Dear Arlene,
Something interesting that I have experienced (and is
consistent with Organon) is that when you solve a
pillule in a glass of water, the solution becomes much
more stimulating. I have seen that the difference
between 2 teaspoons and 1 teaspoon is MUCH more than 2
pillules and 1 pillule taken by the patient. The point
is that in solutions you can apply a flexible dose
adjustment.
Yes, I agree with you but Hahnemann's teachings is the
best place to start with. I hope that in future we can
go further in the correct path.
Those 6-7 patients were a VERY VERY small percentage
of my patients who didn't respond to the technic of
dose adjustment but did excellent with dry doses. This
is a limited number of patients for finding the reason
for their specific reaction.
Kind regards,
Ardavan
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Re: split doses
Dear Dave,
Same here!
%99.5 is so near to %100! Isn't it?!
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Ardavan
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Same here!
%99.5 is so near to %100! Isn't it?!
)Regards,
Ardavan
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Re: split doses
Thanks, Arvadan,
Had they not responded to LM doses, yet you were very sure of the rx, or
did they have over- or under-response, such that you were led to keep
the rx but try dry dosing, or ???
Best,
Shannon
Ardavan Shahrdar wrote:
Had they not responded to LM doses, yet you were very sure of the rx, or
did they have over- or under-response, such that you were led to keep
the rx but try dry dosing, or ???
Best,
Shannon
Ardavan Shahrdar wrote:
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Re: split doses
Shannon wrote:
Dave, from those few can you make any suggestions about what sorts of
patients or
situations might respond better to 4th Org practice (dry, watch and
wait) than to
liquid/LM? Others?
Shannon
Hello all,
We always must "wait and watch' no matter or a dry or liquid dose is given.
We wait until we notice the reaction to the remedy is not sufficient enough or anymore.
There is no difference in reaction to a first liquid or dry dose, only the dose and potency matters.
The reaction to dry or liquid can be different, because it is hard to say how much dose was given, what was the size of the pellet etc. A too small dose can give a shorter reaction, than an optimal dose.
Sometimes one dose is enough to get the long lasting action we want, and here it does not matter weather a suitable dry or liquid dose was given. We see this often with children, one dose in 10M directly can work out miracles.
When you have to repeat, the flexibility with liquid remedies is much greater.
With dry doses we have to wait until the 'space' available (say 50 % relapse) in the patient is enough to fit our fixed dose, otherwise the reaction will be to strong. With the liquid form we can give a dose that is adjusted to the intensity of the deviation of the optimal reaction (100%), when we see a 10% decline in reaction, we just give a much smaller dose to restore the optimal reaction.
In those cases the first reaction is still going on (90%) thats why it is better not to disturb this, by giving the fluid a few shakes to increase the potency a little, so a slightly different reaction is added and leaving the original reaction untouched.
About the 'split dose'
I don' see the Fluidsystem as a split dose.
Just like Ardavan said, when you solve a
globule in a glass of water, the solution becomes much
more stronger.
The information of the globule is copied to the water, so it becomes a much larger dose.
It is not just a method to 'split' the first globule.
A dose means the quantity of medicinal substance, in any form, taken or applied all at the time or in fractional amounts within a given period.
After the patient shows the desired reaction with this first dose, there maybe come a time to repeat.
Repetion of dose means administering of dose of the same medicine, to the same patient for the same disease, for the second or subsequent time.
So to give the remedy in short intervals until reaction sets in, is 'split, broken or divided dosing' but when it is given after the reaction ceases, it is repeating, and not part of a split dose.
Sometimes a split dose is usefull, but to do this in routine is very dangerous.
In fact this is a more strong dose than when all the involved medicine was taken at once. The dose on short intervals gives a cumulative much stronger reaction. For sluggish constitution like CALC, BAR-C etc this is no problem, but don't do this with PHOS, ARS etc constitution.
kind regards, Piet
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Dave, from those few can you make any suggestions about what sorts of
patients or
situations might respond better to 4th Org practice (dry, watch and
wait) than to
liquid/LM? Others?
Shannon
Hello all,
We always must "wait and watch' no matter or a dry or liquid dose is given.
We wait until we notice the reaction to the remedy is not sufficient enough or anymore.
There is no difference in reaction to a first liquid or dry dose, only the dose and potency matters.
The reaction to dry or liquid can be different, because it is hard to say how much dose was given, what was the size of the pellet etc. A too small dose can give a shorter reaction, than an optimal dose.
Sometimes one dose is enough to get the long lasting action we want, and here it does not matter weather a suitable dry or liquid dose was given. We see this often with children, one dose in 10M directly can work out miracles.
When you have to repeat, the flexibility with liquid remedies is much greater.
With dry doses we have to wait until the 'space' available (say 50 % relapse) in the patient is enough to fit our fixed dose, otherwise the reaction will be to strong. With the liquid form we can give a dose that is adjusted to the intensity of the deviation of the optimal reaction (100%), when we see a 10% decline in reaction, we just give a much smaller dose to restore the optimal reaction.
In those cases the first reaction is still going on (90%) thats why it is better not to disturb this, by giving the fluid a few shakes to increase the potency a little, so a slightly different reaction is added and leaving the original reaction untouched.
About the 'split dose'
I don' see the Fluidsystem as a split dose.
Just like Ardavan said, when you solve a
globule in a glass of water, the solution becomes much
more stronger.
The information of the globule is copied to the water, so it becomes a much larger dose.
It is not just a method to 'split' the first globule.
A dose means the quantity of medicinal substance, in any form, taken or applied all at the time or in fractional amounts within a given period.
After the patient shows the desired reaction with this first dose, there maybe come a time to repeat.
Repetion of dose means administering of dose of the same medicine, to the same patient for the same disease, for the second or subsequent time.
So to give the remedy in short intervals until reaction sets in, is 'split, broken or divided dosing' but when it is given after the reaction ceases, it is repeating, and not part of a split dose.
Sometimes a split dose is usefull, but to do this in routine is very dangerous.
In fact this is a more strong dose than when all the involved medicine was taken at once. The dose on short intervals gives a cumulative much stronger reaction. For sluggish constitution like CALC, BAR-C etc this is no problem, but don't do this with PHOS, ARS etc constitution.
kind regards, Piet
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