Thanks Irene,
Had not known about the melatoin/cortisol connection, makes a lot of sense, we do have a rubric that is sleeps better towards morning, might be one to look at.
My husband was a disabled veteran (Korean conflct), he was a night person, and my youngest child is like that also, from the time she was an infant, could always sleep better late at night and their preference would not be out of bed until at least 11:00am.
My husband was an artist and worked in the Theater field, great for him, he wouldn't even get home unitl after the theater ended, then cleaned up, drove home around 3:00 am. I could never get used to that time, I would go to bed at 9:00 pm and wake when he got home, spend some time with him, go back to sleep and I was up @ 6:00 am - never could sleep past 8:00 am.
Perhaps we should be the ones to start looking at those night time sleep patterns. In my area there are a lot of 'night shift' people, and many with rotating schedules which is probably much worse and harder on the body.
As for that patient, she is a cocktail waitress - don't know if she could find other work, but she has been doing it for 6 years or more.
What do you see for possible remedies for 'night people', and yes, I will stick to the rubrics that I am comfortable that will fit for the patient's case.
There is the syph miasm, pretty strongly in this case, so that drove me to consider the 'nightime aggravations' which do not indicate who's 'night' we are discussing.
If syphilitic miasm is < at night is it because nothing is going on and they are bored or not distracted (a big yes for tuberculer miasm as that fit my husband 100%, however upon his passing I came to realize he would have been a Thuja, couldn't see it as I was too close, but he was most certainly grossly over vaccinated during his life.
Gee we picked an interesting, but most complicated, line of work.
But I love it.
Warmly, Maria
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Ellen Madono
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Re: Modalities - < night
Hi,
Think of all those people who watch a computer or TV screen until the wee hours. And then try to sleep. Their melatonin cycles are messed up too.
Best
Ellen
Ellen Madono
Think of all those people who watch a computer or TV screen until the wee hours. And then try to sleep. Their melatonin cycles are messed up too.
Best
Ellen
Ellen Madono
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Modalities - < night
A good idea. The melatonin-cortisol connection is from quite new research. ( I follow all cortisol related research due to my own situation). I have shared it with my Cushings syndrome support group and everyone on the group is in the same boat - cannot sleep at night but everyone in their life gives them a hard time about it. At least now they can show the research to those bugging them and maybe get some compassion and allow for reality over convention.
Reality over convention has to apply more often in the modern complex world, as people adapt to various things including night work. But here I wonder if the there is high cortisol involved.
In my own case when I first got ill and tried to find somethig I coudl do to make ends meet in that condition, I took a night shift job specifically becasue I knew I coudld easily stay alert and awake then.
Might that be so for your client?
After Korea only, or also before it?
I used to be up early before this illness, to do a mile swim before work.
The cortisol - stress hormone - caused the shift to being a night person. It is a nasty hormone, Once it gets a foothold it self-perpetuates. PTSD or whatever the terrible damage of war is called nowadays, would be high on the list of causes of longterm cortisol skewing.
If the victim was also over-vaccinated (as I was also as a child) then the thymus will be mostly gone from the vaccinations and seriously susceptible to total destruction from cortisol.
(A single small steroid dose will destroy 90% of whatever thymus is left, and cortisol is the substance upon which all gluco-cortocoid steroids are modelled.)
That one I do not know how to explain other than maybe an epigenetic change on your husband was passed on.
(essentially a miasm then............a cortisol miasm?)
Tricky schedule to live by.
Rotating schedules are a real killer, Above all the body wants a routine time for sleep.
For example:
Blood pressure NORMALLY goes down during sleep from 10 to 20%, but will go down less when sleep is non-routine (and I do not know how it works in those who sleep regularly in the day).
But the research shows that if BP fails to drop at least ten percent, it sets the person up for cardiovascular disease and heart attacks.
The trick is determining BP during sleep. (It can be done with the right equipment.)
There is also a correlation (per research) between hypertension and daytime sleepers.
However in my own case I find that to be true ONLY if I fight the daytie sleep.
Instead I adapted to it (eg I never accept appointments before 3pm) and my BP went way down, and is now normal depite high cortisol. And at noght when I am awake, I happily write emails etc and do not concern myself that I "ought to be sleeping". In other words I think "worry" - including worrying that society wants us to be a certain way - is a killer activity.
(It started with this research: The circadian clock maintains cardiac function by regulating mitochondrial metabolism in mice. ) and this:
[The biotropic weather conditions and changing the clocks as the extraneous risk factors of weather-dependent exacerbations of chronic diseases]. ) Sodium excretion and other rhythms are also disrupted by daytie sleep, and there is a correlation with Alzheimers type damage.)
I think in 6 yrs she could find other work if she wished, even in this economy.
I would use their ICT remedy - the genetically matched one.
I have found the use of my own ICT to be very helpful, and I have no idea if it includes any appropriate sleep rubrics by which to find it from the more usual homeopathy approach. It shoud have? If you are interested, I shall take a look and report back for interest.
