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Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:28 pm
by Shannon Nelson
"How long is a string?"
Who knows? Depends on the case. Might also depend on how you define
"miasm". Most of us are only familiar with at best five main miasms
(psoric, tubercular, sycotic, syphilitic, cancer). Some people have
described tubercular and cancer as being combinations of the other three,
while others say no, they are separate miasms, not combinations. So it's a
question one could go round and round about. Why are you asking?
Shannon

on 11/14/04 12:09 AM, Nader Moradi at mn0021@issa2000.net wrote:

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:40 pm
by Shannon Nelson
But I think it is a "chicken or the egg" argument.
Some people say the reason we (humans) are so susceptible to the itch "mite"
(Hahnemann talks about how extremely easily contagious it is), is that psora
is (so some say) simply part of the human condition. To me that seems very
much more plausible than the idea that until humans encountered this little
bug, we were perfect and disease-free (archaeology does not support this
idea), but that danged little bug just blew it all for us. After all,
"miasm" means "susceptibility", and if we had no "susceptibility" to the
itch of psora (physical or mental), we would not have gotten it.

Just my opinion...
Shannon
on 11/14/04 1:08 AM, Nader Moradi at mn0021@issa2000.net wrote:

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:49 pm
by J Lucas
It could be the simillimum to cover the whole case which takes into
consideration the past and the present - why not, but some cases get to be
so 'spoilt' that you cannot always prescribe on the past because you can't
see it reliably, but it is always the better if one can.

By the way, I don't consider remedies to be either deep or superficial (it
was someone else who said this and I was just using the words) - I just see
them as remedies per se.

Best, Joy

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Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:04 pm
by Shannon Nelson
What's the miasm of a piece of meat or a bowl of pondwater?
I'd say Sure, microorganisms don't need our miasms, they have *plenty* of
other places to live!
:-)

on 11/14/04 7:00 AM, Simon at sk2004@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:16 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Nader:

on 11/14/04 7:51 AM, Nader Moradi at mn0021@issa2000.net wrote:
...

They aren't really "definitions", but more thumbnail sketches. But how do
*you* define/describe them, then?
The miasms are simply category names. Categories are arbitrary, based on
groupings of convenience. in this case the "grouping of convenience" has to
do with types of processes and characteristic symptoms, and the *reason* it
is such a useful one for homeopathic prescribing is that "processes" and
"characteristic symptoms" constitute the basis of the "similarity" that
leads to an effective prescription. The same sort of examination can be
done without using the term "miasm" and etc., but many homeopaths have found
this to be a convenient terminology. Does that make sense to you?
Not at all!
But before looking for "the miasm", we need to determine "what is to be
cured".

Shannon

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:16 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Sure!
Remember that "miasmatic diseases" largely = "chronic diseases", which
includes all sorts of conditions that have nothing at all (so far as we
know) to do with any microorganisms--underfunction, structural defects, etc.
(Tho any chronic disease will probably make a person more vulnerable to
microorganisms.)
Shannon

on 11/14/04 6:17 AM, Nader Moradi at mn0021@issa2000.net wrote:

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:43 pm
by Piet Guijt
Joy wrote:
Hi Joy,

Again I agree, the potential of a remedy depends mostly on which level of
similarity the prescription is made.
But depending of the involved level, there is a difference so we can I.E.
say, the nutricion minerals are deep anti-psorics, so in this case it is
better to give a plant remedy first etc.
But in another case, on a more individual level that same 'superficial'
plant remedy can do a miracle, when it is the simmilimum.

Kind regards, Piet

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:28 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
Actually, although we rarely think of it, all these organisms generally coexist with us and in us. It's only when something is out of balance that we react to and/or set the stage for the proliferation of one or the other of them. We too, like the earth and as part of the earth, are each an ecosystem, and when our systemic balance is deranged we can observe that we're suffering the effects caused by our resulting sysceptibility to a pathogen of some kind. Instead of looking to our own balance, we tend to blame the microorganism, however!! That's also why it makes no sense homeopathically to try to treat a single pathogen, such as helicobacter, which in normal circumstances, if we're in good internal ecobalance, would cause us no harm. Our job is to restore the individual to a balanced state. Rosemary

Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:46 pm
by Simon
No I didn't say the maisms were useless in the example I gave I said
you have to take the case

Bit of a misunderstanding there
regards
Simon King


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Re: Miasms - Remedy Selection

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:48 pm
by Simon
Which is why at the bottom of my last reply to nader I asked for a
list of miasms

regards
Simon King


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