Minutus

I suppose you could also start looking at the 'home' remedies and look for
something that has 'better or ameliorated when away from home'. Along these
lines also could be 'diversion ameliorates' sort of thinking.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 2/18/04 12:49 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hmm...
Well, but when she is away from home, she will go to bed -- and to sleep!!
-- very much earlier; she might stay up and read until 10, but no longer,
and then will sleep a good *nine* hours, not five!!! This seems to continue
for as long as she is away from home, and she comes back looking positively
rested. (We're trying to get her to go away again...) For which reasons I
more favor rubrics re obsessiveness, things in the proper place, etc.
(There's also a radio show she likes rather passionately that goes over at
2:00... She's never said that she stays up to hear it, but the coincidence
of timing is interesting... I think I'll press that question to her... It
would be truly absurd if she were damaging herself this much over a radio
show, but then the situation is truly absurd in any case!)

Thanks,
Shannon
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Hi Shannon,
When away from home what are the compensating factors
that facilitate her to go to bed early.Is that the feeling
that there is somebody now to take care of her should
any anything happen or is it just plain amel from company
or fear of being alone when staying at home or what,..
and these aspects that distinguish the new setting
as compared to her staying at home as viewed by her
needs to be explored and understood.
just my 2 cents...
V.T.Yekkirala.
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I think the compensating factors are simply that her "obsessions" (or so I'm
calling them) are not around -- no breakfast to prepare, no mail to sort
(and that's the *biggie*!!!), no doors/windows to check, no household debris
to pick up, etc. When she's away, all she has to do is the reading that she
longs to do anyway (mostly health newsletters) but is too sleepy for once
she sits down.

Sadly, she doesn't *like* to be away from home, because she dreads the
workload (basically mail) that greets her on return, and because her food
needs are difficult (she reacts to many foods), and because she doesn't get
around that well these days. But she does always come home looking much
better for it.
on 2/18/04 10:43 AM, V.T. Yekkirala at vtyekkirala@hotmail.com wrote:

Almost getting to sound like Arsenicum, even Nux vomica which someone else
suggested? Nux has the longing for peace and tranquility which might be what
her past dreams were all about.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 2/18/04 7:12 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

I think the compensating factors are simply that her "obsessions" (or so I'm
calling them) are not around -- no breakfast to prepare, no mail to sort
(and that's the *biggie*!!!), no doors/windows to check, no household debris
to pick up, etc. When she's away, all she has to do is the reading that she
longs to do anyway (mostly health newsletters) but is too sleepy for once
she sits down.

Sadly, she doesn't *like* to be away from home, because she dreads the
workload (basically mail) that greets her on return, and because her food
needs are difficult (she reacts to many foods), and because she doesn't get
around that well these days. But she does always come home looking much
better for it.
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Ach, I agree...
Ars 30 didn't seem to have any effect at all, and I was afraid to give
higher (because she is so frail right now!). Nux-v had acted only slightly
(12c daily for several weeks), so I switched to Sep, which has acted nicely
(tho not deeply enough, it seems to me). Maybe I should try ars low and
repeated, as we've been doing with sepia. It doesn't seem to suit her
physicals as well, tho...

Some more context: Two of her longest-lasting physical complaints have been
(1) constipation without urging, since childhood, and (2) cramps in the legs
< dairy, since young adulthood. She also has a lot of water retention,
belly swells after eating (unless each meal is really tiny). *Severe*
hypothyroid, many food sensitivities. Material from her earlier life's
story brought opium strongly to mind, but it too didn't seem to act in a 30c
(that was a couple of years ago).

I have trouble knowing what of her past "story" should be included in my
present repping, so I switch back and forth: sometimes trying to look only
at symptoms in the present (and periodically comparing those possibilities
to earlier life possibilities), and trying to see what might fit the entire
picture, from her earlier years. So far I'm not making much headway...
Calc worked *extremely* well for both physical pain and emotional upset when
she had a broken leg a couple of years back; sepia working rather well in
the present. I don't think of any other remedies that have had a pronounced
benefit, tho over the years she's had phos, sulph, calc (before the break),
calc-p (by the boatload), and probably others I don't remember.

But the state she's in now is not her usual; her "normal" personality is
vibrant, humorous, *very* interested in people and issues and ideas; she
used to laugh a *lot*, loved jokes, good or bad! (still loves them,
actually); used to love to dance, would break out singing in, er, odd
circumstances; easily startled (it was a family joke!). She once remarked
thoughtfully: "You know that saying, 'Laugh and the world laughs with you,
cry and you cry alone? Well, it's not true. If you start laughing in a
crowded elevator, people just back away.'" )) I do *not* mean to
paint a picture of someone out of touch with the world around, because she
was most emphatically not. But she was a very vibrant, vital person. As a
young adult she says she wanted only to "be home with my babies" (four
kids), but instead ran two businesses (to put her husband thru law school,
but then kept them long past the time of need), and ran them very
successfully and very well.

