> Another question.
Sheri
I just describe this as a "me-too" attempt at mimicking conventional
medicine. That the whole concept of generating artificial immunity to a
disease belongs to allopathy, & not to us. & That what we *do* have, all of
our own, are (1) homoeoprophylaxis - short-term interventions to assist the
body in making the most functional response possible to the disease, but not
to side-step around the process of developing the kind of natural immunity
that only embracing and effectively dealing with the real disease can offer;
and (2) effective means of addressing these childhood diseases with acute
homoeopathic treatment, should they require that.
Most folks who come to me wanting "homeopathic vaccination" want something
to satisfy third parties - schools, camps, grandparents. So that it can be
written down as meeting somebody else's requirements. Informing them that
the "authorities" will not accept this as a substitute usually diverts the
question.
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Will Taylor, MD
homoeopathic website at
http://www.simillibus.com
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And from another one of my mentors............
No I haven't written anything. I just describe it as an allopathic approach
to using homeopathic remedies and that there is no evidence that it works.
Steve Waldstein RSHom (NA)
Classical Homeopathy, Inc.
2600 South Parker Road #1-313
Aurora, CO 80014 USA
303-338-1776
steve@homeopathy-cures.com
Web: http://homeopathy-cures.com
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Homeopathic Nosodes are not all that great as vaccines unless you know that
there is an epidemic in the area or that you have been exposed to a disease.
Homeopathic remedies don't last as a preventative for too long,....maybe 6
to 8 weeks for a 200c. I do suggest that my patients who wish to avoid the
flu use Influenzinum 30c or 200c in distilled water, succussed (shaken
vigoriously)several time and dosing of a few drops every month during that
season. Some folks respond to Oscillicoccinum 200c in the same manner. I
am one person who does not so I know that others also are not sensitive to
that remedy. I will often take a dose of Streptococcinum 200c if I believe
that I will be entering a home of a patient to do a housecall and that may
have that disease. So I do use the remedies as nosodes. But I have used
Pertussin 200c or 30c when a child has whooping cough. I most often notice
that giving the remedy that suits the situation of symptoms is much better.
So I might notice that everyone is calling me with a certain set of
symptoms. I realize that there must be a virus that seems to be responding
to a particular remedy. Sam Hahnemann called this Homeopathic Epidenicus.
So I will suggest that a few folks who have been exposed to that particular
sick patient also take that particular remedy for those symtpoms. But the
effects of the remedy do not last very long. This is the same for
"homeopathic vaccines" used as nosodes.
The scheduled method of allopathic vaccines is not based on science, only on
the pharmacuetical industry's wish to sell their products. They just
happen to have the approval of the goverenment and therefore, can make us
all believe that only through continued vaccination that we can "wipe out
all diseases". There is no science in any of this theory.
Homeoprophylaxis - so-called Homeopathic Vaccinations
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I'm curious whether anyone here has read either of his books where he
relates the results of his twenty-year study of the results of his
system of homeoprophylaxis? I have not yet done so, tho I hope to
shortly. But I have to say I admire the way he has gone about it--he
has laid out his specific procedures, and then done long-term,
large-group follow-up to determine the results. According to his brief
comments (I have not yet read the entire book), he found that the
children who went thru the homeoprophylaxis program (and of course no
vaccines) were actually healthier than those who had neither vaccines
nor homeoprophylaxis. Sheri, I'd be particularly interested in your
reactions to the book itself, if you've read it?
Shannon
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relates the results of his twenty-year study of the results of his
system of homeoprophylaxis? I have not yet done so, tho I hope to
shortly. But I have to say I admire the way he has gone about it--he
has laid out his specific procedures, and then done long-term,
large-group follow-up to determine the results. According to his brief
comments (I have not yet read the entire book), he found that the
children who went thru the homeoprophylaxis program (and of course no
vaccines) were actually healthier than those who had neither vaccines
nor homeoprophylaxis. Sheri, I'd be particularly interested in your
reactions to the book itself, if you've read it?
