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Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:57 pm
by Irene de Villiers
It is one of more than twelve thousand PUls rubrics yes.
So that makes it a possible part of a posible Puls situation or state.
The repertories list rubrics from off balance or pathological states of a remedy rather than the normal state. So vanity MAY show up in a Puls state, and I agreew with you that definitions of vanity are different in different sources.

To me that makes it only more important to understand what a normal Puls constitutional type is (in order to better detect the abnormal if not for more pure reasons) and what their motivation is.
Trying to change the repertory in some other direction to emphasize one rubric that is not part of a normal Puls, does not make sense to me.
Vanity is a rubric in sixteen remedies, and in Puls provings did not occur in enough provers to list as more than a 2, despite Puls being researched in far more detail than most remedies, and for me that is in line with what I see (in any species, at any age - I stopped working with human clients when I became too ill to do so but you make a mistake if you think a remedy is different in any other species. It is not.)
WHat the definitions include has less relevance to me that what the Puls situation actually is about.
I prefer to understand the remedy and its normal and skewed traits, than to seek out varying definitions and try to fit those to the remedy.
You have not defined what you consider a Puls state.
Puls is a useful remedy for individuals who are born innate Puls constitutional types. It is not notmal for them to be vain.
Puls may also be useful for other constitutional types whose symptoms best match Puls as a simillimum. Vanity MIGHT be an inclded symptoms in a specific case, but would need an overwhelmingly more relevant set of rubrics to point to Puls as the indicated remedy, unless it was a rare and peculiar feature of the non-Puls-ICT individual in question, to be vain. Then maybe your point may be that it is a good indicator of a need for Puls.
Making themsleves look attractive is the goal of many people, and is the reason that advertizing works so well and that we have fashions in the world. There is nothing weird or off balance or pathological about it, and I do not see that as the repertory version of Vain. "Concerned with one's appearance" or "fastidious" is how I would see it as opposed to "vain", which is too broad and has more far reaching connotations as I listed.
Fastidious includes puls at a (1), along with 67 remedies.
I always find in homeopathy, that the more accurately you can pinpoint the feeling involved, even if you need more than one rubric to do it, the better the repertorizing selection becomes.
That still is mainly to do with how THEY feel about appearance (fastidious) as opposed to what others might think (vanity).
You are sneering at my work with animals but that is not warranted. Animals and people have identical implementations of a remedy, right down to the shape of their nipples! When you have also done both areas of work you can try to deprecate one or the other.
Again you do not differentiate a state and an Innate constitutional type.
I am past retirement age and have indeed been around long enough to meet many Puls types of many ages in many species including the two legged one. I had a good laugh at a newspaper photo of a Puls child here when they opened the fountain downtown, for people tp play in. A girl of maybe 8 or so, already at the long and lanky phase of Puls children, (looking like all limbs and with big ears) wasa being held horizontally on te hip of a woman (likely her mother) with her head adn arms reaching towards the water - and her feet nicely sticking out backwards off the ground where they would not get wet. I just had to think, what a perfect Puls picture:-) The other kids were all enjoying running in the fountain getting feet wet.
The key word is shyly. Not vainly.
Wanting attention is not vanity.
It is rated higher for ailments from jealousy than for jealousy as such. They hold jealousy inside a lot, exploding it out only in specific situations such as soeone interfering with or trying to take away their child.
Jealousy is shared that with several remedies but again it is not vanity.
I agree but that's a lot of rubrics, just not vanity.

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:05 am
by Fran Sheffield
That's very interesting, Irene. How did you come by these thoughts of yours?

Fran.

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:45 pm
by Irene de Villiers
The intersection of genetics and homeopathy plus hard work.

....Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:52 pm
by healthinfo6
Add epigenetics, at least for humans, not sure how much epi variables with cats.
Susan

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:59 pm
by Tanya Marquette
One of the main issues with narcissism is that it is taught. It has become a major cultural personality trait
as the contrary values are not taught any more and are even mocked in those who try to hold onto values
that are humanistic, and communal. Unless an underlying pathological disturbance can be identified, I
am not sure homeopathy can deal with this. Prove me wrong and make me happy.

t

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:41 pm
by Irene de Villiers
Agreed. I include that in the homeopathy-genetics crossover as it is part of genetics as well as part of Hahnemann's brlliant ideas 200 yrs before epigenetics was discovered to explain miasms on a technical level/
The same:-)

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:52 pm
by John R. Benneth
Thanks for posting that link to that article on narcissism, Fran, that was very helpful and informative, especially the part about ego syntonic and ego dystonic conditions.
What I found particularly interesting was the part about tribal narcissism. I think we see a lot of that played out on the Fox News Network. Whether or not it's a treatable condition, is another question . .

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:37 pm
by Fran Sheffield
I think this is what happens when we become the centre and authority of our own universe rather than being second to a higher power.

Self-centredness and self-importance does not advance us or make us better, kinder people - quite the opposite.

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:39 pm
by Fran Sheffield
So why do you think your understanding of the core concepts of Pulsatilla differ so much to the homeopathic pathogenesis?

Re: Treating Narcissism

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:41 pm
by Fran Sheffield
It was someone else who posted that interesting article but I can't remember who at the moment. I hope they put their hand up.