on this post).

Anyone else? This will be a long and detailed project and a big service
to homeopathy but it is totally dependent on having a substantial
number of provers. I will be trying the hard sell on a few people but I
was really hoping for more response from you lovely people out there


Feel free to email me with any questions you might have.

Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[muthu kumar]

Hi Joy-
I am involved in another remedy research so I cannot participate as
a prover. I do not have the time, patience and probably ability for
being a supervisor. Otherwise I would have volunteered.
If you have enough people to make it worthwhile please let me know,
But from the very lukewarm response thru this discussion group, I
guess you might have some difficulty in garnering enough
participants.
My email is hahnemannian2002@yahoo.com. Many people have been
sending emails to me - so I think there must be a spot somewhere my
email can be seen.

Good luck

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
prover
isn't
service
but I
there
least
the
like a
any
design