Homeopathic Vet in Chicago area?

[Kunzang Dechen]

I am looking for a good vet in the chicago area
(preferably w/in 100 mile radius), either homeopathic
or oriental medicine or both.

Patient is cat with cancer, time is short.

Thanks KD
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[Sheri Nakken]

At 07:53 PM 2/1/2007 -0800, you wrote:

http://www.theavh.org/members/AVH_list1.htm
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[Kunzang Dechen]

Thanks Sheri for the pointer to the AVH!

The seem to have changed their link tho, thought you
and anyone else interested might want to know

http://www.avhlist.com/avh_index.php

seems to be the new one.

KD
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[Irene de Villiers]

> http://www.theavh.org/members/AVH_list1.htm

These are veterinarians who have completed 4 or 5 (depending on the year
- it went to 5 in 2006) weekend seminars with the veterinarian Dr
Pitcairn (who has a DVM, no homeopathy qualification per his website).
My personal preference would be for a classical homeopath with
considerably more training, like a D.I.Hom or D.Vet.Hom from a school
of homeopathy (rather than this CVH), especially when the case is a
chronic one of the import of cancer. We really need a lot more of those
however - the problem is that they are like hen's teeth to find at this
point. It would be nice if someone set up a list of those.

Namaste,
IRene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

I wouldn't rule out a good *human* homeopath (I mean a good
homeopath who treats humans rather than animals). Sure they will be
missing some information, may have to investigate to find "what's
normal" for the species; but I know that can be successfully done.

There was a cute case (where?) where horse's owner calls homeopath for
help; h'th sez no, I only treat people. Owner calls back next day, sez
doc, ya gotta help me, I'm having this, that, the other... H'th
prescribes, guy gives it to his horse, and horse is cured.
(Obviously the owner *knew* what was normal for his horse, and knew
what the horse's behaviors meant.)

[Ginny Wilken]

That can work the other way around, too. I know of a vet homeopath who was asked for help by a client, the pet owner. The homeopath said, "well, I can't really treat you, but if you had an animal named (name of the client) that had those symptoms, I'd be happy to advise..."

My chiropractor treats my dog. He's on my "family plan".

ginny
All stunts performed without a net!

[robin9168]

-Irene, saying Dr Pitcairn has no homeopathic qualification is a bit
like saying George Vithoulkas has no qualification which is equally
true but equally meaningless.

PS:
The Peter Gregory Veterinary Homeopathy seminar on Salt Spring Island,
B.C., Canada, 6-8th April 2007.

We are lucky to be able to bring this excellent speaker back to
beautiful Salt Spring despite his
busy schedule. His last visit was a huge success and he is returning
by popular demand.

The course content is as follows:

Emphasis on veterinary case studies and interpreting symptoms in animals
into human rubrics from the Repertory:

- Locomotor diseases
- Behavioural problems
- The treatment of horses.
- Animal remedies - Snakes and sea remedies
- Plant remedies - The Compositae
- Mineral remedies - Natrum salts and the metals

[Irene de Villiers]

robin9168 wrote:

Why do you say that?
I come acrosas the problems caused by the "students" of Pitcairn in my
own practse with horrible regularity.
I am currently working with a case where the Pitcairn "graduate" had
given a chosen remedy (I have no clue how it was chosen but it was a
short consult) three times a day for MONTHS - and every time the client
complained that things were getting much worse for the poor dog - he
told the client that this was to be expected, it was normal to get worse
and develop many symptoms never seen before, (raw, bleeding skin and
complete hair loss among others) that drove the dog mad - literally -
and he increased the potency.
The vet involved is supposedly very well known among the Pitcairn
"graduates". The local Pitcairn graduate also is a supplier of cases my
way.....
Bear in mind that Pitcairn does not practise as a homeopath but as a
vet, and that half of his course (which lasts 4 or 5 weekend seminars
only, depending on the year) is spent talking about how to feed garlic
and alfalfa type food (all toxic to carnivores) and how to use nosodes
for prophylaxis. Where he finds time top even mention what I call
homeopathy, I am not sure - but the cases *I* and have to apologize to
clients about (As they wanted real homeopathy not proving symptoms etc),
see tell me there is no study of how to handle chronic cases - not that
I know how anyone could teach it in 2 or 3 seminars either.

