Similar versus Identical

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Ellen Madono
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Re: Similar versus Identical

Post by Ellen Madono »

Dr. Roz,

Taking your example of a fractured bone. One use of a remedy is to speed up the healing of the bone during the first 3-8 days after the fracture. Ruta or symph. might do the job without any reference to the individual's reaction. We give Arn. at first and then think about the bone. We are not thinking of the injured person.

But if the bone is in a place that is poorly supplied with blood vessels, then we want to think more deeply about the person who requires healing. It is going to take longer to heal. Or if the fracture or wound does not heal easily. As you say, the person was attacked, perhaps sexually attacked. Then the deeper wound is the emotional wound. In that case, you want to use a remedy that deals more with the emotional reaction of the person.

The first example does not require a high level of similarity. The effect of the remedy is intended to be local and superficial. The whole person has not be affected is the assumption.

The second case, requires a much deeper remedy and similitude is greater. The whole person is involved in the cure.

Best,
Ellen

Ellen Madono


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Similar versus Identical

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Isn't a poisoning a proving with a large material dose?

The more toxic the substance, the less material needed to create symptoms....

Joe.

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Similar versus Identical

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Indeed.

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Ellen Madono
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Re: Similar versus Identical

Post by Ellen Madono »

No, that is not my definition of proving. Provings are highly regulated, and energetic doses not material substance must be used.

Homeopaths often talk that way, but they are just confusing my understanding of a proving.

Loose talk with a technical term is not professional.

Ellen Madono


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Similar versus Identical

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At first Hahnemann used material doses for the provings (not diluted) and then later 30C

They usually use 30C or so in provings today (but can vary)

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Ellen Madono
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Re: Similar versus Identical

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There is such a variation. Not material doses are described as provings. Although he certainly uses the toxicity literature of the day in his understandings of materials.

I just studied a case in Will Taylor's class where the repertorization came out as Merc or Phytolacca. The person was suffering from decaying teeth with many fillings. That was not her complaint. She had rheumatoid arthritis and Chron's syndrome.

Will gave her no remedy and helped her to arrange to have her fillings removed. Her symptoms all went away after the crumbling mercury fillings were removed. So proving symptoms can be used to identify toxicity, but it does not work in the opposite direction. You don't automatically give mercury in potency for mercury poisoning. You have to rep the case.

So, there is a relationship between the material poisoning and proving symptoms. They are not however the same.

Ellen Madono


yerewan
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Re: Similar versus Identical

Post by yerewan »

Some provers use various potencies (6C, 12C, 30C or higher)
in order to get symptoms appear on different issues and at multiple levels.
Will


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