possibly off topic cat question

[Sherill]

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.

I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,

Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)

And it is MUCH worse in many countries.

So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.

Namaste,

Irene
--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info

(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Rachel]

i'm not a cat person and i know you're not asking me (!) but if it were me, i'd use Mind, Mania....
________________________________

From: "'Sherill' sherill@ecentral.com [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21 AM
Subject: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.
I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,
Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)
And it is MUCH worse in many countries.
So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Diane]

Sherill,
Although I cannot wait to hear Dr. Irene's response, please forgive me for jumping in with a possible causal thought, if not a remedy solution. Know I'm only a Vet Tech.
Not knowing the cat's full history, e.g., age of weaning, living circumstances, degree of constant food availability back then or not, etc., some animals lick excessively as an emotional self-soothing mechanism. This might be your kitty's case as it seems to be towards people, objects and other animals vs. himself. It may also be a way for him to feel he's bonding and close with others. I suppose cats,can have oral fixations too.

From my limited experience, animals that excessively self-lick certain parts of themselves or things sometimes do it for pain relief, of local or referred origin.

Worms and allergies are other considerations. As you cat seems to be the equal opportunity licker, I'm wondering about the self-soothing aspect.
i'm not a cat person and i know you're not asking me (!) but if it were me, i'd use Mind, Mania....
________________________________

From: "'Sherill' sherill@ecentral.com [minutus]"
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21 AM
Subject: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.
I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,
Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)
And it is MUCH worse in many countries.
So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Sherill]

Thanks Rachael and Diane.
I am open to all comments even as I realize you haven’t met my little guy, Leo. Diane, I am pretty sure that the bonding aspect is there and I think this may be a complicated reaction to circumstances that combines mental, emotional AND physical.
I have given him Lac-felinum, not as a knee jerk reaction but in response to what was likely early weaning and his strong desire for cardboard. I have to hide all boxes or they will be destroyed.
GENERALITIES; FOOD and drinks; paper, desires (1) : lac-f.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:46 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
Sherill,
Although I cannot wait to hear Dr. Irene's response, please forgive me for jumping in with a possible causal thought, if not a remedy solution. Know I'm only a Vet Tech.
Not knowing the cat's full history, e.g., age of weaning, living circumstances, degree of constant food availability back then or not, etc., some animals lick excessively as an emotional self-soothing mechanism. This might be your kitty's case as it seems to be towards people, objects and other animals vs. himself. It may also be a way for him to feel he's bonding and close with others. I suppose cats,can have oral fixations too.
From my limited experience, animals that excessively self-lick certain parts of themselves or things sometimes do it for pain relief, of local or referred origin.
Worms and allergies are other considerations. As you cat seems to be the equal opportunity licker, I'm wondering about the self-soothing aspect.
i'm not a cat person and i know you're not asking me (!) but if it were me, i'd use Mind, Mania....
________________________________

From: "'Sherill' sherill@ecentral.com [minutus]" >
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21 AM
Subject: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.

I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,

Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)

And it is MUCH worse in many countries.

So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.

Namaste,

Irene
--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info

(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Diane]

Sherill, you did not mention whether you had any other pets in the house, how much attention time/activities this cat gets, is he an indoor and/or outdoor cat, or whether or not this cat merely shredded and/or also ingested any of the cardboard boxing. Might you elaborate upon these?
I should also wonder whether he has any other obvious peculiarities or preferences in any way, shape or manner, including foodstuffs, etc?
What is his diet composed of and how many times a day does he eat? Of what, and how much, does he drink?
Have you any labs been run? If so, what are the results? Any diagnoses? Any notable injuries, illnesses, accidents, traumas, vaccinations, etc? What is his general physical, mental and emotional condition?
If mainly mental/emotional (not discounting the physical), does he seem ever able to feel self-secure w/out the external over-licking of others aspect?
Does he lick himself much, and if so, where?
To all you professional Vets and Homeopaths out there...please forgive if I am asking any or all of the wrong questions and understand I am merely curious. I do not wish to overstep my bounds and tread on yours.

Diana
Thanks Rachael and Diane.
I am open to all comments even as I realize you haven’t met my little guy, Leo. Diane, I am pretty sure that the bonding aspect is there and I think this may be a complicated reaction to circumstances that combines mental, emotional AND physical.
I have given him Lac-felinum, not as a knee jerk reaction but in response to what was likely early weaning and his strong desire for cardboard. I have to hide all boxes or they will be destroyed.
GENERALITIES; FOOD and drinks; paper, desires (1) : lac-f.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:46 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
Sherill,
Although I cannot wait to hear Dr. Irene's response, please forgive me for jumping in with a possible causal thought, if not a remedy solution. Know I'm only a Vet Tech.
Not knowing the cat's full history, e.g., age of weaning, living circumstances, degree of constant food availability back then or not, etc., some animals lick excessively as an emotional self-soothing mechanism. This might be your kitty's case as it seems to be towards people, objects and other animals vs. himself. It may also be a way for him to feel he's bonding and close with others. I suppose cats,can have oral fixations too.
From my limited experience, animals that excessively self-lick certain parts of themselves or things sometimes do it for pain relief, of local or referred origin.
Worms and allergies are other considerations. As you cat seems to be the equal opportunity licker, I'm wondering about the self-soothing aspect.