Vithoulkas by contrast IS a homeopath (not a vet for his working hrs)
and has taken the time to understand homeopathy well. In fact his little
book "Homeopathy: medicine of the modern man" is one I recommend to all
my students, as an excellent short but good write-up on what homeopathy
is about as an overview.

Pitcairn has access to courses like BIH's D.Vet.Hom where he COULD have
formalized his training and become proficient BEFORE "tutoring"
veterinarians and calling them certified homeopathic veterinarians. That
clearly did not happen.

This is a clear case of why we need to test the RESULTS of training - in
terms of "ability as a homeopath".

Quoting from Pitcairn's website:
http://www.drpitcairn.com/training/pc_course.html
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"You are invited on an exciting journey to learn this ingenious and
time-tested medical paradigm in the 5-session ANHC Professional Course
in Veterinary Homeopathy."
and
"What you'll learn":
* Conduct an in-depth initial interview and exam.
* Choose the reference books, based on experience, that will best
guide you in choosing prescriptions.Picture of a class.
* Select the best potency and treatment schedules.
* Obtain, administer and store the medicines.
* Interpret patient responses (palliation, suppression or cure), an
eye-opening approach that will help you better understand ALL your cases.
* Decide on follow-up prescriptions.
* Develop case strategies.
* practice tips helpful for homeopathy, such as appropriate ways
to keep records, bill for your time, handle emergencies and make
efficient use of staff, phones, mentors and the internet.
.....When you finish the 5 sessions, you can expect to have the skills
you need to treat and cure cases.
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Can anyone be serious that 5 weekend seminars covering the above will
make a "professional homeopath"????????????????

Not judging by the results and consequences that come MY way!!!

The little dog who was going nuts, is now receiving a properly
repertorized simillimum and is growing her hair back and is a happy dog
again. Not fully healed yet but well on the way.

The talk given by a Pitcairn graduate at a local Metaphysical sociaty
meeting - advised people to feed garlic to dogs (never mind the Heinz
body anemia it causes), and to feed low protein to kidney compromised
dogs - all *allopathic* nonsense with no basis in any knowledge gained
in the past ten years of the dangers of doing either of these things.
And THAT was apparently included in the Pitcairn "homeopathy" course.
So how much time was actually devoted to understanding principles and
learning to repertorize in the 5 seminar sessions I have to wonder?

Sorry - there is no comparison between this approach - and that of
Vithoulkas.

I have very little respect for any "homeopathic veterinarian" these days
- unless they DO have proper credentials - AND they work full time as
a homeopath - a D.Vet.Hom at the very least. CVH (the Pitcairn one) has
no value for me - it is a red flag in my opinion - and to me is a nasty
pimple on a veterinarian rather than a new profession they studied.
Do they know that it is not a proper training in homeopathy?
I doubt it, they are sincere.

The REAL problem as I see it, is that this scheme for turning out
"homeopathic veterinarians" in quantity is misleading the public very
seriously - and is not helped by the great shortage of people with more
significant training such as D.Vet.Hom - there are way too few of the
latter.

Meantime the public is duped and disappointed in the lack of efficacy of
homeopathy - as THEY see it.

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[robin9168]

Irene you have strong views about lots of things. I am not a supporter
or friend of Pitcairn. All Im saying is the fact that he doesnt have
some homeopathic letters after his name is meaningless and shouldnt be
judged according to that. Do you think Sankaran, Sherr, Scolten etc
are teaching stuff they learned at some school somewhere or attribute
what they know to being a member of a registering body?

Aslo, Pitcairn is one of the strictest Hahnemannians in North America
- far too much so for my liking. Ie would never ever recommend daily
doses for weeks and months on end. if a graduate is doing that its
not because Pitcairn didnt go to homeopathy school.

PS My family owned 3 boxers and 2 terriers over an 18 year period.
They were all fed bread in their food daily. They all lived long
healthy lives. I have a catahould leopard dog that is 7 years old and
loves garlic. He has never had to go to a vet.
Homepaths individualise.
Totsiens

I await the onlaught!

[robin9168]

Oh and by the way, Im not advocating it but I have a friend who has
brought up 7 Airdales on a totally vegetarian diet. He believes he is
helping their spiritual evolution. Dogs can be vegetarian but you have
to know what you are doing.

When I come across people being so adamant with their assertions I am
compelled to to try and restore balance with an alternative slant on
things, sorry.