skin Application ( suppression)

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Colleagues - Hn is talking here about LM potencies NOT C!

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285 Sixth Edition

In this way, the cure of very old disease may be furthered by the physician
applying externally, rubbing it in the back, arms, extremities, the same
medicine he gives internally and which showed itself curatively. In doing
so, he must avoid parts subject to pain or spasm or skin eruption.*

* From this fact may be explained those marvellous cures, however
infrequent, where chronic deformed patients, whose skin nevertheless was
sound and clean, were cured quickly and permanently after a few baths whose
medicinal constituents (by, chance) were homœopathically related. On the
other hand, the mineral baths very often brought on increased injury with
patients, whose eruptions on the skin were suppressed. After a brief period
of well-being, the life principle allowed the inner, uncured malady to
appear elsewhere, more important for life and health.

At times, instead, the ocular nerve would become paralyzed and produce
amaurosis, sometimes the crystalline lens would become clouded, hearing
lost, mania or suffocating asthma would follow or an apoplexy would end the
sufferings of the deluded patient.

A fundamental principle of the homœopathic physician (which distinguishes
him from every physician of all older schools) is this, that he never
employs for any patient a medicine, whose effects on the healthy human has
not previously been carefully proven and thus made known to him (Aph 20,
21). To prescribe for the sick on mere conjecture of some possible
usefulness for some similar disease or from hearsay "that a remedy has
helped in such and such a disease" - such conscienceless venture the
philanthropic homœopathist will leave to the allopath. A genuine physician
and practitioner or our art will therefore never send the sick to any of the
numerous mineral baths, because almost all are unknown so far as their
accurate, positive effects on the healthy human organism is concerned, and
when misused, must be counted among the most violent and dangerous drugs. In
this way, out of a thousand sent to the most celebrated of these baths by
ignorant physicians allopathically uncured and blindly sent there perhaps
one or two are cured by chance more often return only apparently cured and
the miracle is proclaimed aloud. Hundreds, meanwhile sneak quietly away,
more or less worse and the rest remain to prepare themselves for their
eternal resting place, a fact that is verified by the presence of numerous
well-filled graveyards surrounding the most celebrated of these spas.**

** A true homœopathic physician, one who never acts without correct
fundamental principles, never gambles with the life of the sick entrusted to
him as in a lottery where the winner is in the ratio of 1 to 500 or 1000
(blanks here consisting of aggravation or death), will never expose any one
of his patients to such danger and send him for good luck to a mineral bath,
as is done so frequently by allopaths in order to get rid of the sick in an
acceptable manner spoiled by him or others.
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Rgds
Soroush

[VR VR]

Where do you understand that from? Are you indicating that olfaction (described in 284) is also LM and not C?
Vera

Finrod wrote:
Dear Colleagues - Hn is talking here about LM potencies NOT C!

======
285 Sixth Edition

In this way, the cure of very old disease may be furthered by the physician
applying externally, rubbing it in the back, arms, extremities, the same
medicine he gives internally and which showed itself curatively. In doing
so, he must avoid parts subject to pain or spasm or skin eruption.*

*(snip)
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[medmidas]

Is LM=50M
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VR VR wrote:

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Vera

If my memory serves me right, I think I had discussed this point with
Sheilagh Creasy years ago.

Contrast 285 with 194 and also 197 & 198.

Rgds
Soroush

[VR VR]

Dear Soroush and all,
194, 197 and 198 all refer to topical application externally of remedies on the afflicted area, if I understand correctly. In 285, Hahnemann specifically refers to rubbing remedies on areas where there are no lesions, "he must avoid parts subject to pain or spasm or skin eruption". This reminds me of the instructions for using progesterone patches or creams, where patients are told to apply them to varying parts of the body, changing from time to time, where the skin is just being used as a point of entry for the drug. Rubbing in a remedy is just another alternative to the oral dose and to olfaction (which would make sense in terms of where it appears in the organon, since olfaction clearly doesn't only apply to LMs).
When I was studying I was taught (wrongly, as I learned later from David Little) that all aphorisms from 246 onwards only apply to LM potencies - is it possible that this interpretation of 285 results from that misconception?
I posted a note on the list a while ago asking if anyone out there had experience in applying remedies in the way recommended in 285, rubbing them in (not topical application on a wound or irritation or spasm site). The silence was fairly deafening..., so I've started experimenting, I'll post if anything interesting comes up. Has anyone else had any experience with this method since then?
Regards,
Vera

Finrod wrote:
Dear Vera

If my memory serves me right, I think I had discussed this point with
Sheilagh Creasy years ago.

Contrast 285 with 194 and also 197 & 198.

Rgds
Soroush

[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Hi, Vera.

Yes, rubbing the liquid remedy (centesimal or LM) on the skin works just
fine. The point I originally made was the one you cite here, that it should
not be put on the lesions. It sounded in the

[Gail]

Hi Vera,

I have found rubbing the remedy into the skin very effective -
usually I use the inside of the wrist. I use it for those who don't
like to take the alcohol but who need a liquid dose with the option
of repeating it using succussion.

Gail A.
-- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, VR VR wrote:
remedies on the afflicted area, if I understand correctly. In 285,
Hahnemann specifically refers to rubbing remedies on areas where
there are no lesions, "he must avoid parts subject to pain or spasm
or skin eruption". This reminds me of the instructions for using
progesterone patches or creams, where patients are told to apply
them to varying parts of the body, changing from time to time, where
the skin is just being used as a point of entry for the drug.
Rubbing in a remedy is just another alternative to the oral dose and
to olfaction (which would make sense in terms of where it appears in
the organon, since olfaction clearly doesn't only apply to LMs).
from David Little) that all aphorisms from 246 onwards only apply to
LM potencies - is it possible that this interpretation of 285
results from that misconception?
there had experience in applying remedies in the way recommended in
285, rubbing them in (not topical application on a wound or
irritation or spasm site). The silence was fairly deafening..., so
I've started experimenting, I'll post if anything interesting comes
up. Has anyone else had any experience with this method since then?
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[Michele Graham]

In unconscious patients I have rubbed into lips or pulse point on the wrist.
Michele.

[Paul Booyse]

Hello Vera,

creams, where patients are told to apply them to varying parts of the body,
changing from time to time, where the skin is just being used as a point of
entry for the drug.
The advice to alternate is based on firstly the idea tha using only one
point of appilcation may saturate the absorption pathway at that site. It
may certainly avoid possible side effects at tha site from prolonged usage.

Regards,
Paul