Minutus

Hi Allen,

While there is no doubt that "environmental pollutants" are likely
contributors, I suspect that plastics are merely one of perhaps a hundred
other examples of the last century's "better living thru Chemistry"
(paraphrased on one of my favorite websites as "Better Living through
Reckless Experimentation")

Specifically related to "epidemic of male and especially female reproductive
problems, increase in cancers, and many other etc" ... it seems to me to be
more like a vision of a society which is expressing miasmic dis-ease ..
individually and institutionally.. I believe that the intake of information
from the TV is 1000 times more likely to contribute to dis-ease than is the
plastic box comprising its housing.. and in the same way that we look at a
case to discover the "center" and the miasmic basis -I think we must look at
the sickness of society.. both in relation to itself, its individual
members, and its greater environment / biosphere.

Epidemic reproductive problems are also directly related to hormones added
to food supply; lowering of pubescent age of females too.

The number of implicated substances/toxins is literally too long to list!

And let's not forget allopathic iatrogenesis- which even by their own
figures is one of the leading causes of death in the "developed
ountries" -figures which are wholly unenlightened & therefore inaccurate by
our standards of chronic disease case management, where we might rightly
consider a near 100% contributory link between active cancers and the
allopathic medical paradigm overall- including its active suppression of
homeopathy..

some links for further research:

Chemical Manipulation of Consciousness, Behavior,
Health and Evolutionary Potential in the Human Population
http://www.trufax.org/menu/chem.html

Human Burden of Environmental Toxins and Their Common Health Effects
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/med5-1.html

Male Infertility: Nutritional and Environmental Considerations
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/infert5-1.html
regards,

Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

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buying bottled water.. ? many alternatives..
http://www.google.com/search?q="water%20purification"
Partial list of articles & links related to endocrine disruptors from:
http://www.trufax.org/menu/chem.html
Environmental Estrogenic Chemicals
Pesticides Mimic Human Hormones Suspected of Damaging Reproductive System
Combining Two or Three Pesticide Ingredients Increases Neurological Damage
Endocrine Disruptors Resource Center
Updates about science and policy of endocrine disruption
Introduction to Hormone Disrupting Chemicals
Hormone Disrupters in the Environment, Environmental levels and Effects
Types of Environmental Estrogens
Protein Hormones and Steroid Hormones
Hormone Disruptors Homepage
List of Known and Suspected Hormone Disruptors
Persistent Organochlorine Hormone Disruptors
Organochlorine Pesticides
Pesticide and Herbicide Hormone Disruptors
Pthalate (plasticizer) Hormone Disruptors
Endocrine Disruptors in the Environment
A Timeline of Estrogenic Research
PCB Estrogenicity in Human Breast Cells
Hormone Disruption by Estrogenic Chemicals in Shampoos
Abstract: Men Suffering From Prenatal Exposure to `Hormonal' Toxicants?
Abstract: Identification of Environmental Chemicals with Estrogenic Activity
Early Eastrogen Exposure - Effect on Reproductive Systems
Estrogens in Unexpected Places
Sweden and Denmark: Phase-out of Estrogenic Chemicals
Pesticide Mixes Maximize Risk Exponentially
"Estrogens: The New Environmental Hazard?"
Other Hormone Disrupting Chemicals
New Toxicological Patterns
PCB Caused Alteration in Estrogen Metabolism
Biomarkers and Human Exposure Assessment
USGS: Use of Biomarkers as Indicators of Potential Endocrine Disruption
Mechanisms of hormone, antihormone and steroid receptor actions
Chemicals and Male Reproductive Health
Hoechst (I.G.Farben) Pesticides Targeted
UK Gulfweb: Endocrinology Disorders and Chemical Pollutants
Chemical Mechanisms in Toxicology
Endocrinology Disorders and Chemical Pollutants
1996: White House Plans Estrogen Disruptor Research
Developmental Effects of Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals
Endocrine Disruptors from "Our Stolen Future"
Infant Risks from Pesticides
Neurotoxicity and Pregnancy
Hormones and Behavior
regards,

Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Tri-Cities Computer (TN) |Asheville Computer (NC)
423-952-0983 or 877-245-3362 |(828)285-0240
$9.95 internet http://www.federalisp.com/?page=ispsignup

Hi Dave, Sheila, and everyone who has posted on this issue...

Thank you all for putting forward your knowledge on plastic contaminants and how they affect all of us...

Originally I was concerned that since we were proposing to use these items
to create potentisations of various Rx's wouldn't their contaminants also become potentised and therefore have greater effect... or am I just thinking a little too deeply
on this ???

any ideas how we could get round it ??

Jas

Dave - Absolutely. I also believe that we have now reached or are in the
process of reaching the end of our miasmatic rope and the numerous diseases,
disorders, instances and evidences of societal breakdown and pathology are
reflective of this as are all the inadequacies and miscalculations that you
have listed below. I am reminded by what you have written about the story
broadcast on a network news program 20 years or so ago about the children -
mostly girls - in Puerto Rico who were going through puberty at 3 years of
age. The cause was traced to beef that was laced with hormones to fatten the
cattle up before slaughter. Ignorance combined with greed and a lack of
concern for the welfare of your fellow humans/creatures/planetary residents
is a sure recipe for disaster. This surely sounds like the formula that many
seem to be applying to build our modern world. The great medical men reside
atop the pyramid of ignorance and deception like the wizard of Oz, hiding
behind a curtain of pretended knowledge and science, pulling levers and
yanking chains to keep us, the little people, dancing and beholden to them
and their feeble attempts to give us life as they see it. The last stage in
the degeneration of a species is its increasing inability to reproduce,
which is an evolutionary admission of sorts, of an awareness that it is
unfit and/or unworthy to do so.

Allen

Thanks for all the links Dave!
Lisa:-)

Thanks for the links dave.

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dear sara, thank you so much for this info. with great fear i went to my
poland springs water bottle and looked. it was a 2. whether the water is
safe or not is another huge quesion, especially because in maine at least in
1986, which is the last time i was up to date on any of this, there were at
least 5 super toxic waste sites there, i forget the exact name that they are
called. poland springs always assures me their water is safe and bread and
circus - whole foods - supposedly goes by the water rating that poland
springs does daily or several times daily. the food is not only processed
as you write, but the food, water, and air are poisoned. sheila
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