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[Elizabeth Byszeski]

Could everyone please respond to the prior post *above* that post like you would an email, rather than interspersed *within* it? It makes it a struggle and often impossible to read! Then it's worse once another responds and the little arrows make no differentiation as to what was what. Some respond *below* the last post and don't even sign a name. PLEASE reply only above the last message to make this manageable!
Thanks ))
Liz

[Roger B]

I agree 100%. I work hard at making my posts understandable. I check spelling and meaning several times. You may disagree with what I say, but at least you know what I said and you know it was me that I said it. And I also try to trim the comments.

So, every Liz said plus what I said.

Roger Bird

P.S. I even include my last name, which, frankly, I hate, just so that people will not get me mixed up with the other Roger who comments here occasionally.
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Posts
Could everyone please respond to the prior post *above* that post like you would an email, rather than interspersed *within* it? It makes it a struggle and often impossible to read! Then it's worse once another responds and the little arrows make no differentiation as to what was what. Some respond *below* the last post and don't even sign a name. PLEASE reply only above the last message to make this manageable!
Thanks ))
Liz
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Posted by: Elizabeth Byszeski

[Roger B]

Oops. "everything that Liz said plus what I said."
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 20:56:17 -0600
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Posts
I agree 100%. I work hard at making my posts understandable. I check spelling and meaning several times. You may disagree with what I say, but at least you know what I said and you know it was me that I said it. And I also try to trim the comments.

So, every Liz said plus what I said.

Roger Bird

P.S. I even include my last name, which, frankly, I hate, just so that people will not get me mixed up with the other Roger who comments here occasionally.
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Posts
Could everyone please respond to the prior post *above* that post like you would an email, rather than interspersed *within* it? It makes it a struggle and often impossible to read! Then it's worse once another responds and the little arrows make no differentiation as to what was what. Some respond *below* the last post and don't even sign a name. PLEASE reply only above the last message to make this manageable!
Thanks ))
Liz
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Posted by: Elizabeth Byszeski

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

Thanks Roger, you do quite well I think. Oh I always agree with what you say because even if at all inaccurate it's funny and well-put But seriously you work to offer something valuable and are always willing to learn which is great IMO.

Trimming helps in the mile-long ones. It's the replies mixed inside other replies that become impossible and at very least tedious and annoying. I see why some do it to respond to points the person before said, but there is the easy art of referring to items in one's own separate response without having to do that

Yahoogroups has deteriorated their functions so badly it's hard enough to post and reply. I just recently figured how to reply and still have what I was replying to appear below.

Let's just be more orderly for everyone's sake!
Liz
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I agree 100%. I work hard at making my posts understandable. I check spelling and meaning several times. You may disagree with what I say, but at least you know what I said and you know it was me that I said it. And I also try to trim the comments.

So, every Liz said plus what I said.

Roger Bird

P.S. I even include my last name, which, frankly, I hate, just so that people will not get me mixed up with the other Roger who comments here occasionally.
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 02:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Posts
Could everyone please respond to the prior post *above* that post like you would an email, rather than interspersed *within* it? It makes it a struggle and often impossible to read! Then it's worse once another responds and the little arrows make no differentiation as to what was what. Some respond *below* the last post and don't even sign a name. PLEASE reply only above the last message to make this manageable!
Thanks ))
Liz
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Posted by: Elizabeth Byszeski

[Roger B]

"It's the replies mixed inside other replies that become impossible and at very least tedious and annoying." I find this sufficiently annoying and confusing that it discourages me from even continuing to read such comments.

Roger Bird.
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:07:09 -0700
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Posts

Thanks Roger, you do quite well I think. Oh I always agree with what you say because even if at all inaccurate it's funny and well-put But seriously you work to offer something valuable and are always willing to learn which is great IMO.

Trimming helps in the mile-long ones. It's the replies mixed inside other replies that become impossible and at very least tedious and annoying. I see why some do it to respond to points the person before said, but there is the easy art of referring to items in one's own separate response without having to do that

Yahoogroups has deteriorated their functions so badly it's hard enough to post and reply. I just recently figured how to reply and still have what I was replying to appear below.

Let's just be more orderly for everyone's sake!
Liz

[Shannon Nelson]

As one of those who sometimes intersperses, I apologize. Liz, I'm interested in your comments about how hard it is to reply on Yahoogroups, and am puzzled. I just get those posts as regular emails, into my regular email stream (which I don't do as webmail because I find that difficult; I have an on-computer email program). In that format, it's very easy to reply, and also very easy to read posts with comments interspersed. I'm curious, are you doing it online via Yahoogroups so it doesn't clog your personal email? (This is just pure curiosity!)

In any case, okay noted, I'll stop interspersing. (And amen to the trimming part, though I know I often forget.)

