what is the best thing to put on a caustic burn. it is about 6 days old and the scab
is beginning to come loose. the burn was chemical--sodium hydroxide and magnesium
hydroxide were the main ingredients of the product. it burned instantly and left a large
blackened area in about 2 hours. the burn went deep. today
Tanya Marquette
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: caustic burns
sorry for the aborted first post which was incomplete. so here goes again:
what is the best thing to put on a caustic burn. it is located on the inside of the right wrist.
it is about 6 days old and the scab is beginning to come loose. the burn was
chemical--sodium hydroxide and magnesium hydroxide were the main ingredients of
the product. it burned instantly and left a large blackened area in about 2 hours. the burn
went deep. infection and some pus formed under the scab and today the scab pulled
loose enough that the pus could be squeezed out which brought much relief. however,
as the scab continued to loosen this evening, the raw underflesh became exposed.
within the hour very sharp pain shot out from around the wound and radiated 4-6" up the arm.
the pain is also hot and burning in the wound itself.
i had used aloe on it and later calendula. i dont know that the calendula did much good. was
wondering about other rx. dont know if canth would do any good at this point.
mftr's recommendation was to wash with water for 15" however, the burn was not noted till
after 2 hours when it had become necrotic.
Tanya Marquette
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what is the best thing to put on a caustic burn. it is located on the inside of the right wrist.
it is about 6 days old and the scab is beginning to come loose. the burn was
chemical--sodium hydroxide and magnesium hydroxide were the main ingredients of
the product. it burned instantly and left a large blackened area in about 2 hours. the burn
went deep. infection and some pus formed under the scab and today the scab pulled
loose enough that the pus could be squeezed out which brought much relief. however,
as the scab continued to loosen this evening, the raw underflesh became exposed.
within the hour very sharp pain shot out from around the wound and radiated 4-6" up the arm.
the pain is also hot and burning in the wound itself.
i had used aloe on it and later calendula. i dont know that the calendula did much good. was
wondering about other rx. dont know if canth would do any good at this point.
mftr's recommendation was to wash with water for 15" however, the burn was not noted till
after 2 hours when it had become necrotic.
Tanya Marquette
tamarque@earthlink.net
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Re: caustic burns
Hi Tanya,
Does it seem to be healing?
Causticum is what comes to my mind, tho not sure if it covers
"necrotic". If you haven't tried it, tho, might be worth a go?
Shannon
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Does it seem to be healing?
Causticum is what comes to my mind, tho not sure if it covers
"necrotic". If you haven't tried it, tho, might be worth a go?
Shannon
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Re: caustic burns
Hi Tanya!
first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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Peter Boehm
Heilpraktiker, Dipl.-Biol.
Aureliaweg 22
93055 Regensburg
0941 5 999 566
www.peterboehm.de
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Heilpraktiker, Dipl.-Biol.
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93055 Regensburg
0941 5 999 566
www.peterboehm.de
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Re: caustic burns
Did you use Causticum?
You want to keep that burn from getting infected. I would
wash it 2-3 times a day with Calendula MT and pure water.
Perhaps mix Ech. MT into your aloe vera- that you apply after.
A little- it burns. Dress with non-adhesive bandage. You don't
want anything in and you don't want to have to soak stuck
gauze out of the wound. How big is the area affected?
Best Wishes,
Krystina
You want to keep that burn from getting infected. I would
wash it 2-3 times a day with Calendula MT and pure water.
Perhaps mix Ech. MT into your aloe vera- that you apply after.
A little- it burns. Dress with non-adhesive bandage. You don't
want anything in and you don't want to have to soak stuck
gauze out of the wound. How big is the area affected?
Best Wishes,
Krystina
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Re: caustic burns
I am not sure if you have undergone primary aid and bandage , medication or not. As the the burn has come to the second stage the care now is to be taken for cure and avoidance of scar .
Please do not destroy the new epithelium formation by any meas.
Apply a fresh layer of paraffin impregnated gauze, 4 layers of gauze, and a layer of cotten wool and bandage carefully.
then change the dressing every 4 days , unless the would becomes painful, swells or the bandage becomes soaked, for which the dressing should be renewed immedietly. when the wound is healing and epithelialised it can be left exposed, or covered with a dry non-adherent dressing. Here we have choice of calandula ointment,or hypericum ointment, to expedite the process of healing. We can apply both the hypericum ointment to the burned part and calendula oiintment to the edges of the burn. Kalimur 3x will also help in curing process…..You can take hydraustis drops for building the loss of flesh if any.
