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Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:52 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
But she could be thin if or because her "healthy" diet is in reality not healthy......many of my patients do tell me they follow a healthy, natural diet, and when going into details we found soy, dairy, gluten, no good fats and very little real proteins...and a rabbit diet is not a healthy human diet :-)

My patients generally comment afterwards that they did not realise how much better they could feel, how easy it was not to consume the "forbidden goods" and how easy it is to go back to a more youthful figure.
On top of that, I insist again that when the nutrition is correct, the remedies do work better, deeper and faster....huge difference since I started being anal about food almost 10 years ago, if not more.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:55 am
by Rochelle
I have prescribed Ignatia for her as there is a lot of clinging in thoughts to the father of her previous child and I get the impression she is not too happy with her present partner ( the baby’s father) because of the way his children when they stay 3 or 4 days a week, have to be treated how he wants them to be(they will only eat junk food). She mentioned “grief around her lifestyle and her other child wanting her to get back together with his father which won’t happen. There is thrush in Ignatia.
Thrush - labia on inside get raw red some white on tissues. Painful and itchy. Get sore clitoris too. Causation is using condoms!!!! Just found it in my notes. I think she mentioned a latex allergy.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
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Yes, but that implies an imbalance in the mother that could (or not) have a relevance on her child, so I think it is worth investigating, isn't it?

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:58 am
by Rochelle
OK will really go over her diet with her- but having done a herbal degree I suspect her diet is OK. (except for the dairy she will cut and now the gluten I will suggest)
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
But she could be thin if or because her "healthy" diet is in reality not healthy......many of my patients do tell me they follow a healthy, natural diet, and when going into details we found soy, dairy, gluten, no good fats and very little real proteins...and a rabbit diet is not a healthy human diet :-)

My patients generally comment afterwards that they did not realise how much better they could feel, how easy it was not to consume the "forbidden goods" and how easy it is to go back to a more youthful figure.
On top of that, I insist again that when the nutrition is correct, the remedies do work better, deeper and faster....huge difference since I started being anal about food almost 10 years ago, if not more.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:12 am
by Shannon Nelson
And, you might get lucky and have the mother's remedy also help the child…

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:15 am
by Rochelle
She says the colic has lessened by an hour since their remedies !!!!
Going to bed now –so you know if I don’t reply to anymore posts on the subject tonight !!!
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Nelson
Sent: 14 March 2013 00:13
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] vomiting baby
And, you might get lucky and have the mother's remedy also help the child…
Yes, but that implies an imbalance in the mother that could (or not) have a relevance on her child, so I think it is worth investigating, isn't it?

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:41 am
by Irene de Villiers
Rochelle,
Cats have taught me some things that seem to apply to all mammals. So for what it's worth:

Premies can have an immature liver which has difficulty doing digestion, and which needs specific vitamins and glucose/dextrose, at every meal, to help the liver to fully mature - and without which it will not mature, and there will be constipation and serous indigestion, and lack of good growth.
The formula is Glucose (which is essential as it provides energy without any digestion or liver work being needed), plus *relatively* high doses of VitC, B1, B2, B6, at each meal in the formula
- plus replete electrolytes especially Magnesium (replete not high dose).
Food NOT to be changed suddenly for a long time as an immature liver cannot learn new ones easily.
(In a human I'd have the mother skip all gluten and any blood type incompatible foods, and eat a steady straight-forward diet.)
The change was amazing quite soon after that; the liver responded right away.

There's a history to this lesson I got. I had to hand-raise the newborn premie kittens, too small for teats, and one died the 2nd day. The rest made painfully, colicy, slow, constipated, progress. At week 6, I came home to see one kitten who had been playing that morning, lying breathing her last. I could hardly see, driving her to the vet but she died on route and I had an autopsy done. The liver was pure mush.

It was a member of the first (human) heart transplant team, the immunologist, who told me what was wrong, saying that constipation and indigestion and slow growth is all you see for symptoms of a very immature liver, and that the death happens suddenly as I saw, when they eat an unfamiliar meal and regurgitate and aspirate. He gave me the glucose and vitamin formula I used. (Equivalent is 5mg each B vit per 15 lbs of kitten per day total, plus 250 mg ascorbic acid per cup of formula...so separate measurements. And heaping teaspoon or two of glucose per cup. I regret I cannot be sure if it was two, and I am 99% sure it was - or one, if not. But it was stressed that this was totally essential, to give the liver a break and let the body have energy while the liver repaired.)

Magnesium is hard to supplement correctly. And the blood reading will always be normal and is invalid - it needs a red cell magnesium test if yo can find someone to do one. If you supplement it, it needs to be VERY SMALL AMOUNTS AT A TIME TRICKLED THROUGH THE DAY.
Too much magnesium causes diarrhea ad painful raw insides.
Too little magnesium causes constipation and painful gas.