[Irene de Villiers]

Then you will lose all the sense of replies.
It is important to be able to reply to specific sen tences of anotyher post, and that is exactly why email is used.
SO instead of making a worse prtoblerm let's try to solve the one that one person is having.
EMail is intended to be downloaded on email lists - forums are for online replies.
When downloaded all browsers have settings that will suitably indent the quoted part of a reply, so it can retain the senzse of the original poster to keep it in context and allow specific rersponses to what they say.
They are clearly delineated in downloaded email - or can be with suitable settings.
I do not think the entire EMAIL list grouip (not FORUM list group) should pretend this is an online forum to suit one person using it inappropriately as such.
Let's rather find a solution for why it is not working for that one person (or however many are confusing email with forum usage).
Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

Thanks Shannon. Two different points: the main one being interspersing replies into the ones previous. It's simply difficult to follow, and as others also reply it becomes even harder, as one can no longer tell who wrote what. Traditional responding in correspondence is above the previous message.
#2 Yahoogroups has generally gone through changes and this version is just much less straightforward, so I had some trouble replying to a post and for it to include the prior post...it would have nothing. But figured that out

I use Yahoo mail direct from the Yahoo site for my email, nothing unusual, and get all my group messages in the digest version.

Appreciate your help )
Liz
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
As one of those who sometimes intersperses, I apologize. Liz, I'm interested in your comments about how hard it is to reply on Yahoogroups, and am puzzled. I just get those posts as regular emails, into my regular email stream (which I don't do as webmail because I find that difficult; I have an on-computer email program). In that format, it's very easy to reply, and also very easy to read posts with comments interspersed. I'm curious, are you doing it online via Yahoogroups so it doesn't clog your personal email? (This is just pure curiosity!)

In any case, okay noted, I'll stop interspersing. (And amen to the trimming part, though I know I often forget.)

[Elizabeth Brandegee]

No you do not lose all sense of replies. Yes it is important to reply to certain points (or as you say, sentences) of another post, but no that is not why email is used. Interspersing is not necessary.

I've been on a ton of yahoogroups for about 14 years and see no one else do this but a few folks here.

I have been and remain part of email groups and boards who communicate by email all the time, who do not intersperse. Rarely there have been messages or a document with a large body of material, action items or questions in which the different participants would do that but indicate their response was in a certain color, so it could be clear and differentiated easyily. Yahoogroups does not have color so that's impossible.

In my hundreds of email communications per week, myself nor those I am communicating with intersperse. I am not having to do it within your message right now because I'm simply including what I am talking about in my own sentences.
Another way is to do this:
As to your sentence - "EMail is intended to be downloaded on email lists - forums are for online replies."
I do not know what you are saying here...

When I open a digest message from a yahoogroup there's a list of the posts. Nothing to download, just read, reply to ones inclined to, etc. There is no indent to interspersed responses. There are small arrows, which multiply with additional interspersing but unable to tell who belongs to how many little arrows to the left of each of their sentences... it quickly becomes annoying and difficult to keep straight who is saying what.

Even your response here chops into part of Shannon's. That is messy.

Wow Irene was it really necessary to say this and so harshly? It's also incorrect. --

"I do not think the entire EMAIL list grouip (not FORUM list group) should pretend this is an online forum to suit one person using it inappropriately as such."
Liz

---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Then you will lose all the sense of replies.
It is important to be able to reply to specific sen tences of anotyher post, and that is exactly why email is used.
SO instead of making a worse prtoblerm let's try to solve the one that one person is having.
EMail is intended to be downloaded on email lists - forums are for online replies.
When downloaded all browsers have settings that will suitably indent the quoted part of a reply, so it can retain the senzse of the original poster to keep it in context and allow specific rersponses to what they say.
They are clearly delineated in downloaded email - or can be with suitable settings.
I do not think the entire EMAIL list grouip (not FORUM list group) should pretend this is an online forum to suit one person using it inappropriately as such.
Let's rather find a solution for why it is not working for that one person (or however many are confusing email with forum usage).
Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Roger B]

I like the idea of color, etc. So I am going to try it with your comment.

Let's see how that works.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:33:20 -0700
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Posts

No you do not lose all sense of replies. Yes it is important to reply to certain points (or as you say, sentences) of another post, but no that is not why email is used. Interspersing is not necessary.
This red.

I've been on a ton of yahoogroups for about 14 years and see no one else do this but a few folks here.
And this is blue.

I have been and remain part of email groups and boards who communicate by email all the time, who do not intersperse. Rarely there have been messages or a document with a large body of material, action items or questions in which the different participants would do that but indicate their response was in a certain color, so it could be clear and differentiated easyily. Yahoogroups does not have color so that's impossible.
And this is bold.

In my hundreds of email communications per week, myself nor those I am communicating with intersperse. I am not having to do it within your message right now because I'm simply including what I am talking about in my own sentences.
And this is italics.
Another way is to do this:
As to your sentence - "EMail is intended to be downloaded on email lists - forums are for online replies."
I do not know what you are saying here...

And this is larger.

When I open a digest message from a yahoogroup there's a list of the posts. Nothing to download, just read, reply to ones inclined to, etc. There is no indent to interspersed responses. There are small arrows, which multiply with additional interspersing but unable to tell who belongs to how many little arrows to the left of each of their sentences... it quickly becomes annoying and difficult to keep straight who is saying what.