Shannon
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Hi Shannon,
I have read one of his books, in which he relates the reults of his research
project.
One of his conclusions is that the children who received homoeopathic
prophylactic remedies were even healthier than the children who just
received constitutional homoeopathic treatment. He syas this conclusion
surprised himself as much as I am sure it surprises everyone else here.
I don't think you can blame Isaac Golden for believing in the existence of
viruses and germs. I'm sure he would share that believe with over 95 % of
the readers of this list. I would say that Sheri is in the minority here. It
is interesting to read about these alternative theories now and then, as
they make you think about how we see the world, but I must confess I can't
find all of these theories very convincing. I don't think it is terribly
relevant for what we do anyway. We go on the symptoms and the issue of
causal effect from a virus or not is often not the most important one in
deciding on the simillimum.
I also would not want to put too much emphasis on these theories, as I think
it might alienate a significant part of potential users of homoeopathy. The
sheer quantity of Sheri's posts and the persistence with which she hammers
dissenting views on these issues might give the wrong impression of the
focus of this group.
All the best,
Jon van Hoffen
I have read one of his books, in which he relates the reults of his research
project.
One of his conclusions is that the children who received homoeopathic
prophylactic remedies were even healthier than the children who just
received constitutional homoeopathic treatment. He syas this conclusion
surprised himself as much as I am sure it surprises everyone else here.
I don't think you can blame Isaac Golden for believing in the existence of
viruses and germs. I'm sure he would share that believe with over 95 % of
the readers of this list. I would say that Sheri is in the minority here. It
is interesting to read about these alternative theories now and then, as
they make you think about how we see the world, but I must confess I can't
find all of these theories very convincing. I don't think it is terribly
relevant for what we do anyway. We go on the symptoms and the issue of
causal effect from a virus or not is often not the most important one in
deciding on the simillimum.
I also would not want to put too much emphasis on these theories, as I think
it might alienate a significant part of potential users of homoeopathy. The
sheer quantity of Sheri's posts and the persistence with which she hammers
dissenting views on these issues might give the wrong impression of the
focus of this group.
All the best,
Jon van Hoffen
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Thanks, Jon!
You've confirmed what I thought I remembered reading. Intriguing, IMO!
I had wondered whether there might be any harm in giving so *many*
nosodes on scanty indication (if any), and was mightily intrigued to
see that the opposite seems to be the case--but I don't mean to draw
any conclusions at least until I've actually read some more!
Best wishes,
Shannon
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You've confirmed what I thought I remembered reading. Intriguing, IMO!
I had wondered whether there might be any harm in giving so *many*
nosodes on scanty indication (if any), and was mightily intrigued to
see that the opposite seems to be the case--but I don't mean to draw
any conclusions at least until I've actually read some more!
Best wishes,
Shannon
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I have used Isaac Golden's approach for children of parents who ask for
homeoprophylaxsis for a couple of years now & have to agree that these kids
do, in fact, seem to be constitutionally stronger.
In fact, before Xmas I provided HP for 11 different people going to India.
One of those, a patient, has had an enormous shift - for the best - after
taking the malarial nosode which was started 2 weeks before she left. I will
be seeing her in a few weeks because I want to find out more about what has
gone on.
Michele.
homeoprophylaxsis for a couple of years now & have to agree that these kids
do, in fact, seem to be constitutionally stronger.
In fact, before Xmas I provided HP for 11 different people going to India.
One of those, a patient, has had an enormous shift - for the best - after
taking the malarial nosode which was started 2 weeks before she left. I will
be seeing her in a few weeks because I want to find out more about what has
gone on.
Michele.
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Re: Homeoprophylaxis - so-called Homeopathic Vaccinations
to anyone interested in homeoprophylaxis I recommend to also read Dr
Dorothy Shepherd's book on epidemic diseases
Simon King
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
Dorothy Shepherd's book on epidemic diseases
Simon King
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net