There is always something going on and always somethg one can invent to do...but the miasm is more about mental attitude than the facts of night time. Boredom is like happiess - it is a choice one makes (consciously or unconsciously or due to chemical damage).
For example I know every store that is open at night, I plan my grocery shopping accordingy, and I know what good TV there is at night (or I run PBS replays on my ipad), I have a DVD player and I write all my emails at night. I occasionally eat out at a 24 hr restaurant. I meet others who do that such as travelling sales folk stopping off for a meal, and we plan meetings. There is lots one CAN do, it's a matter of mental approach. It is daytime by email somewhere all the time. I knit, play the piano, do home repairs, invent a new hobby, etc, (maybe I am incapable of getting bored?)
very understandable
Me too:-)
I enjoy the detective work involved. (And nobody interrupts my work at night!)
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Reality over convention has to apply more often in the modern complex world, as people adapt to various things including night work. But here I wonder if the there is high cortisol involved.
In my own case when I first got ill and tried to find somethig I coudl do to make ends meet in that condition, I took a night shift job specifically becasue I knew I coudld easily stay alert and awake then.
Might that be so for your client?
After Korea only, or also before it?
I used to be up early before this illness, to do a mile swim before work.
The cortisol - stress hormone - caused the shift to being a night person. It is a nasty hormone, Once it gets a foothold it self-perpetuates. PTSD or whatever the terrible damage of war is called nowadays, would be high on the list of causes of longterm cortisol skewing.
If the victim was also over-vaccinated (as I was also as a child) then the thymus will be mostly gone from the vaccinations and seriously susceptible to total destruction from cortisol.
(A single small steroid dose will destroy 90% of whatever thymus is left, and cortisol is the substance upon which all gluco-cortocoid steroids are modelled.)
That one I do not know how to explain other than maybe an epigenetic change on your husband was passed on.
(essentially a miasm then............a cortisol miasm?)
Tricky schedule to live by.
Rotating schedules are a real killer, Above all the body wants a routine time for sleep.
For example:
Blood pressure NORMALLY goes down during sleep from 10 to 20%, but will go down less when sleep is non-routine (and I do not know how it works in those who sleep regularly in the day).
But the research shows that if BP fails to drop at least ten percent, it sets the person up for cardiovascular disease and heart attacks.
The trick is determining BP during sleep. (It can be done with the right equipment.)
There is also a correlation (per research) between hypertension and daytime sleepers.
However in my own case I find that to be true ONLY if I fight the daytie sleep.
Instead I adapted to it (eg I never accept appointments before 3pm) and my BP went way down, and is now normal depite high cortisol. And at noght when I am awake, I happily write emails etc and do not concern myself that I "ought to be sleeping". In other words I think "worry" - including worrying that society wants us to be a certain way - is a killer activity.
(It started with this research: The circadian clock maintains cardiac function by regulating mitochondrial metabolism in mice. ) and this:
[The biotropic weather conditions and changing the clocks as the extraneous risk factors of weather-dependent exacerbations of chronic diseases]. ) Sodium excretion and other rhythms are also disrupted by daytie sleep, and there is a correlation with Alzheimers type damage.)
I think in 6 yrs she could find other work if she wished, even in this economy.
I would use their ICT remedy - the genetically matched one.
I have found the use of my own ICT to be very helpful, and I have no idea if it includes any appropriate sleep rubrics by which to find it from the more usual homeopathy approach. It shoud have? If you are interested, I shall take a look and report back for interest.
There is always something going on and always somethg one can invent to do...but the miasm is more about mental attitude than the facts of night time. Boredom is like happiess - it is a choice one makes (consciously or unconsciously or due to chemical damage).
For example I know every store that is open at night, I plan my grocery shopping accordingy, and I know what good TV there is at night (or I run PBS replays on my ipad), I have a DVD player and I write all my emails at night. I occasionally eat out at a 24 hr restaurant. I meet others who do that such as travelling sales folk stopping off for a meal, and we plan meetings. There is lots one CAN do, it's a matter of mental approach. It is daytime by email somewhere all the time. I knit, play the piano, do home repairs, invent a new hobby, etc, (maybe I am incapable of getting bored?)
very understandable
Me too:-)
I enjoy the detective work involved. (And nobody interrupts my work at night!)
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Ginny Wilken
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Re: Modalities - < night
Irene, this is very helpful to me. Thank you! I do my best work and writing at night - always more I want to do before sleeping, and must read myself to sleep even once I give up and go to bed. My muscle pain makes me a slow and reluctant riser now, but all my life I’ve devolved to sleeping from 1:00 or 2:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m.
Cortisol tests fine, and I sleep in darkness, and with a sleep mask. Again, thanks for the insights!
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!
Cortisol tests fine, and I sleep in darkness, and with a sleep mask. Again, thanks for the insights!
ginny
All stunts performed without a net!