Vaccines, was 30 Holistic Doctors Poisoned in Germany

[Sheri Nakken]

Elham
I actually cannot believe what I am reading here, that you wrote.

I encourage you to look deeper. Wherever smallpox vaccine went, smallpox followed. Smallpox disappeared in places that never even had the vaccine.

Spend a few months here on John's pages http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

And polio - another story rife with deception - poisonings called polio and blamed on so-called viruses
Diagnostic criteria changes to make it look like the vaccine decreased the number of cases and so much more
http://www.whale.to/v/polio2.htm

You sound like you work for Merck.

You risk yourself or your children on a pipedream and basically a money making venture for the drug company - not me or mine

I truly am shocked!
Sheri
:At 12:55 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
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http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Elham
There is mounting evidence that children given the polio vaccine go on to actually develop polio. Vaccine induced polio.
Polio is not contagious. It is usually picked up by way poor hygiene or kids playing in dirty water etc.

A lot of people may pick up the polio micro organism (3 types of virus), but either show no symptoms or flu like symptoms that pass.

Some of course go on to develop a full range of disastrous symptoms. This is called Wild polio.
The reports show that to avoid embarrassment and loss of income, the vaccine induced polio is not called polio!

"A recent paper published in the Indian Journal of Medical Ethics found c. 47,500 cases of so-called non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP), a polio-like condition that is clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, linked to the oral polio vaccine."
And I am ready to bet that the gangs that administer the polio vaccine, do not follow up to see what happened to the kids afterwards.

(This may be an explanation of why some these guys are killed when trying to vaccinate children.)
Note also that the stool of these vaccinated kids is a means for the virus to be spread in the environment. And in areas of poor hygiene, human waste is in the street! There diapers will be a future source when the waste piles are rotated.

Rgds

Soroush
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Sent: 10 September 2015 12:57
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Vaccines, was 30 Holistic Doctors Poisoned in Germany
Elham
I actually cannot believe what I am reading here, that you wrote.

I encourage you to look deeper. Wherever smallpox vaccine went, smallpox followed. Smallpox disappeared in places that never even had the vaccine.

Spend a few months here on John's pages http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html

And polio - another story rife with deception - poisonings called polio and blamed on so-called viruses
Diagnostic criteria changes to make it look like the vaccine decreased the number of cases and so much more
http://www.whale.to/v/polio2.htm

You sound like you work for Merck.

You risk yourself or your children on a pipedream and basically a money making venture for the drug company - not me or mine

I truly am shocked!
Sheri
:At 12:55 AM 9/10/2015, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Irene de Villiers]

Yes - yours in this case.
NO.
DDT damaged the thyroid and THAT removed resistance to polio (and other diseases.)
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear All and especially Elham
Although this is forum is broadly Hahnemannian, it does not mean that we follow Hn without question.
Although Hn was an extremely clever, knowledgeable and wise person, it does not mean that with was available to him at the time he did not make mistakes. And had he been alive today, he would put big lines through the paragraphs on vaccination. So we should learn from his mistakes also.
All you have to do is to look at the US statistics to see how the rate of infection/communication and deaths from epidemic diseases fell sharply from 1895 to say 1940. This was without the general involvement of vaccines.
Having seen a family member and patients damaged by vaccines, and the lies and cheating and discredited 'research' the promotes vaccines, there is no way that I would support vaccination in any shape or form.
Note also that Jenner (who was not a medic) hit on the smallpox vaccination, but realised that the 10% poor of the population who because of poor hygiene, living conditions and food were more susceptible to smallpox could not afford to be vaccinated. So what better way is there to make money than to SCARE the 90% who could afford vaccination to be vaccinated. By late 1890's this was a multi Million pound business.
Please also note that there is a rubric in Kent's repertory - GENERALS, Vaccination, after (p1410) which indicates that the aftermath of vaccination was well known. And when did Kent compile his Repertory? About 1905!
And since we have had the aftermaths of Smallpox, Polio, MMR, DPT, HIV, Flu etc etc vaccinations.
Please also read 'DPT a Shot in the dark' by Harris Coulter and you soon realise what a mess our population is in.
By the way, this does not mean that we do not understand the role of micro organism in communicating diseases (and in fact Miasms*) but it does not mean that we have to make ourselves ill to perhaps defeat them. In fact if we are not susceptible to them, they all have a useful role in nature.
* Dr Ardavan Shahrdar (owner of Minutus) has worked extensively on the role of micro organisms and especially virus in producing miasms - and produced a master piece - well worth of a Homeopathic Nobel prize if there was one - called Repertorium Virosum. Some colleagues on this forum are familiar with it and use it.
Hopefully one day I will organise a lecture tour for Dr Shahrdar and more can learn this technique.
Very kind regards

