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Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:20 pm
by domenicstanghini
Great Explanation! Best Wishes Domenic

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Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:41 pm
by Leilanae
Hi Dom,

I too, like his explanations. He has a great way of using concepts and overviews to explain where the "answer" fits into the whole picture.

Leilanae
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Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:17 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Thanks, guys!

Domenic, still waiting your answer as to whether I could get a copy of the French repertory you wrote for Haiti (serieusement, mon ami!)

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:38 am
by domenicstanghini
Hi Dr. Joe

I thought you were kidding. But I can guarantee you a copy as soon as you come to Haiti [... half Joking...;-)...]. as it is not far from NZ!!! Yes you were the inspiration to the Haiti MM....but I do NOT have a copy and I will ask the executive HWB and they can respond to your request. Best I can do.

Take Care Domenic

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Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:46 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
It actually crossed my mind....but I cannot afford the cost of the flight and stay...and being off the clinic for a while......OTOH, I could do some homeopathic surgery despite not having held a scalpel for quite a few years....oh boy......temptation, temptation.......

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:10 am
by Hennie Duits
I don't want to defend the 'dry dose' (whatever it may be) in any way,
but consider this: If the dry dose would be as detrimental/harmful in
all cases, as stated (by some), homoeopathy would haven been nipped in
the bud. And obviously, it wasn't.
So, there haven been times/cases when/where the 'dry dose' worked OK.
Again, I don't defend dry dosing, but it seems that dry dosing has
worked OK, right?
And maybe (just maybe), in some cases, 'crude' dry doses might work better.
Just as food for thought,

Hennie

Op 19-1-2013 21:44, leilanae schreef:

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:34 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Allow me to hit that nail on the head even more, just for fun....and
reflection....

- a "dry" dose is never dry as the lactose contains a water lattice that
is essential to carry the homeopathic remedy; inversely, the drop of
medicating potency "impregnates" the lactose so it is at least humid....

- you cannot repeat the same potency twice, it is physically impossible:

* drops from the same dropper have variable volumes/weights: just try to
measure them with a microbalance if you can get one...
* globules are never the same volume, put some on a piece of paper and
look, it is obvious, therefore they never carry the same dose
* same if you use powders, you can never have exactly the same amount
* variable drops + variable carriers = different doses; same when you
use drops or teaspoons of a glass, even if you do not stir, 2 doses will
not be the same
* once the remedy is in the mouth and reaches the system, it is
dissolved in the whole of the extra-cellular volume, which varies all
the time: even if you were able to give exactly the same dose, the
dilution IN the body will vary
* once the potency circulates in the body, it is continually succussed
by the heart beat, which varies all the time, so the number of
succussions is always changing
* variable dilution + variable succussions = never twice the same potency

Headachy already????

IMO, the problem with this system can be found in an overload, an
excessive stimulation. Proof? in acutes and emergencies, you use
whatever potency you have and repeat the same one frequently until
amelioration, then slow down....and it is not a paradox, you need that
type of intensity to match the seriousness of the acute.

How are you doing now???

:-))

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD. "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed
mind". www.naturamedica.webs.com

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:37 am
by John Harvey
Hi, Hennie --

Just a quick note: a dry dose will usually work just as a wet dose will (though it's not as easy to control the dosage). It's not the dryness or wetness that counts, but the ability to minimally change the potency of a wet dose with ease.

Cheers!

John
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"There is no exercise better for the heart than reaching down and lifting people up."
— John Andrew Holmes, Jr.

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:41 am
by John Harvey
Hi, Dr Roz --

This all looks fine if you regard potency and quantity as equivalent dimensions; but of course they are not equivalent

Nevertheless, on the face of it, you've appear to have a point: that the potency of any two consecutive doses might be altered to some miniscule degree by handling, swallowing, the "succussion" of a heartbeat, etc.

Hahnemann's longstanding experience of the matter, though, was that any such theoretical alterations did not have the beneficial effect that was obtained by vigorously stirring the medicine between doses. It would seem that a heartbeat is not enough.

Cheers --

John
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"There is no exercise better for the heart than reaching down and lifting people up."
— John Andrew Holmes, Jr.

Re: Dry Dose?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:32 am
by Dom
I love these types of headaches for fun and reflection! Keeps everyone honest. Sounds like you have a book coming out on the topic! And if you do not at least include a chapter on this topic please.
I wish there were scientific, irrefutable proof, of these assertions...but they make sense!
Only when the Homeopathic "total consciousness" can reach a conclusion can we move on to the next level of truth.
Best Wishes Domenic
:)
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