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comdyne2002
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Re: Vaccine

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Are you saying Barbara Loe Fischer is one of them? Please provide details. I always wondered why she has never said that vaccines are a fraud. Carmi Hazen


Cathy Lemmon
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Re: Vaccine

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Indeed, you are correct in this, Vicki. Through courts established by the US government (the National Child Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 and the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, liability has been taken away from the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors providing these-- and the literally billions of dollars that have been paid in compensation through these programs, while paid by the US government per se, comes from the taxpayers themselves.

The most recent reporting of the actual dollar amount paid-- and more information behind the claims that have been filed can be found here:
Data & Statistics


Data & Statistics
Data and statistics related to the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, updated monthly.
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In health!
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Sheri Nakken
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Sheri Nakken »

At 09:59 PM 2/14/2015, you wrote:

VICP law actually helped the vaccine industry
(and Barbara Loe Fisher of NVIC helped that to
happen even though many warned her not to) (see after next article)

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/10/congressman-hen.html
The 1986 law was really enacted to save the
existing vaccine program from collapsing.

At the time, the CDC's official schedule included
10 total vaccines that children were recommended to receive by the age of 5.

But, as the Texas article revealed (and the shot
records of most kids born in the early 80s would
corroborate) children were vaccinated with less
regularity, when they were much older, and with
even fewer vaccines than the recommended schedule.

Not one proponent of the bill advocated a need to
motivate manufacturers to create NEW vaccines or
ever cited anywhere that we were experiencing an
epidemic of diseases for which we did not yet
have vaccines ­ this notion had nothing to do with why the bill was passed.

And yet, as we all know, the passing of the
National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in 1986 was
a watershed moment for the vaccine industry,
unleashing two decades of escalating vaccine
mandates, culminating in the bloated, 36 shot
schedule we have today for kids under 5. The act
sheltered vaccine companies, and they turned
their R&D budgets back on, figured out how to
ensure they bought the bureaucrats who decided
which vaccines are added to the schedule through
the ACIP, turned vaccine development into a
profit growth engine, and the rest is history.

And yet, as we all know, the passing of the
National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in 1986 was
a watershed moment for the vaccine industry,
unleashing two decades of escalating vaccine
mandates, culminating in the bloated, 36 shot
schedule we have today for kids under 5. The act
sheltered vaccine companies, and they turned
their R&D budgets back on, figured out how to
ensure they bought the bureaucrats who decided
which vaccines are added to the schedule through
the ACIP, turned vaccine development into a
profit growth engine, and the rest is history.

**********
From Hilary Butler (in comments section of above article)
I would refer readers here to the following:

1) Volume 3, No.1, Spring 1987 DPT News. (forerunner of what is now NVIC.)

Issue devoted to detailing the huge effort and
struggle by Jeff Schwartz and Barbara Loe Fisher,
and how they successfully countered the
opposition of President Reagan, many in the
senate, and indeed most of the pharmaceutical
companies who were opposed to the legislation.

Anyone who wants a copy, I will scan it. Email me
via the site. [I am asking her for this
again..................mine is misplaced.............Sheri]

2) I refer you to the detailed proceedings found
in the Hearing before the Committee on Labor and
Human Resources, Ninety Ninth congress, S. 827,
July 18, 1985. In the bottom left corner are the
number 52-313O. You can request this item from the Library of Congress.

In it, is detailed the FACTS that Jeff Schwartz,
Barbara Loe Fisher were not only party to the
legislation, but supported it with ardent fervour
in the face of opposition by every other
questioning individual in the country. Those
individuals included (amongst others) Marge
Grant, of Wisconsin www.dptshots.com and Dr J Anthony Morris.

Many others, including myself from afar, not only
opposed the Bill, but wrote to Barbara Loe
Fisher, Jeff Schwartz, and others at the time
pointing out the folly of such a move.

Such was the rancour created by the unwillingness
of Barbara Loe Fisher and Jeff Swartz to listen
to anyone, that Dr Robert Mendelsohn wrote in a
letter dated June 30, 1983 to Marge Grant the following:

"...nothing can make me more dissatisfied with
the leadership of "Dissatisfied Parents Together"
than attempts on their part to cozy up to our common opposition."

I can supply scans of all documents and more, on request.

It will be interesting to see whether or not, in
the interests of the whole truth, Age of Autism publishes this response.

It is useful to remember that sometimes, in
unjustly pointing only one finger, three are pointed in an opposite direction.

Hilary Butler.
www.beyondconformity.org.nz
Sheri Nakken, former RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ &
http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine
Dangers; Childhood Diseases and Child Health
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Cathy Lemmon
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Cathy Lemmon »

Of course, Sheri - I mentioned this in my post yesterday, if you saw that.
I must say, to the contrary, that one thing I work very hard to do in my presentations on homeoprophylaxis is help people learn the absolutely vital role of disease to true health-- that avoiding disease at all costs is actually quite contrary to wellness, that it is best to learn how to work with what is in the environment. The fear of disease is, indeed, promulgated first and foremost today by those who actually stand to benefit from it-- and one of the favorite prey of these entities are parents of young children who, understandably want their children not to get sick. Those who truly know homeoprophylaxis do not promote it by propagating a fear of disease. I want parents to make an educated choice-- I want people to make an educated choice. And this can only happen when they know all the facts.
In health!
- Cathy Lemmon, BA, CHP

List Owner, Homeopathy-and-SN

(http://groups.yahoo.com)
Co-Director, Homeoprophylaxis: A Worldwide Choice

(www.HPWorldwideChoice.com)
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and as you know NOT ALL OF US agree with homeoprophylaxis in this way.

The diseases are not a problem when you know the true reality, risk and treatment and actually are symptoms doing a job relieving the miasmatic burden inherited or acquired. Instead the latest greatest homeoprophylaxis still promotes fear of disease.

Sheri

At 06:38 PM 2/14/2015, you wrote:


sunny
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Re: Vaccine

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Re: Vaccine

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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... rview.aspx
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Irene de Villiers »

I disagree. It promotes common sense about disease and the fact that we all have damaged immune systems.
It is appropriate to assess individual risk 9for a persom or animal) in THEOR environment and to plan homeoprphylaxis accordingly and responsibly/
Pretending blindly (with no assessment) that no prevention is needed, is NOT common sense or healthy.
Just one compelling reason this is so, is that the drugs being used force more virulent forms of those microbes you used closed eyes to look at down a microscope - and the new chemicals force worse immune system robustness.
At the VERY least one shoud use Innate Constitutional Type Health to guide a general robustness-building exercise following the princi ple in APh 141.
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Irene de Villiers »

LOL, no Shrub you mean?
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Angela McGuire
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Angela McGuire »

All I can say is, with the exception of the flu vaccine, I'm glad I got mine so I don't have to deal with any unnecessary diseases! Put me on the record as having said this!

Angie

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Roger B
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Re: Vaccine

Post by Roger B »

Please explain.

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