OT - killing cancer with viruses

[Tanya Marquette]

In a sense doesn’t this sound a bit like a survival mechanism of the body and conforms to a homeopathic
view that says the vital force will do whatever it takes to stay alive. So the body will throw a physical symptom
which is less damaging than a mental or emotional one which can be totally disabling instead of selectively so.

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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

It appears not to be a survival mechanism of the body/person, but a return to more primitive cellular individualisation that aims to "re-create" a living being....but fails.

It is indeed not the shifting of one disabling situation to another, but a breakdown of an identity; at least that is how I do understand it...

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[comdyne2002]

Tumor formation is the natural mechanism of anabolism/catabolism that is a part of the cellular and tissue life cycles. In areas where there is lymphatic and blood fluid stagnation, hypoxia sets in which suffocates the cells, killing many of them. Combined with an already vitiated humor supply, the attenuation in lymphatic drainage causes the body to attempt to wall off the encroaching necrotic tissue degeneration by forming an induration out of the same tissue that constructs a placenta in a pregnancy. In fact, a tumor has been regarded by many to be a misplaced placenta, the contents of which is biological trash rather than a fetus. It is not unusual for surgeons to find hair, fingernails etc., inside large tumors.

The tumor forms an artificial environment much like the sealed vessels utilized to breakdown sanitary sewage or that functionality found in compost piles. The lack of oxygen tension at the proper pressure triggers hypoxia and as the cells die, pleomorphic fungi morph from yeasts which develop hyphae or tentacles which plunge into the organic matter and release digestive enzymes that erode the tissue and return it to its essential components.

Tumor formation occurs thousands of times at the end stages of the life cycle of tissue cells and are broken down via digestive proteolytic enzymes manufactures in the pancreas which roam the body in the wee hours of the morning, seeking out spent tumors and then digest their outer membranes so that the white cells can recognize them as foreign instead of same and destroy them.

When the humors are too vitiated (contaminated with detritis) this process fails to complete and the tumor begins to grow at exponential rates which we call cancer.

There can never be a medical cure by opposing this natural action which is why a cure has not been found nor ever will be. The cancer mechanism in the beginning stages protects us from poisoning our blood supply. If this natural cycle isn't turned off at the proper stages then pleomorphic scavengers invade the site in the form of fungi whose purpose it to return the components back into soil. The cure shall be found only in clearing the blood and lymph of circulating trash and restoring proper nutritive necessities via the diet. The pH of the blood returns to homeostasis and the tumors resolved resulting in a cure. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It appears not to be a survival mechanism of the body/person, but a return to more primitive cellular individualisation that aims to "re-create" a living being....but fails.

It is indeed not the shifting of one disabling situation to another, but a breakdown of an identity; at least that is how I do understand it...

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Ginny Wilken]

That rings my bells, Carmi:) I'll bet that you, too, along with me, give the telefundraisers an earful and then some when they want money for "cancer research".

Did you write this, or is there a source, and may I use it?

ginny

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[comdyne2002]

Certainly! Everybody needs to stop fearing cancer. It isn't a disease, but is rather a condition which was once easily correctable. The first book I re-published was from a British doctor in London who was routinely curing cancer. He was surprised that the "profession" would standby and allow patients to die from it knowing how simple it was at that time to cure, which he did in the thousands. His name was Robert Bell. He authored several books of which one I still do not have. He stated the following: "Cancer is Nature's protest against disobedience, and is the penalty She imposes upon those, who knowingly or unknowingly, have ignored Her teachings." I certainly agree wholeheartedly with that statement. In the Millennium, however, cancer is much harder to cure, but it still can be done, but not by allopathic means.

In essence, the mitochondria within the cell are responding to an external influence imposed upon them via suffocation. The cells shift their metabolism away from burning oxygen and fats to burning far less oxygen and massive amounts of glucose. Refined flour and sugar is the primary fuel and the proliferation of the disease was starkly linked to their development in the early days of food modification. Today many other chemical factors as well as modern farming, has removed minerals and enzymes and has irreparably deranged the foods our Creator provided us, the result being that the machine is not receiving the required nutrition and maintenance as designed. We can't remain healthy unless we know how to replace what is missing and avoid what is poisoning us. It's getting harder and harder to do. I don't think that it will matter much because Fukushima radiation is going to kill us all. It has been said that much of the life in the Pacific Ocean is on the way to complete extinction. For this we can thank General Electric. Remember Ronald Raygun saying "Progress is our most important product?" Ha!

I consider Monsanto to be tool of the Devil. Its predecessors from the WW-II era were Standard Oil (John Rockefeller), Henry Ford, Prescott Bush (the Bush family patriarch) and their German counterpart, I.G. Farben, collaborated to exterminate most of the world's population by scientific means. They are still at it today.

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Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

[Rachel]

maybe! very interesting idea, Jean.