Soroush
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Sent: 24 September 2015 05:35
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Subject: Re: Leaving and makes me sick [Minutus] Vaccines, was 30 Holistic Doctors Poisoned in Germany
Dear All
All the hot discussions seem to have calmed down after a quote from hahnemann. But one thing needs to be made clear. Just because a person is a Homoeopath does not necessarily mean He should be anti-vaccine, not believe in micro-organisms as cause of disease etc. I had more or less said only what hahnemaann had said and everyone was calling me anti-hahnemannian. The whole discussion sounded quite funny so I kept quiet. One of the things that was said about my ignorance included that I have never studied organon or Burnette. after the quote from Organon i thought I should quote from Burnette on this topic. This is from his book on vaccinosis

"Fear not, critical reader, this is not an anti-vaccination treatise, for the writer is himself in the habit of vaccinating his patients, au Besoin, and he believes that vaccination does protect ...

So even Burnette (not to speak of hahnemann) is anti-hahnemann

The old Homoeopaths were never against vaccination. They recognized the harm of vaccination and treated that.

There is a lot of un-truth and half truth surrounding the pro-vaccination camp but frankly speaking it is no more than the untruth spread by the anti-vaccination camp. In this "the generation of the half-light" you need to investigate carefully, separating truth from falsehood and reaching to conclusions.
The conclusions may be anything, but they are yours and you are entitled to them. As is the next person entitled to his opinion.
Wrong or right we need to take decisions which we consciously think are best for our patients on the one hand and for humanity on the other.
Best regards

Elham
Elham, try to imagine what kind of health monitoring, communications, and epidemiology Hahnemann was relying on in subscribing to what was at that time universally held to be true. He was relying, it is clear, on hearsay and doctors' faithful impressions, exactly as we do today in pronouncing polio vaccine, measles vaccine, and whooping-cough vaccine not only effective but safe.
It's time we moved from the eighteenth into the nineteenth century, and came to grips with numbers, with long-term results, with the trustworthiness or otherwise of medical reports and research reports. It's time we stopped placing all our faith in hearsay and started challenging authority.
Smallpox disappeared from countries that did not ever a mass vaccination programme against it just as quickly as, if not sooner than, from countries that did. Look into the history of smallpox vaccination in the Philippines, as a great example of ignoring evidence and following your beliefs come what may.
Polio "disappeared" from each district in India state by state as its definition was altered to exclude flaccid paralysis without confirmation of poliovirus. The flaccid paralysis itself, though, has risen spectacularly. It's a pyrrhic victory, I'd have said.
Cheers --
John
As far as Vaccination not having been the cause of eradication of Small pox and of hahnemann's views in this regard I would like to refer you to aphorism 56

...Those who first brought Isopathy to notice,

probably thought of the benefit which mankind received from

cowpox vaccination by which the vaccinated individual is

protected against future smallpox infection and as it were cured

in advance. But both, cowpox an smallpox are only similar, in no

way the same disease. In many respects they differ, namely in

the more rapid course and mildness of cowpox and especially in

this, that it is never contagious to man by mere nearness.

Universal vaccination put an end to all epidemics of that deadly

fearful smallpox to such an extent that the present generation

does no longer possess a clear conception of the former

frightful smallpox plague.
So to say vaccination had no role in eradicating diseases is going a bit too far even hahnemann recognized the role of vaccination in eradicating small pox. He even called it the benefit mankind received from vaccination...
As hahnemann points out you have not seen deadly fearful smallpox --- so today it is easy shouting against vacccination. I have seen again and again what polio can do to those unvaccinated as i have seen what MMr vaccines can do to those vacccinated. Since in India only Polio is compulsory i never stop anyone from having that.
best regards

Elham
Dear Sheri,

You should not leave minutus. This is a forum where people express their opinions and I think you are a very useful member of this forum. You should continue with your posts. I would appreciate if you continue on this forum

Best regards

Elham
Elam: I think she said she was going to the beach for two months!!!
Vicki
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