QUESTION ABOUT POTENCY FOR PETS...

[Vicki Satta]

Good morning,

I have been using the FRAGARIA VESCA 30C on my own teeth/gums and those of my pets for almost a year. I have to reorder pellets. I'm thinking of changing the potency to 3x for the dogs because that is what the site I first read about the remedy recommends. However, a former homeopath who is no longer in the "esteemed" category of homeopaths recommended 30c for the pets. I have used 30c successfully, but for the long term do you think 3x is a better choice for the dogs?

Thanks, and I will ask my homeopath about the best choice for me!

Vicki

[Paulette Montoya]

Rxs are not taken as vitamins. Once the vital force is tuned then the rx is not needed because the body has incorporated the rx information and heals itself. So if you/pets have continuing problems with your teeth/gums each of you needs a constitutional
rx. But all of you needing the same rx/daily is not homeopathy. Perhaps look into your water supply etc.

Paulette
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Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 09:34:35 -0600
Subject: [Minutus] QUESTION ABOUT POTENCY FOR PETS...

Good morning,

I have been using the FRAGARIA VESCA 30C on my own teeth/gums and those of my pets for almost a year. I have to reorder pellets. I'm thinking of changing the potency to 3x for the dogs because that is what the site I first read about the remedy recommends. However, a former homeopath who is no longer in the "esteemed" category of homeopaths recommended 30c for the pets. I have used 30c successfully, but for the long term do you think 3x is a better choice for the dogs?

Thanks, and I will ask my homeopath about the best choice for me!

Vicki

[Vicki Satta]

Well, I have a homeopath and I am getting healthier than I've ever been in my whole life! Huge weight loss. Immune system is getting stronger. I know how to eat now and ferment so many different varieties of veggies... Paleo is working for me. Homeopathy is working for me, but it's a multi-faceted program. If I hadn't changed my diet and learned how to eat, exercise and lifestyle, homeopathy wouldn't have done much for me. Those changes in lifestyle had to take place along with the remedies. I'm sure you agree with that.

One dog just went through almost 3 years of constitutional... and they eat raw food. So I saw this at exlixirs.com and started using it. It has really helped. The only other thing I can do is get them each a $200 non-anesthetic cleaning, and I don't have $400 for doggie teeth. I have all the dental tools and use them, brush their teeth as well. Maybe the homeopath who recommends this treatment for people and pets is not well trained, but if you look at her bio... she has been in the business for 21 years.

One of them has a sulphur constitutional... I'm sure because her case was taken by a homeopathic vet who made sense when we sat on the phone for an hour + going over the previous 2 years of constitutional treatment she had. As soon as I have the $$ for Sulphur in fibonacci I'll get her the remedy and start treating since I'm confident of the sulphur.

The other one's constitutional is belladona. I think it really turned his gut around. Then he was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and did 2 remedies... nux vomica and calc iodata. I have to test him again soon to be sure he's okay... but I can't do that right now either... it's another $200.00 + so I do their teeth and grooming myself. They aren't bad because they eat raw and because I take care of their teeth and gums, but I think I have to keep doing this because I see that it helps. I just want to get the potency right.

The fragaria has really helped me with tartar build-up ........... for sure. I also do oil pulling and that helps too.

Thanks for your thoughts Paulette!
Vicki

[Ginny Wilken]

Vicki, I agree with Paulette here, in that you cannot just use a potentized remedy on and on. It's like beating the life force with a stick; it cannot react after a while. Systemic cure, of which dental condition is a part, needs to be addressed hardly ever with one, but more often with a succession of carefully chosen remedies to coax the body into fixing itself. I know there are folks who dose daily for years, but I don't feel this is the most effective way to use the wonderful power of remedies to shape a resolution.

So, for my part, I wouldn't be so eager to find a "constitutional", as long as there are clear symptoms better matched by other remedies. Homeopathic resolution is just that: carefully stimulated, constant, even if slow, progress which leads to a state of not needing much in the way of remedies. Perhaps you might limit the fragaria to a topical of unpotentized herbal preparation, so as not to confuse the body.

ginny

--Ginny Wilken

gwilken@fastmail.fm

[Vicki Satta]

Ginny: then I don't know what to do. So do I have to have someone take his case again now or wait until after I get the T5 test done again w/Dr. Dodds? He seems to be doing well now. Walter will be 7 years old in November. Teeth never cleaned by anything but ripping and tearing the bone off the meat, my brushing and putting the remedy along the gum line and the fragaria. What comes first in this case? Money is a definite issue.... and I have to get the sulphur fibonacci for Katie. After Walter got diagnosed w/the hypo and her T5 was good, she kinda got put on hold due to $$. I had her case taken and when the guy told me to dry dose and "pop three pills into her mouth" I stopped the process because I knew he didn't know how to manage the case!

I had sulphur LM1 and gave her several doses, but I don't know how to manage the case with LMs... so I'll start her on Sulphur Fseries as soon as I have the $. Her teeth and gums are in pretty good shape.
Yes. Ginny, have you ever gotten there with your dogs? You know what I've been through with Walter since DAY 1... it has not been fun. Once they have the vaccine stabs it's pretty difficult, even with the raw diet, to ever maintain that state of balance. Katie still has the yeasty ears, but there were immediate + signs of the return of the vital force. The only problem is that I don't know how to manage the LMs... so I stopped. Since I'm sure of what she needs I think it's a good idea to get it and start.
I bought a pound of fragaria TEA... I tried to use it on the gums and teeth, but Walter is too sensitive.... he seemed to have kind of reaction to the herbs. Maybe I should try it again and crush the leaves in water or something (any ideas) and try just the brushing and scaling with it. I still have > 3/4 pound of tea leaves. Should I try that again?

Thanks for your thoughts.
Vicki

[Maria Bohle]

Hi Ginny,
I agree with most of what you are saying.

I have to take issue with using the herbals, even as tinctures over a long period of time.
First it is suppressive, thus masking health issues that should be addressed.
Secondly you cannot take any remedy or herbal without creating proving symptoms. These proving symptoms may allopathically be masking the disease symptoms - also not a good situation. It is certainly NOT similar to the pathology it is an opposite.

I know it is so hard to give up our palliation remedies and pain relievers.

For everything else you said, I agree totally.
Maria

[Maria Bohle]

Biko have you tried raw bones for teeth cleaning for the dogs. Turkey necks are great. I had an old dog who never had his teeth cleaned and my vet was amazed how clean they were. Bone chewing did it all.

[Irene de Villiers]

A low carb or no carb diet is also important.

Irene

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[Shannon Nelson]

VIcki,

I assume you're able to tell when the tartar starts to return, since you've noticed the help from the fragaria? 3x would be a friendlier potency for this kind of thing, if it works -- and I'm guessing it would. Why not try it and see?

Also how often have you been repeating the 30c? Might need only infrequent repetition in any case?

Or a paste of strawberries occasionally might be even friendlier -- my understanding is that it's the berries themselves that have been found to have that effect, not necessarily the leaves or the tea.

Shannon

[Vicki Satta]

Yes, that is what I thought. I know it works and I discussed the lower potency with my homeopath and he said the lower potency would be like "strawberry water" but to try it and see. I need to do everything I can do to keep my gums and teeth healthy...... it's the entrance to the GUT, where the hidden treasures of health are controlling everything!

I ordered both potencies..... I know for sure it works and it doesn't seem to interfere with my remedies..,, the ? is really about my dogs, and Ginny advised that it is probably not a good idea...... so now I have to figure out what to do w/them because Ginny has helped me a lot with Walter over the years and her advice has ALWAYS been good for the dogs.

Sigh... thanks Shannon~

Vicki