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Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:55 am
by Roger B
We agree, although I doubt that we agree as to how much this happens. Nothing that I did had a direct impact on my L5-S1 disk. Everything I did was to reduce inflammation so as to give my body the time and energy to heal my disk. It worked. I even run one mile a couple of times per week, whereas before I couldn't walk around Costco.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:09:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] cell salts bottle

Basically palliation means that it makes you feel better, but doesn't actually heal / cure.
In a way I think you could say there's *some* overlap, in that it can free up the body's own energy for healing work; pain and suffering can come with a huge energy cost to the body. This of course assumes that the palliating agent is not toxic, and doesn't extract a price of its own.

Some examples of palliation would include:

- oatmeal bath for chicken pox, poison oak, etc.
- symptom control via supportive nutrients
- symptom control via "friendly" herbs
- cleaning up after a teen (okay, that could be suppressive too, or just masochistic)
- an occasional weekend off for a workaholic
- a comforting hug to a kid who's been bullied again

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:56 am
by Roger B
I called up the con med doctor. She was so freaking sweet that I didn't have the lack of heart to be mean to her. The only thing that she said was that she was proud of her profession; I did not share that feeling.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:09:40 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: cell salts bottle

thanks for sharing this
So glad you and your wife looked elsewhere! So very glad.
I wish they all would get their just rewards
Sheri
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Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:36 am
by Irene de Villiers
They are usable as homeoprophylaxis - to prevent illness, and they work fanbtastically well for that purpose.
So do other homeopathic remedies work for that purpose.
You seem to have forgotten abot prophylaxis as usual :-)

For cell salts, the prophylaxis method handed down through generatios of homepaths is this:
Have ONE of the cell salts on the dining room table at all times, a different one every week, rotating all twelve devised, studied and documentd by Schuessler, in 6X. (no others)

Every night each member of family takes ONE cell salt tablet form th ose on the dinner table.
The result is clear in the families that do this - the family stays healthy and disease resistant.
There are ALSO documented uses of the cel salts, to cure problems, based on homepathicity to the issues.
That is not true.
You also know it is homeopathic if it has proved to keep the person well prophylactically.
Cell salts are well sudied to do both.
......though perhaps not by your good self :-)

Namaste,
Irene
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Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:37 am
by Irene de Villiers
Just a few that think their way is the only way:-)
Do not tar the rest of us with those same feathers please.

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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:00 am
by Irene de Villiers
Then if you get an open mind one day you WILL like the cell salts.
They follow all the right principles:-)
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:15 am
by Irene de Villiers
There is also prophylactic healing - healing the (invisible) immune system and healing the (invisible) epigenetic switches that are in deleterious positions.
THis means healing the HIDDEN defects in our systems, such as hidden miasms, and other damage to internal organs such as the thymus, which cannot function as preventive for illness unless THEY are in good order or as epigene switche, they are in the healthier switch position.
Propylaxis provides this immune system adn miasm settings health. It may be less visible to the naked eye, but it more than proves its value when those using it never get sick compared to those not using it.

Animals especially approve of this prophylaxis approach. (They are way smarter than humans about it)
I got this from a client today after selecting the remedy based on the cat's inherited genetics and other inherited traits (my ICT or Innate Constitutioal Type system);
By the way, the fact that animals so readily detect homeopathic energy and how well it is matched, will keep any homeopath honest.
There is no way to fool a cat. If you get it wrong, they tell you just as clearly as if you get it right - and refuse the remedy with claws out :-)
(NEVER force a remedy onto an animal that says no; it will be the wrong remedy, wrong potency or too soon for a dose.)

There are exceptions, such as the Ars alb type, who does not often believe in homeopathy. Those cats will pretend total disinterest if you ask them to choose between two remedies.

(Tell the skeptics to put all THIS easily repeatable experience into their pipe and smoke it.)

This is homeopathic prophylaxis at its best :-)
Cats, at least, are smart enough to recognize it as such.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:18 am
by Irene de Villiers
If a cat is in the process of dying of say terminal cancer and is near death, a matched remedy like Ars 10M, can palliate by removing the ability to feel physical trauma or pain, while the mind is stil able to be clear, ensuring a peaceful end.
That is (homeopahic) palliaton, as it makes the symptoms better wihtout healing.

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:20 am
by Irene de Villiers
Touch for Health is another energy system which can cure.
(I had asthma badly till age 36 or so, when TFH cured it in one long 8 hour session).

....Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:24 am
by Irene de Villiers
Often happens when they accidentally use a homeopathic approach.
See Dr Roz's email on that.
They also do it with prophylaxis.
TB vaccines for example - they do not prevent TB but they DO prevent the similar disease of leprosy.
(It is also why cowpox vaccine was effective as against smallpox)

Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: cell salts bottle

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:23 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
And how do we know the patient was cured ala Organon Aph 2??
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The highest ideal of cure is rapid, gentle and permanent restoration of the health, or removal and annihilation of the disease in its whole extent, in the shortest, most reliable, and most harmless way, on easily comprehensible principles.
Soroush
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Sent: 19 August 2015 06:05
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: cell salts bottle
Something I would like to share about allopathic cures. A famous doctor in San Francisco area boasts of only ONE cured patient in over 30 years of practice! I know this is a true statement because his son told me this.

Paulette

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:35:28 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: cell salts bottle
Allopathy suppresses or palliates. Very rare for any true cure.....................show me an example of allopathic cure.
Sheri

At 08:00 AM 8/18/2015, you wrote:
There is also allopathic. Healing (cure), palliation, Allopathy, - these are all distinct categories, with clear definition.

Paul.
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