To avoid any scarring afterwards…….take thyosinaminum 30c one dose per week for 6weeks. If the burn does not get cured in a span of 14 to 18 days please visit a plastic surgeon.
Peter Boehm wrote: Hi Tanya!
first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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Heilpraktiker, Dipl.-Biol.
Aureliaweg 22
93055 Regensburg
0941 5 999 566
www.peterboehm.de
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93055 Regensburg
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Please do not destroy the new epithelium formation by any meas.
Apply a fresh layer of paraffin impregnated gauze, 4 layers of gauze, and a layer of cotten wool and bandage carefully.
then change the dressing every 4 days , unless the would becomes painful, swells or the bandage becomes soaked, for which the dressing should be renewed immedietly. when the wound is healing and epithelialised it can be left exposed, or covered with a dry non-adherent dressing. Here we have choice of calandula ointment,or hypericum ointment, to expedite the process of healing. We can apply both the hypericum ointment to the burned part and calendula oiintment to the edges of the burn. Kalimur 3x will also help in curing process…..You can take hydraustis drops for building the loss of flesh if any.
To avoid any scarring afterwards…….take thyosinaminum 30c one dose per week for 6weeks. If the burn does not get cured in a span of 14 to 18 days please visit a plastic surgeon.
Peter Boehm wrote: Hi Tanya!
first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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Heilpraktiker, Dipl.-Biol.
Aureliaweg 22
93055 Regensburg
0941 5 999 566
www.peterboehm.de
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Re: caustic burns
radha rani wrote:
I prefer acid flouricum 30c and silicia 30c in the caustic burn case. Ofcourse ledumpal, cantharis, etc.can not be avoided. Since the wound is deep and chemical origined. ...Acid flouricum (used even for numbering on glass vessels) is well suited. silica and acid flouricum are good followers.
I am not sure if you have undergone primary aid and bandage , medication or not. As the the burn has come to the second stage the care now is to be taken for cure and avoidance of scar .
Please do not destroy the new epithelium formation by any meas.
Apply a fresh layer of paraffin impregnated gauze, 4 layers of gauze, and a layer of cotten wool and bandage carefully.
then change the dressing every 4 days , unless the would becomes painful, swells or the bandage becomes soaked, for which the dressing should be renewed immedietly. when the wound is healing and epithelialised it can be left exposed, or covered with a dry non-adherent dressing. Here we have choice of calandula ointment,or hypericum ointment, to expedite the process of healing. We can apply both the hypericum ointment to the burned part and calendula oiintment to the edges of the burn. Kalimur 3x will also help in curing process…..You can take hydraustis drops for building the loss of flesh if any.
To avoid any scarring afterwards…….take thyosinaminum 30c one dose per week for 6weeks. If the burn does not get cured in a span of 14 to 18 days please visit a plastic surgeon.
Peter Boehm wrote: Hi Tanya!
first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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Heilpraktiker, Dipl.-Biol.
Aureliaweg 22
93055 Regensburg
0941 5 999 566
www.peterboehm.de
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I prefer acid flouricum 30c and silicia 30c in the caustic burn case. Ofcourse ledumpal, cantharis, etc.can not be avoided. Since the wound is deep and chemical origined. ...Acid flouricum (used even for numbering on glass vessels) is well suited. silica and acid flouricum are good followers.
I am not sure if you have undergone primary aid and bandage , medication or not. As the the burn has come to the second stage the care now is to be taken for cure and avoidance of scar .
Please do not destroy the new epithelium formation by any meas.
Apply a fresh layer of paraffin impregnated gauze, 4 layers of gauze, and a layer of cotten wool and bandage carefully.
then change the dressing every 4 days , unless the would becomes painful, swells or the bandage becomes soaked, for which the dressing should be renewed immedietly. when the wound is healing and epithelialised it can be left exposed, or covered with a dry non-adherent dressing. Here we have choice of calandula ointment,or hypericum ointment, to expedite the process of healing. We can apply both the hypericum ointment to the burned part and calendula oiintment to the edges of the burn. Kalimur 3x will also help in curing process…..You can take hydraustis drops for building the loss of flesh if any.
To avoid any scarring afterwards…….take thyosinaminum 30c one dose per week for 6weeks. If the burn does not get cured in a span of 14 to 18 days please visit a plastic surgeon.
Peter Boehm wrote: Hi Tanya!
first remedy : causticum - really !
cantharis is more for superficial blisters.