i'm not a cat person and i know you're not asking me (!) but if it were me, i'd use Mind, Mania....
________________________________

From: "'Sherill' sherill@ecentral.com [minutus]" >
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21 AM
Subject: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
CHANGED THE SUBJECT LINE
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.
I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,
Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)
And it is MUCH worse in many countries.
So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Diane]

Sherill, does this cat get brushed, combed, handled much??
Does he only lick and not suckle and/or knead w/toes/nails?
Diana
Sherill, you did not mention whether you had any other pets in the house, how much attention time/activities this cat gets, is he an indoor and/or outdoor cat, or whether or not this cat merely shredded and/or also ingested any of the cardboard boxing. Might you elaborate upon these?
I should also wonder whether he has any other obvious peculiarities or preferences in any way, shape or manner, including foodstuffs, etc?
What is his diet composed of and how many times a day does he eat? Of what, and how much, does he drink?
Have you any labs been run? If so, what are the results? Any diagnoses? Any notable injuries, illnesses, accidents, traumas, vaccinations, etc? What is his general physical, mental and emotional condition?
If mainly mental/emotional (not discounting the physical), does he seem ever able to feel self-secure w/out the external over-licking of others aspect?
Does he lick himself much, and if so, where?
To all you professional Vets and Homeopaths out there...please forgive if I am asking any or all of the wrong questions and understand I am merely curious. I do not wish to overstep my bounds and tread on yours.

Diana
Thanks Rachael and Diane.
I am open to all comments even as I realize you haven’t met my little guy, Leo. Diane, I am pretty sure that the bonding aspect is there and I think this may be a complicated reaction to circumstances that combines mental, emotional AND physical.
I have given him Lac-felinum, not as a knee jerk reaction but in response to what was likely early weaning and his strong desire for cardboard. I have to hide all boxes or they will be destroyed.
GENERALITIES; FOOD and drinks; paper, desires (1) : lac-f.
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:46 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
Sherill,
Although I cannot wait to hear Dr. Irene's response, please forgive me for jumping in with a possible causal thought, if not a remedy solution. Know I'm only a Vet Tech.
Not knowing the cat's full history, e.g., age of weaning, living circumstances, degree of constant food availability back then or not, etc., some animals lick excessively as an emotional self-soothing mechanism. This might be your kitty's case as it seems to be towards people, objects and other animals vs. himself. It may also be a way for him to feel he's bonding and close with others. I suppose cats,can have oral fixations too.
From my limited experience, animals that excessively self-lick certain parts of themselves or things sometimes do it for pain relief, of local or referred origin.
Worms and allergies are other considerations. As you cat seems to be the equal opportunity licker, I'm wondering about the self-soothing aspect.

i'm not a cat person and i know you're not asking me (!) but if it were me, i'd use Mind, Mania....
________________________________

From: "'Sherill' sherill@ecentral.com [minutus]" >
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 11:21 AM
Subject: [Minutus] possibly off topic cat question
CHANGED THE SUBJECT LINE
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:04 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
Hi Irene,
I hope you don’t mind a vet question.
I have a 5 year old male who was born a stray. I found and rescued him at some young “kitten” age and he is now about 5 years old. He licks CONSTANTLY: me, his housemate cats, the floor, etc., in addition to shredding cardboard (extreme) and has even licked a spot out of my drywall. Would you suspect worms? What else might this indicate – if you would be willing to guess?
Thanks,
Sherill
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 1:24 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Speeding up healing
That is why I use a professional to do my patient's remedies....even for a brand new remedy, 1-2 days delay will not harm them at all.
You have the two day option, it is two weeks - too late - here:-)
And it is MUCH worse in many countries.
So one does the best that's available for the situation.
Animal cases tend to require real speed.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Problem is: It will not supply the missing nutrient not remove the toxins if there is one.
I am of the opinion (as was Hahnemann) that there is more to life than a homeopathic remedy.
My work with animals has shown that nutrition (due to despicably poor commercial options with feeding) has to be considered first - then remedies as appropriate.
People have the advatage that they can go shop for food that is appropriate, and they KNOW what food makes them feel good.
Our pets do not have that option and rely on us or (worse) their vets, who may not know anything about feline requirements.
In USA vet schools for example, "free" lessons in carnivore "nutrition" are provided by manufacturer Hills Science Diet.
It seems to me they have Scientfically removed any Dietary decency from anythg they sell, casuing cats to go down Hill. Just read any ingredients list.

So with the symptoms presenting it is more a matter of understanding WHY, than just throwing a remedy at a set of symptoms.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

There are no bounds, opinions are welcoem from all members I am sure:-)
Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Diane]

Thank you, Dr. Irene.
There are no bounds, opinions are welcoem from all members I am sure:-)
Namaste,
Irene

--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Ah, it is just Irene, I do not have a doctorate/medical-license.
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."