Re: Dry Dose?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:43 pm
Jeff, it's a lovely idea, and one that has the benefit of being easy to picture; it could be rather nice as a science-fiction film (and, inevitably, the computer game). But it does seem to need some explanation, because it lacks explanatory power and seems highly inconsistent with the few basic things we do know about medicinal action, both pathogenetic and curative.
Has any such attachment been seen (or otherwise detected) to occur? And if this is how an ultrapotency would behave in the presence of an invading pathogen, how does this behaviour relate to the medicine's pathogenetic action, and how would it behave in the presence of bacteria useful to the organism?
This apparent explanation of curative action certainly raises more questions than it seems to answer.
And then there are, as others point out, all the illnesses that don't arise from any kind of invasion by pathogenic organisms: how does this explanation serve to explain the medicine's action in those?
In disease that begins with such an invasion and proceeds to chronic illness with tissue changes, if the medicine's action were primarily that of attachment and physical barriers, how could it effect the broader changes that it certainly does than those at the site of host–parasite interaction?
Most tellingly, given that we know that the particular symptoms that a medicine is capable of causing are the best guide to those it can cure, we have a quandary. Two quite different medicines -- say, Mercurius and Mezereum -- may cure two patients with the "same" illness, say, syphilis; in any case, an illness arising from the one pathogenic organism, in which the two patients exhibit characteristically different symptoms.
We know of the medicines' individual suitability to the particular case by their respective pathogeneses; and each pathogenesis has little to do with the "disease" (here, syphilis) and, typically, does not even cause it to arise per se (that is, in this case, it doesn't introduce, create, or recreate the offending spirochete that gives rise to the disease).
Yet, by virtue of their symptomatic suitability to the particular patient's case of the disease -- that is, of their similarity to the entire patient symptomatology, much of which would not seem to be a direct result of the spirochete -- each is capable, being correctly administered to the right patient, of subduing the patient's entire chronic illness, beginning with the most recent alterations and finally reversing the process the patient underwent in the initial invasion.
Unfortunately, an explanation of the medicine's action that depends entirely on the medicine managing to recognise a host cell's susceptibility to the pathogen, to recognise a particular microorganism's likelihood of being pathogenic, and to fit itself to both fails to take into account or even to allow for the individuality of the patient's morbid response, the known necessity of the medicine to suit (i.e. replicate) that response, and the complex mechanism by which the organism heals itself in reversing it.
In a word, then, the explanation seems simplistic: it seems to explain nothing, and it seems also to be inconsistent with what we know. But if there's more to it -- something that overcomes these difficulties -- it would be interesting to consider.
Cheers --
John
Has any such attachment been seen (or otherwise detected) to occur? And if this is how an ultrapotency would behave in the presence of an invading pathogen, how does this behaviour relate to the medicine's pathogenetic action, and how would it behave in the presence of bacteria useful to the organism?
This apparent explanation of curative action certainly raises more questions than it seems to answer.
And then there are, as others point out, all the illnesses that don't arise from any kind of invasion by pathogenic organisms: how does this explanation serve to explain the medicine's action in those?
In disease that begins with such an invasion and proceeds to chronic illness with tissue changes, if the medicine's action were primarily that of attachment and physical barriers, how could it effect the broader changes that it certainly does than those at the site of host–parasite interaction?
Most tellingly, given that we know that the particular symptoms that a medicine is capable of causing are the best guide to those it can cure, we have a quandary. Two quite different medicines -- say, Mercurius and Mezereum -- may cure two patients with the "same" illness, say, syphilis; in any case, an illness arising from the one pathogenic organism, in which the two patients exhibit characteristically different symptoms.
We know of the medicines' individual suitability to the particular case by their respective pathogeneses; and each pathogenesis has little to do with the "disease" (here, syphilis) and, typically, does not even cause it to arise per se (that is, in this case, it doesn't introduce, create, or recreate the offending spirochete that gives rise to the disease).
Yet, by virtue of their symptomatic suitability to the particular patient's case of the disease -- that is, of their similarity to the entire patient symptomatology, much of which would not seem to be a direct result of the spirochete -- each is capable, being correctly administered to the right patient, of subduing the patient's entire chronic illness, beginning with the most recent alterations and finally reversing the process the patient underwent in the initial invasion.
Unfortunately, an explanation of the medicine's action that depends entirely on the medicine managing to recognise a host cell's susceptibility to the pathogen, to recognise a particular microorganism's likelihood of being pathogenic, and to fit itself to both fails to take into account or even to allow for the individuality of the patient's morbid response, the known necessity of the medicine to suit (i.e. replicate) that response, and the complex mechanism by which the organism heals itself in reversing it.
In a word, then, the explanation seems simplistic: it seems to explain nothing, and it seems also to be inconsistent with what we know. But if there's more to it -- something that overcomes these difficulties -- it would be interesting to consider.
Cheers --
John