PET DENTALS...

[Shannon Nelson]

I thought that bone meal would contain those things?

[Julie Armour]

Hi Vicki,
Would you mix it with a bit of water? I will try this too. I have not wanted to use the stuff at the vet's office anyways, but I couldn't find a good alternative.
Julie

[Julie Armour]

And I agree about not feeding any weight bearing bones of large animals to my dog. I have known many dogs who have broken their teeth with knuckle bones.
julie

[Vicki Satta]

It does Shannon. It's organic, which is important. Here is the original link I posted that my friends use for teeth cleaning of pet and human (their own) teeth:



Then Ginny mentioned that she used bone meal in the past on her teeth and with great success, but for her dogs she uses knuckle ones from beef cattle to clean their teeth.

I agree with her that the bones are superior to the bone meal and cleaning teeth with bones is a great expression of the Paleo diet and is also a great examples of how we can use FOOD AS MEDICINE! Ideally, is it possible to get a butcher to remove the parts of the knuckle bones for us along with that liquid stuff that keeps her dogs' teeth clean! But, according to my understanding, it's not the nutrients in the knuckle bone cartilage and joints that does the trick. It's the moving of the head and the ripping and tearing of the jaw against the bones that takes place while they are ripping and tearing off the meat. I agree with her 100% that all the way natural is the best, but my problem is that they will cause broken teeth (I know people it's happened to) and I can't afford to take the chance, so while I agree, I have to find a way to use the bone meal for TEETH BRUSHING or figure out if I'm doing something wrong w/general concepts of raw feeding and the bones I feed without taking a chance on knuckle bones!

Vicki

[Vicki Satta]

Yes... good water. Just swirl the brush in the water and put the brush in a bit of the bone meal. That's my intention unless we can figure out the way to get what we want from the knuckle bone.

OMG... I remember I got these once from US Wellness... very expensive but for making bone broth. I used them in the broth, but I wonder if we could use them for the dog nutrients.

I'm going to go there and check. I'll write back privately if ok.

Vicki

[Julie Armour]

Yes, that's okay. But I don't think it's the nutrients that you want as much as the actual process of dog chewing and grinding their teeth against the bone. I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think it's just that some dogs are genetically predisposed to having more tartar and staining of their teeth. The teeth brushing that i do mostly eliminates the tartar, but not the staining.
julie

[Ginny Wilken]

I'm not talking about feeding long bones of weight-bearing animals. I won't even feed deer legs to my guys, too many splinters! These are joints; no long bone wall material, just soft matrix with a thin shell and lots of cartilage and tendons. I whack them in half with an axe, so the inside is readily accessible.

How about getting back to Hahnemannian homeopathy now?

ginny

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[Heidi]

Irene, what do you think about homemade bone broth for dogs?
I give this to our dogs when I have it available.

Thanks,
Heidi

[Irene de Villiers]

They should not get more as it unblances other nutrients and gives excess calcium - which causes untold problems.

......Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Excuse me but this must be seen in perspective.
As you can verifyt on Pitcairn's own website he has ZERO credentials in homeopathy.
He has degree as a vet, and a PhD in microbiology, nothing in homeopathy.

He does make money (a lot of it) training and certifying "homeopathic veterinarians" in 5 weekends of seminars held at a nice spa. (It started with 3 weekends, went to 4 then recently to five). If you call anyone a homeopath after 5 weekedns from someone with no credentials, I do not.

What he teaches, results in very incorrect use of homeopathy in my experience and opinion.
and when last I looked he also recommended garlic

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."