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patient, you are dealing with a chronic (because you have >to keep doing
this) disease state
sounds fair. but it may or may not be a miasm.

time when a depressed or anxious patient of mine >hadn'r been on SSRI's. We
are talking years of interface >between patients on SSRI's seeking
homeopathic advice.
until now the interface between homeopathy and biochemistry is about zero.
but time will be that patients will want to see evidence that homeopathic
remedies moderate serotonin levels, whether we like it or not, and whether
we think its relevant or not.
ascorbic is needed, i.e. how efficient the >biochemic pathways are. Whereas
manufacturing their own >ascorbic would be a genetic change - its something
genetically-induced biochemic individuality is the best example you can get.
in terms of ascorbic acid, its the *retention* of a pathway.

andrew

Hello,

I would like to get the opinion of the group regarding vitamin and
mineral supplementation. I plan to discuss the question with our
homepath but I also want to get a general feel for how the homeopath
community regards such supplementation. I assume that homeopathic
treatment adjusts biochemical deficiencies to some extent but I
wonder can it really "reform" the deficiency to a baseline that
requires no individualized vitamin and mineral supplementaion?

Another specific concern that I have is that I don't think that
there is enough calcium, magnesium and possibly zinc in the diet for
two reasons. Adequate food sources are not available (the quality
of the food and its source soil are questionable) and a large enough
amount can not be consumed in order to get what is needed. I have
read that juicing might address this issue but I am not sure this is
the answer either.

We eat nutient dense whole foods and since we can't use dairy I have
tried to use other food sources to replace dairy. I still think
that we are not getting enough nutrients to adequately replace
dairy. Is there anything wrong with using vitamins and minerals in
conjunction with homeopathic treatment? The only problem I can see
is that if there is a positive response to supplementation or the
remedy then the homeopath can't determine whether the cause was the
remedy or the supplementation.

Also, what is the best non-dairy food source of calcium, and
magnesium? I have searched and found green leafy food, chicken and
beef broth and gelatin and almonds as the main candidates. Do you
have any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Gail Z.
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dear gail,

i agree with you that it is impossible to get enought nutrition from the foods
available today. for general supplementation i prefer a whole food condensed
supplement of organic fruits and vegetables. that seems to have high bio-availability
i have recommended this to some others and the benefits have been pretty good.

i tend to avoid vitamin supplements because most people respond to fads and ttend to
take these without any real knowledge of their personal and specific needs. this can be
unhealthy due to creating imbalances in the body.

tanya

My personal view is very simple.............

We need a given amount of each mineral and vitamin in order to function
properly, and it varies according to our health, stresses, etc,.....

If it is not in the food, there is no way any amount of any homeopathic
remedy is going to provide it.
If it is not ENOUGH in the food, there is no way any homeopathic remedy is
going to increase it.
If it is in the food, or in supplements, and you do not absorb it, only
homeopathic remedies are going to be useful.

Conclusion: you have to know what is happening to the individual patient.
What else is new???

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

Hello tanya,

Thanks for answering my note about supplementation. Can you suggest
a whole food condensed supplement? If not by name then by category
or website? I would certainly research anything that was suggested
and make my own informed decision before supplementing with
anything.

Thanks,

Gail Z.

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Your e-mail has several issues: Whether there is benefit from vitamin and nutritional supplements? Whether homeopathic remedies can affect an empirical result? Whether this empirical measurement has as acceptable baseline?

You presume that dairy is a necessary component of diet and therefore seek a substitute on the inference that it supports the mineral ingestion of calcium and magnesium.

You assume and assert that food sources which you use do not have sufficient mineral and/or nutrient presence. Whether juicing is responsive is an open question for you.

I synopsized, I hope accurately, to illustrate, in my opinion, that you are a 'prejudiced' inquirer, and are seeking to supplement what you believe to be a quantitative condition only. That is the allopathic view of the organism. It certainly has value, and a time and place for application. Nutritional supplements do have a functional consequence upon the organism without question.

If one intends good health one must become a political force and presence, as food and beverage is the first medicine. If food sources are deficient one must organise and lobby for those changes in food production and processing that optimise and retain Universal law and natural intentions. The taking of supplements on the basis of a deficiency in food value or some empirical assessment of the organism is a perilous application in addressing the issue of good health. It is a reflection of the notion that, 'it is easy to prescribe, and it is difficult to diagnose'.

I would argue for political application and affect your food sources for the better.

A brief short story that has application in principle. While giving a presentation to a medical group in Trinidad wherein much inquiry was made from the physicians regarding protocol for the treatment of respiratory cases. There being a preponderance of cases of repiratory distress. My response to them was that to be a good physician and citizen requires political presence. If one intends good health one must be political. I alluded to the air in Trinidad which is much too much of the time heavy with the discharges of the automobiles and the petro refining industry. As physicians who seek to deliver healthcare to their patients begins with a good diagnosis of the aetiology rather than focusing on protocol. That this directs their attention to the pollutants in the air which are of such density that one can taste its acrid and bitter nature; that they ought to be knocking on the doors of Parliament and the Ministry of Health, rather than Rx albuterol, ventolin, singular, or some Herbal composition that I might reccommend.

Trinidad is blessed with steady tradewinds all year round which readily carry the discharges off. Sometimes the wind abates and the discharges linger or settle; nonetheless the discharges must go somewhere, in the ocean or carried across the water to affect other regions. We are a global community with an unbalanced global matrix, the address of which begins at home with the individual, you and me, affecting conditions toward Universal intentions.

Hi Gail

Have a look at www.sekebal.com.

Regards

Eleana