patient worried about remedy
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Beth Landau-Halpern
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Re: patient worried about remedy
Have you had any positive experiences with remedies by olfaction? I've not
tried it. I've also heard that diluting the remedy and rubbing it on the
temples can work (especially with babies). Anyone have any input on that?
BEth
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tried it. I've also heard that diluting the remedy and rubbing it on the
temples can work (especially with babies). Anyone have any input on that?
BEth
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Beth Landau-Halpern
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Re: patient worried about remedy
Thanks for the Lachesis suggestion. Of course, she hadn't refused to take
the remedy when I first saw her. Clearly, that does have an impact on my
initial prescription -- although given the complexity of the case, I'm still
not sure arsenicum isn't best. In any case, I'm not much more likely to get
her to take lachesis than arsenicum -- neither sounds terribly reassuring to
a homeopathic novice (she was sent to my by her family physician). I shall
keep lachesis in mind and may even send her some as well. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Beth
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the remedy when I first saw her. Clearly, that does have an impact on my
initial prescription -- although given the complexity of the case, I'm still
not sure arsenicum isn't best. In any case, I'm not much more likely to get
her to take lachesis than arsenicum -- neither sounds terribly reassuring to
a homeopathic novice (she was sent to my by her family physician). I shall
keep lachesis in mind and may even send her some as well. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Beth
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Beth Landau-Halpern
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Re: patient worried about remedy
Thanks Shannon -- liked those images, especially the one about the postcard.
Not sure if they'll work for this patient, but will come in useful some day.
Beth
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Not sure if they'll work for this patient, but will come in useful some day.
Beth
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: patient worried about remedy
I think it was Roger Morrison who told some very funny stories about
remedies being taken successfully in some very "non-standard" ways -- as ear
drops, in the bathtub (parents who misunderstood the instructions!)...
So based on that I'd say sure, rubbed on the temples should work too! I was
taught to go especially for "where the skin in thin"; tho I wouldn't have
put the ear canal in that category, so maybe it doesn't matter!
I've never used olfaction but Hahnemann certainly took it seriously, and
gives specific instructions for how to do it.
Shannon
on 2/11/04 10:26 AM, Beth Landau-Halpern at blh987@hotmail.com wrote:
remedies being taken successfully in some very "non-standard" ways -- as ear
drops, in the bathtub (parents who misunderstood the instructions!)...
So based on that I'd say sure, rubbed on the temples should work too! I was
taught to go especially for "where the skin in thin"; tho I wouldn't have
put the ear canal in that category, so maybe it doesn't matter!
I've never used olfaction but Hahnemann certainly took it seriously, and
gives specific instructions for how to do it.
Shannon
on 2/11/04 10:26 AM, Beth Landau-Halpern at blh987@hotmail.com wrote:
Re: patient worried about remedy
There's no requirement that you make full disclosure, but perhaps you can
say enough to reassure her. When patients ask me about what remedy they are
being given, I tell them that homeopathic remedies are made from various
substances -- animal, vegetable, mineral, and "imponderables," then go off
on a long digression about some of the imponderables, like Ignis or X-ray.
Hopefully, this distracts them (and me) enough that we both forget the
original question. If it doesn't, I'll tell them the category of the
remedy: "I'm giving you a mineral remedy that is wonderful for ...
say enough to reassure her. When patients ask me about what remedy they are
being given, I tell them that homeopathic remedies are made from various
substances -- animal, vegetable, mineral, and "imponderables," then go off
on a long digression about some of the imponderables, like Ignis or X-ray.
Hopefully, this distracts them (and me) enough that we both forget the
original question. If it doesn't, I'll tell them the category of the
remedy: "I'm giving you a mineral remedy that is wonderful for ...
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Usually, this question arises just after I've given a nosode. In that case,
I say I've given them a type of remedy we call "nosodes," which can act as
boosters or help clarify a case.
Personally, I wouldn't be comfortable lying about a remedy or using a
made-up name, but being selective about the truth has always worked for me.
Peace,
Cinnabar
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gracehealth4all
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Re: patient worried about remedy
Dear Beth,
I always give the first pill in the consulting room to all my patients before
they leave. I see this as part of the process and completion of the session;
it's also about asserting my healing intention towards the patient
Invariably, the Arsenicums (and Lach. too) will ask: "what are you giving
me"?; this just confirms to me yet again that Ars. is the right remedy. I even
had a patient who said "Are you giving me Arsenic"? The good thing is that the
Ars. will accept my explanation of what the remedy is and then take it there
and then. Not so easy with the Lachesis patient though, because of their
suspicion.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Grace
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I always give the first pill in the consulting room to all my patients before
they leave. I see this as part of the process and completion of the session;
it's also about asserting my healing intention towards the patient
Invariably, the Arsenicums (and Lach. too) will ask: "what are you giving
me"?; this just confirms to me yet again that Ars. is the right remedy. I even
had a patient who said "Are you giving me Arsenic"? The good thing is that the
Ars. will accept my explanation of what the remedy is and then take it there
and then. Not so easy with the Lachesis patient though, because of their
suspicion.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Grace
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: patient worried about remedy
I have always asked "what are you giving me" too, but not as an ars or a
lach. I think the main thing is *why* the patient is asking, and what
attitude they are holding toward your answer!

on 2/12/04 4:11 PM, gracehealth4all@aol.com at gracehealth4all@aol.com
wrote:
lach. I think the main thing is *why* the patient is asking, and what
attitude they are holding toward your answer!
on 2/12/04 4:11 PM, gracehealth4all@aol.com at gracehealth4all@aol.com
wrote:
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Julian Winston
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Re: patient worried about remedy
At 5:11 PM -0500 2/12/04, gracehealth4all@aol.com wrote:
Friend came to me with a bad head cold.
It was obviously an Arsenicum case.
I gave him some Arsenicum.
He said, "What is this Arsenic?"
I laughed, and said, "sure is!"
He laughed and took it.
Then he said, "Really. What was it?"
JW
Friend came to me with a bad head cold.
It was obviously an Arsenicum case.
I gave him some Arsenicum.
He said, "What is this Arsenic?"
I laughed, and said, "sure is!"
He laughed and took it.
Then he said, "Really. What was it?"
JW
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Rosemary C Hyde Ph D
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Re: patient worried about remedy
Olfaction works just fine. It's especially helpful for use with highly sensitive patients, because the depth and length of the breath as well as the distance of the open bottle from the nose can be controlled. I've had a patient go from severe psychosis (OCD with paranoia) to almost complete normalcy using only olfaction.
I've also rubbed remedies on the lips of temples of subjects unable to ingest them for whatever reason (animals and babies especially) and they've seemed as effective as if ingested.
Rosemary
I've also rubbed remedies on the lips of temples of subjects unable to ingest them for whatever reason (animals and babies especially) and they've seemed as effective as if ingested.
Rosemary