Magnesium gluconate (OTC at pharmacies) is best for this - not the junk at HF stores that is chelated, or citric or whatever. It comes in tablets of 30mg elemental magnesium inside 500mg of magnesium gluconate which is a nice small amount, but you can even cut that in half. It is a fast absorbing one, a couple hours unlike all the rest which take 12 hrs. So it can be used to help allay colic and constipation symptoms with an effect in a few hrs.

Ideally the body prefers Magnesium chloride (MgCl2) and which is the IV choice when it is used IV.
But do NOT use that by mouth even though it is available over the counter as Magnesium chloride hexahydrate in water. MgCl2 needs to be enteric coated as it will react with the stomach juices and make extra stomach acid (Mg++ is a Lewis acid) and extra salt (the Cl reacts with the Na in gastric bicarb to make NaCl which gets resorbed.... and it is like feeding hydrochloric acid and salt!)
[Adults can maybe handle it, with a meal, not a suffering infant]

The magnesium gluconate is a safe version.

With the premie kittens, they got no colostrum so they also got a drop of Aconitum napellus 200C in the daily cup of formula shared. I'm glad to say the remaining two were doubled in size after just a month, and eating whatever they wished, colic free.
I'd be VERY surprised if this baby is not also suffering from an immature liver - you state all the signs - constipation, colic and underweight - with the vomiting complication as well.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: vomiting baby

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:50 am
by Rochelle
Very interesting as usual from you J
Rochelle
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Irene de Villiers
Rochelle,
Cats have taught me some things that seem to apply to all mammals. So for what it's worth:

Premies can have an immature liver which has difficulty doing digestion, and which needs specific vitamins and glucose/dextrose, at every meal, to help the liver to fully mature - and without which it will not mature, and there will be constipation and serous indigestion, and lack of good growth.
The formula is Glucose (which is essential as it provides energy without any digestion or liver work being needed), plus *relatively* high doses of VitC, B1, B2, B6, at each meal in the formula
- plus replete electrolytes especially Magnesium (replete not high dose).
Food NOT to be changed suddenly for a long time as an immature liver cannot learn new ones easily.
(In a human I'd have the mother skip all gluten and any blood type incompatible foods, and eat a steady straight-forward diet.)
The change was amazing quite soon after that; the liver responded right away.

There's a history to this lesson I got. I had to hand-raise the newborn premie kittens, too small for teats, and one died the 2nd day. The rest made painfully, colicy, slow, constipated, progress. At week 6, I came home to see one kitten who had been playing that morning, lying breathing her last. I could hardly see, driving her to the vet but she died on route and I had an autopsy done. The liver was pure mush.

It was a member of the first (human) heart transplant team, the immunologist, who told me what was wrong, saying that constipation and indigestion and slow growth is all you see for symptoms of a very immature liver, and that the death happens suddenly as I saw, when they eat an unfamiliar meal and regurgitate and aspirate. He gave me the glucose and vitamin formula I used. (Equivalent is 5mg each B vit per 15 lbs of kitten per day total, plus 250 mg ascorbic acid per cup of formula...so separate measurements. And heaping teaspoon or two of glucose per cup. I regret I cannot be sure if it was two, and I am 99% sure it was - or one, if not. But it was stressed that this was totally essential, to give the liver a break and let the body have energy while the liver repaired.)

Magnesium is hard to supplement correctly. And the blood reading will always be normal and is invalid - it needs a red cell magnesium test if yo can find someone to do one. If you supplement it, it needs to be VERY SMALL AMOUNTS AT A TIME TRICKLED THROUGH THE DAY.
Too much magnesium causes diarrhea ad painful raw insides.
Too little magnesium causes constipation and painful gas.

Magnesium gluconate (OTC at pharmacies) is best for this - not the junk at HF stores that is chelated, or citric or whatever. It comes in tablets of 30mg elemental magnesium inside 500mg of magnesium gluconate which is a nice small amount, but you can even cut that in half. It is a fast absorbing one, a couple hours unlike all the rest which take 12 hrs. So it can be used to help allay colic and constipation symptoms with an effect in a few hrs.

Ideally the body prefers Magnesium chloride (MgCl2) and which is the IV choice when it is used IV.
But do NOT use that by mouth even though it is available over the counter as Magnesium chloride hexahydrate in water. MgCl2 needs to be enteric coated as it will react with the stomach juices and make extra stomach acid (Mg++ is a Lewis acid) and extra salt (the Cl reacts with the Na in gastric bicarb to make NaCl which gets resorbed.... and it is like feeding hydrochloric acid and salt!)
[Adults can maybe handle it, with a meal, not a suffering infant]

The magnesium gluconate is a safe version.

With the premie kittens, they got no colostrum so they also got a drop of Aconitum napellus 200C in the daily cup of formula shared. I'm glad to say the remaining two were doubled in size after just a month, and eating whatever they wished, colic free.
I'd be VERY surprised if this baby is not also suffering from an immature liver - you state all the signs - constipation, colic and underweight - with the vomiting complication as well.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."