Health Epistemology 101

[Roger B]

This story is a good example of why we should not wait for evidence based medical so-called science to catch up with what any thinking person could have figured out for themselves:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015 ... /23174871/

Most natural food people knew what that article is saying decades ago.

Following principles (evolution and tradition) and intuition and experience will get you way ahead of conventional medicine's evidence based approach.

Evolution was nice enough to select your genes for diet that you ancestors did well with (or else you wouldn't be here. Tradition was nice enough to select your cuisine that matches your genes (or else you wouldn't be here). Add to that your intuition and experience, and it shouldn't be difficult to figure out what you need. There is no one rule for everyone.

Roger Bird

[Vicki Satta]

Yes Roger. However, we're part of the lucky few. That's why I want to push fermentation education and water kefir to moms and dads. They are the only ones with the power to teach what we know to their own children. There are a lot of young moms out there in the kitchen and in the garden. I think they are growing in numbers, thanks to the Weston A. Price Foundation. That organization saved my life, and I'm grateful.


Vicki

[Ellen Madono]

I was reading about the politics that lead to the condemnation of saturated fats. I can't open my amazon account now to look up the name of the book, but it is advocating eating of saturated fats. One of the authors is Sally Fallon. They are not very specific about the source of saturated fat as organic and non-organic. The assumption seemed to be that you were eating organic fat sources. That's easy with fish, but harder for farm animals.

Ellen Madono

[Tanya Marquette]

Ellen your comment about organic fish is not correct. The fish farming industry is huge in the US.
They are corralled relatively close to shore in highly polluted waters, fed anti-biotics due to high levels of disease,
and other unsavory chemicals. It is only a matter of short time before GE salmon will be approved. There has been
a big fight against this occurring but given the free flow of corporate money, I fear the people will lose.

Sally Fallon is with Weston A. Price and has co-written the book Nourishing Traditions which may be the book you
are thinking about.

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[Ellen Madono]

No, that is not the book. Nourishing Traditions. Mary Enig wrote Nourishing Traditions with Sally Fallon, but has another book just on Saturated Fats. I thought Sally also was one of the authors, but I don't see her name in the Saturated Fat book.

I am very careful not to buy Farm raised fish. Is farm raised required labeling in the US? I am amazed to hear that they are throwing anti-botics into the Ocean. Poison everything. What arrogance.

Fish appear and disappear regularly from the local Japanese fish market because of the weather along the Japanese sea coast. Those little fish are the best, IMO.

In most US localities, it is rare to have such direct connection to the coastline. Even along the West Coast, people buy fish in Supermarkets where local conditions are not well reflected. I recently found a fish seller who really knows the markets. What a difference in quality.
Ellen Madono

[Vicki Satta]

I think it's Sarah Pope's book Ellen. I bought it and it's not worth reading to me. And recipes were terrible. I don't encourage anyone to buy it. Get Your Fats Straight is the name I think.

You can get all the info on the westonapricefoundation site... I think it's westonapricefoundation.com

Vicki

[Tanya Marquette]

Yes, Arrogance is a good word to use about US practices.

People who live on the coast in fishing areas have a closer connection to fresh hauled fish. Seattle, Wash, for example,
has one the biggest fresh fish markets ever. When I visited it was impossible to walk the whole market. And my son was
cooking out there for a couple of years and saw the difference in fresh fish compared to what he got to work with on the east coast.
But in many areas there is no such connection.

FYi, all of the large corporate animal food production mills (CAFOs) use excessive amounts of abs. It has become common knowledge that
overuse of abs for animals has created ab resistant viruses. Most of the abs in the country are used in agriculture.

t

[Tanya Marquette]

Sorry to have neglected answering your question about labeling—no farmed fish is not being labeled just like GMO food is not labeled.

t

[Ginny Wilken]

You can't do much better than to read Gary Taubes' Good Calories Bad Calories. It's a complete and detailed history of how and why medicine chose to champion the polyunsaturated, low fat approach, why it fails, and what really works. Very detailed and well-annotated.

ginny

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[Irene de Villiers]

Antibiotic resistant bacteria you mean.
Antibiotics do not affect viruses. Using them for viral infectons is just stupidity, but there is plenty of it about!

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