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From: "Jean Doherty clellyd@bigpond.com [minutus]"
To: "minutus@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT - killing cancer with viruses
If there was validity in this theory the nosode of Herpes might help in cases of throat cancer . HSV ? one of the causes. Jean

[Rachel]

hi Irene, no, i don't. i'm just discussing the research they mentioned in the documentary. for your convenience, here's the link again:
Killing Cancer – A VICE on HBO Special Report

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Vice goes inside the world’s most cutting-edge cancer research labs to follow the pioneering doctors and researchers who are changing the face of modern-day medicin...
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i think it was 42 minutes.

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From: "Irene de Villiers furryboots@icehouse.net [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT - killing cancer with viruses
I did not see a documentary and missed your link to one?
I did look up the research in the National library of medicine, most of it this year, on the subject.
Do you have a ref to some other research?
Namaste,
Irene

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[Rachel]

oops on the Malandrinum - sorry Shannon.
Joe, i'm trying to follow you, but just to be clear, what you're saying here about cancer now isn't related to the ideas i was discussing originally, is it? or am i missing the link. thanks!

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From: "'Dr. J Rozencwajg, NMD' jroz@ihug.co.nz [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT - killing cancer with viruses
Mumps is Parotidinum, Malandrinum is a horse disease called "Grease", which I do not know what it is....

There are some new theories about cancer, one that is intriguing is that cancer is in fact a cellular survival mechanism: under the pressure of external and/or internal "toxins" (as a general term), the normal, healthy cells cannot cope any more, so the mechanisms (whatever they are) that block the irregular, uncontrolled cellular division and reproduction are shut down in order to allow the cells that can continue the lineage to reproduce and propagate; it starts with cancer stem cells (CSC), almost normal and slow division, then accelerates into full blown cancer.
This seems to me to leave out the infantile tumours, but there are probably many other mechanisms.

That is why we have successes with "virgin" cases that have not been overloaded with yet more toxic products and way too many failures after chemo and radiotherapy.

I'll see if I can find the publication, quite recent if I remember well....

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz
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[Rachel]

thank you Irene, there's a ton for me to think about here.

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From: "Irene de Villiers furryboots@icehouse.net [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] OT - killing cancer with viruses
I shall enter this topic for the first time.
The concept involves using some known techniques of specific viruses, to enter cancer cells. The researchers call it a cancer vaccine in the making. It is still at the theoretical and experimental stage.
I do not know how they plan to tell the virus which are cancer cells and which not, but attacking a cancer cell to kill it is not homeopathy.
Not just cancer, but any chronic disease which there is no thymus to fight off.
The vaccines and drugs damage the thymus, and THAT is what causes the problems with chronic diseases.
Animals are vaccinated a lot more than children and you see the harm there more easily, as they have no thymus left even when just kittens.
Until recently the leadig medical cause of death in cats was kidney disease. It is now cancer, mainly lymphoma.
There is no correlation between a specific childhood disease and a specific cancer or chronic illness. The damage to the thymus makes the individual susceptble to any chronic disease. So the suppression removes the immune system's functionality. The disease they get will depend on their innate constitutional type and their environment combined, not the childhood illness they got.
There may be soe kind of a chemotaxic gradient so that cancer cells attract the virus more than a healthy cell. I can not envision a mechanism by which the virus exclusively attacks malignant cells.
No. Viruses usually attack cells by entering them (using one of several virus mechanisms) and replicate to bursting point. There's nothing homeopathic about a virus attacking a cell.
Those that do it, are not interested in whetehr the rest of us wish them to do it.
Just delete if they do.
What has a nosode got to do with viruses or cancer?
WHy should there be a relatonship to a nosode?
If you suspect miasm, and are at that stage of a treatment, you repertorize for a match, surely.
and to other diseases, see APh 141
You are assuming what is not so - there is no homeopathy involved in viruses for cancer and no reason to assume that any nosode is associated with any cancer either.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[John R. Benneth]

The following essay by Carmi Hazen is a very coherent preface into what for me appears to be an amazing insight into what cancer really is. It is the first time I've read an explanation of cancer that makes any sense.

In a message dated 3/11/2015 1:54:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Carmi Hazen minutus@yahoogroups.com writes:
After seeing the documentary about MD Anderson using the measles virus to destroy tumors, in context of
Hahnemann's observations of measles, I've speculated that measles and similar diseases such as smallpox, like tumors, are also mechanisms used by the body to deal with toxins and garbage, and that a virus (meaning venom) is actually the digestive agent of a cryptogen, perhaps bacterium, and what we see as symptomatic disease is a clearing mechanism?
Kent writes about how autopsies have revealed that some people, riddled with internal tumors, lived long lives, and that treatment with too high a potencies in some remedies like hepar, or sulfur could "cut like razors" causing tumors to suppurate and poison the patient to death.
Perhaps by accolade I am running the risk of humbling or scaring Hazen into silence, but this is the second time I've noticed something brilliant from this writer and encourage more.
Who is Carmi Hazen?
John Benneth