Now, tho, she can't even "run" her kitchen table; she is so slow, so tired,
so easily irritated, easily overcome (those are the big things that sepia
has helped). It's not simply because she's "old", tho at 85, well, that's
certainly a factor... Her mother died at this age of kidney failure, and
she mentions that fact repeatedly. (I don't know whether her kidneys are in
fact bad or not; I don't know how one would tell, tho no doctor has talked
about it.)

So as a practical question (one of many ), should the constipation be
included in repping, or not necessarily? I appreciate these thoughts, tho I
don't really have a "full case" at present...

Thanks,
Shannon
on 2/18/04 1:22 PM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

Shannon,
There is a rubric Mind: occupied with objects immediately
around him: carbn-s.
hering: Mind
behaviour childish and idiotic
surly, morose,vehement, irrascible

Reg sleep, I myself had experenced it.About a month ago
I had prickling sensation on the hard palate. I also had the
other symptom of urging in rectum after breakfast. The sure
similimum was carbn-s. After 30c, the two sx vanished followed
by about a month of daytime sleeping,irresistible one such that
I will collapse anywhere. Late falling to sleep. with non stop
sneezing. All were proving sx of carbn-s.
carbn s has cramps of calf muscle and toes.
the constipation without urging does seem intriguing. But so far in
my study nothing was revealed with reg to carbn s.
Worth a try ?
Regards
venkat
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Dear Shannon, I hadn't realised the age of the person was 85 and so I had a
few more thoughts - I kept thinking about Phos ac seeing as she is so worn
out and exhausted, driven by a need to sort out mentally. Someone also
mentioned kali carb, this is also a worn out remedy (as all the acids and
kalis usually are). You have given arsenicum in the past and kali carb is
very similar to Arsenicum. But overall I couldn't get away from Calc carb -
overworked and exhausted, worries about their responsibilities and duties,
apprehensive << towards evening, sits and thinks about trivial matters -
overall an overwhelmed mental and physical state due to overwork and worry -
all the MM's wil say this.

And you say she is constipated, which could clinch Calc carb.

If you need to include her past pleasant dreams then Calc carb has all sorts
of busy dreams raging from fearful to fantastic and will be seen in bold
type under pleasant dreams.

Just a few more thoughts - hope useful.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

Mm, that's one that came to mind some time back, tho I can't remember why!
I'll have another look -- thanks!
Shannon
on 2/19/04 2:05 AM, J.venkatasubramanian at apexpreci2000@yahoo.co.in wrote:

Thanks Joy,

Calc-c actually worked extremely well for a time (while she healed from a
broken bone) -- helped not only her physical discomfort, but also a
tremendous M/E amel. Later, tho, it didn't do any more... Phos ac and
kali-c are both ideas I'll look more at.

Kali-c I have in my mind as serious, reserved, "closed", duty-bound,
"black-and-white", rigid... This description doesn't suit her at all,
*especially* not when she was healthier; but are there other presentations I
should be aware of too? (Not asking you to do my "homework" for me, LOL!
But if there are some quick thoughts...)

Shannon
on 2/19/04 6:58 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

Kali carb was more to do with the fact that you had previously given
arsenicum and also it rivals with sepia as well, also prescribed by you.
Kali carb often choose accountancy as a profession so that also gives an
idea about how the mind works. Certainly most of the kaliums have the very
early morning time problems, kali carb is not alone in that. But you could
turn it a round and say that this is her 'good time', 2 am is when she is
ready to sleep and feels good so I would add Causticum to this as well (also
a kalium don't forget) and it has a thing about 'going to bed' especially
children, also exhausted from being 'burnt out' and usually constipated. But
I suppose it is not really knowing the whole case which is the real problem
here (for me anyway).

You perhaps need to home in onto what caused the turn around in her health.
And if calc carb helped so much before why not go back to it but with a
completely different potency, try LM's for example.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 2/19/04 3:16 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Thanks Joy,

Calc-c actually worked extremely well for a time (while she healed from a
broken bone) -- helped not only her physical discomfort, but also a
tremendous M/E amel. Later, tho, it didn't do any more... Phos ac and
kali-c are both ideas I'll look more at.

Kali-c I have in my mind as serious, reserved, "closed", duty-bound,
"black-and-white", rigid... This description doesn't suit her at all,
*especially* not when she was healthier; but are there other presentations I
should be aware of too? (Not asking you to do my "homework" for me, LOL!
But if there are some quick thoughts...)

Shannon
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