Peter
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Aureliaweg 22
93055 Regensburg
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Re: caustic burns
thanks so much everyone for all the information. the spot was about the
size of a quarter
when i discovered it. it was under a latex glove that i was wearing and so
did not notice
the burn till after i finished working. other spots that were burned
healed fairly quickly
with little effort. but this one had been festering for a couple of hours
before i saw it. the
skin had already developed a blackened layer. it was pretty sore for
several days but i
could work with it. it was only when the crust began to shrink it felt
like it was pulling the
surrounding flesh which became red and a bit swollen. after a couple days
of this, the
crust broke loose on one side and i was able to squeeze some pus out from
under. that
relieved much of the pain. however, later that day, the crust peeled back
revealing the
raw flesh beneath. i think exposure to the aire caused the burning pain
and the radiating
sharp pain into the wrist and forearm.
so what i have gathered from everyone's responses, i need to keep it moist
until the
new skin begins to form. causticum seems the best internal rx to take.
aloe vera
is a good concommittant and thio to be taken after the scab is off to
prevent scarring.
the scarring is the least of my worries.
my major concern was for any long term effects from the chemical burn that
may enter
into my system.
in working with this chemical combo, i received many burns on my face and
hands but
none of them reacted so deeply since i could wash them off fairly fairly
quickly and they
were exposed to air all the time. this one spot though was contained under
the glove and
held the chemical. pretty nasty stuff!
my last question concerns rubrics for reporatizing this burn. i had
difficulty finding adequate
rubrics. Generals, Burns and Skin, Pain, burning. not very helpful.
what suggestions do
others have.
tanya
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size of a quarter
when i discovered it. it was under a latex glove that i was wearing and so
did not notice
the burn till after i finished working. other spots that were burned
healed fairly quickly
with little effort. but this one had been festering for a couple of hours
before i saw it. the
skin had already developed a blackened layer. it was pretty sore for
several days but i
could work with it. it was only when the crust began to shrink it felt
like it was pulling the
surrounding flesh which became red and a bit swollen. after a couple days
of this, the
crust broke loose on one side and i was able to squeeze some pus out from
under. that
relieved much of the pain. however, later that day, the crust peeled back
revealing the
raw flesh beneath. i think exposure to the aire caused the burning pain
and the radiating
sharp pain into the wrist and forearm.
so what i have gathered from everyone's responses, i need to keep it moist
until the
new skin begins to form. causticum seems the best internal rx to take.
aloe vera
is a good concommittant and thio to be taken after the scab is off to
prevent scarring.
the scarring is the least of my worries.
my major concern was for any long term effects from the chemical burn that
may enter
into my system.
in working with this chemical combo, i received many burns on my face and
hands but
none of them reacted so deeply since i could wash them off fairly fairly
quickly and they
were exposed to air all the time. this one spot though was contained under
the glove and
held the chemical. pretty nasty stuff!
my last question concerns rubrics for reporatizing this burn. i had
difficulty finding adequate
rubrics. Generals, Burns and Skin, Pain, burning. not very helpful.
what suggestions do
others have.
tanya
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Re: caustic burns
Tanya,
Just another quick thought--One method of burn management that I've
read glowing reports about, is to cover with gauze wet down with
calendula lotion; during the time of healing do not change the bandage,
only make sure that it stays well wet with the calendula. The piece I
read said that the bandage may begin to get pretty nasty, but the skin
beneath will stay free of infection, and by leaving it undisturbed, the
new skin will have best chance to re-grow. This was said to bring
wonderful results even in very deep and extensive burns (and I assume
principle would be same for a chemical burn?).
For rubrics, I see "Generalities, Burns" (86 rxs) and sub-rubrics, e.g.
"fail to heal, or ill effects of: carb-ac, caust"; "with
suppuration: calc-s" (but maybe you're past that). Wow, stay away from
that stuff!
Shannon
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Just another quick thought--One method of burn management that I've
read glowing reports about, is to cover with gauze wet down with
calendula lotion; during the time of healing do not change the bandage,
only make sure that it stays well wet with the calendula. The piece I
read said that the bandage may begin to get pretty nasty, but the skin
beneath will stay free of infection, and by leaving it undisturbed, the
new skin will have best chance to re-grow. This was said to bring
wonderful results even in very deep and extensive burns (and I assume
principle would be same for a chemical burn?).
For rubrics, I see "Generalities, Burns" (86 rxs) and sub-rubrics, e.g.
"fail to heal, or ill effects of: carb-ac, caust"; "with
suppuration: calc-s" (but maybe you're past that). Wow, stay away from
that stuff!
Shannon
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