Ellen,
I hope you'll let us know how this does work out -- I do love to hear the "answers" to our "puzzles"!
Shannon
dosage question
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Re: dosage question
Hi, Ellen --
In all this, I haven't seen mention of why it is that you're reluctant to move to Stram. 1M given that, as I understand it, the 200th is no longer causing a curative secondary action. Could you say what the cause of your reluctance is?
Thanks --
John
In all this, I haven't seen mention of why it is that you're reluctant to move to Stram. 1M given that, as I understand it, the 200th is no longer causing a curative secondary action. Could you say what the cause of your reluctance is?
Thanks --
John
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Re: dosage question
As Kent said - Do not desert a remedy that as worked well.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 21 September 2014 09:31
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] dosage question
Hi, Ellen --
In all this, I haven't seen mention of why it is that you're reluctant to move to Stram. 1M given that, as I understand it, the 200th is no longer causing a curative secondary action. Could you say what the cause of your reluctance is?
Thanks --
John
Ellen,
I hope you'll let us know how this does work out -- I do love to hear the "answers" to our "puzzles"!
Shannon
Thanks everyone for pushing up the ante.
About Will Taylor's calc-c change (Calc-osterarium according to him now), I already did a family switch when the px was about 5 years old. 4 years ago. Dulcamara to Stramonium. The symptoms became much more distinct. Here, I am not seeing a symptom change.
I just reviewed Will's nosode course. He is saying when the best remedy is not moving a case, you may think in the direction of a Bowel Nosode. So, I will re-rep the case and think it though.
Dulc and Stram are both in the same facial group (HFA). Calc is not. Of course, Will would not be thinking in those terms. He would be thinking about miasms. I think this case he would say is tubercular. Both the father and the boy are tubercular as a miasm. HFA and I don't usually think of miasms in this way, but taking Will's course on Miasms, I am rethinking my prejudices. For the moment, I prefer Dr. Shahrdar's more medically current miasm analysis. But some cases lend themselves to a more standard miasm analysis.
Susan, good to hear your experience about the correspondence between 200c and LM4. I was thinking 4 of 5, so I was in the ball park.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Ellen Madono
Shannon,
One reason may be Stramonium is not an antipsoric and don't see it listed as antisyphilitic or antisycotic,
Calc Carb is multimiasmatic remedy.
What was being treated?
Interestingly, below, Hahnemann differentiates the Organon's focus on treating non-chronic non-psora "human" diseases which would include communicable, acutes, while Chronic Diseases teaches additional methods necessary based on miasms.
Case analysis initially should determine if you are treating chronic disease due to miasms or chronic illness.
Susan
From Chronic Diseases:
"... the psora that is still latent within, as well as the psora that has developed into one of the innumerable chronic diseases springing from it, is very seldom cured by any single anti-psoric remedy, but requires the use of several of these remedies -in the worst cases the use of quite a number of them- one after the other, for its perfect cure.
This circumstance need not astonish us when we consider that the psora is a chronic miasma of quite peculiar and especial character which in several thousands of years has passed through several millions of human organisms, and must have assumed such a vast extension of varied symptoms, -the elements of those innumerable, chronic, non-venereal ailments, under which mankind now groans,- and could transmute itself into such an indefinite multitude of forms differing from one another as it gradually ultimated itself in the various bodily constitutions of individual men who differed from one another in their domiciles, their climatic peculiarities, their education, habits, occupations, modes of life and of diet, and was moulded by varying bodily and psychic relations. It is, therefore, not strange, that one single and only medicine is insufficient to heal the entire psora and all its forms, and that it requires several medicines in order to respond, by the artificial morbid effects peculiar to each, to the unnumbered host of psora symptoms, and thus to those of all chronic (non venereal) diseases, and to the entire psora, and to do this in a curative homœopathic manner.
The homœopathic medical treatment of the countless chronic diseases (non-venereal and therefore of psoric origin) agrees essentially in its general features with the homœopathic treatment of human diseases as taught in the Organon of the Art of Healing"
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 21 September 2014 09:31
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] dosage question
Hi, Ellen --
In all this, I haven't seen mention of why it is that you're reluctant to move to Stram. 1M given that, as I understand it, the 200th is no longer causing a curative secondary action. Could you say what the cause of your reluctance is?
Thanks --
John
Ellen,
I hope you'll let us know how this does work out -- I do love to hear the "answers" to our "puzzles"!
Shannon
Thanks everyone for pushing up the ante.
About Will Taylor's calc-c change (Calc-osterarium according to him now), I already did a family switch when the px was about 5 years old. 4 years ago. Dulcamara to Stramonium. The symptoms became much more distinct. Here, I am not seeing a symptom change.
I just reviewed Will's nosode course. He is saying when the best remedy is not moving a case, you may think in the direction of a Bowel Nosode. So, I will re-rep the case and think it though.
Dulc and Stram are both in the same facial group (HFA). Calc is not. Of course, Will would not be thinking in those terms. He would be thinking about miasms. I think this case he would say is tubercular. Both the father and the boy are tubercular as a miasm. HFA and I don't usually think of miasms in this way, but taking Will's course on Miasms, I am rethinking my prejudices. For the moment, I prefer Dr. Shahrdar's more medically current miasm analysis. But some cases lend themselves to a more standard miasm analysis.
Susan, good to hear your experience about the correspondence between 200c and LM4. I was thinking 4 of 5, so I was in the ball park.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Ellen Madono
Shannon,
One reason may be Stramonium is not an antipsoric and don't see it listed as antisyphilitic or antisycotic,
Calc Carb is multimiasmatic remedy.
What was being treated?
Interestingly, below, Hahnemann differentiates the Organon's focus on treating non-chronic non-psora "human" diseases which would include communicable, acutes, while Chronic Diseases teaches additional methods necessary based on miasms.
Case analysis initially should determine if you are treating chronic disease due to miasms or chronic illness.
Susan
From Chronic Diseases:
"... the psora that is still latent within, as well as the psora that has developed into one of the innumerable chronic diseases springing from it, is very seldom cured by any single anti-psoric remedy, but requires the use of several of these remedies -in the worst cases the use of quite a number of them- one after the other, for its perfect cure.
This circumstance need not astonish us when we consider that the psora is a chronic miasma of quite peculiar and especial character which in several thousands of years has passed through several millions of human organisms, and must have assumed such a vast extension of varied symptoms, -the elements of those innumerable, chronic, non-venereal ailments, under which mankind now groans,- and could transmute itself into such an indefinite multitude of forms differing from one another as it gradually ultimated itself in the various bodily constitutions of individual men who differed from one another in their domiciles, their climatic peculiarities, their education, habits, occupations, modes of life and of diet, and was moulded by varying bodily and psychic relations. It is, therefore, not strange, that one single and only medicine is insufficient to heal the entire psora and all its forms, and that it requires several medicines in order to respond, by the artificial morbid effects peculiar to each, to the unnumbered host of psora symptoms, and thus to those of all chronic (non venereal) diseases, and to the entire psora, and to do this in a curative homœopathic manner.
The homœopathic medical treatment of the countless chronic diseases (non-venereal and therefore of psoric origin) agrees essentially in its general features with the homœopathic treatment of human diseases as taught in the Organon of the Art of Healing"