Need advice re: bronchitis type symptoms

[Maria Bohle]

Try the China,

My sx have been almost gone for a week, and i can still go into coughing fits occasionally, or if I over do it. I am still sleeping a lot more than usual.
If you have not smoked for a week, might want to consider stopping now that mucg of your withdrawl time has passed. Find something to do with your hands as even if you kick the tobacco habit itself, you still have the behavior to contend with. This whatever it is, hits us in our weakest areas.
One thing about homeopathic medicine, if the remedy eliminates the symptoms, doesn't mean we are 'cured' yet as the remedy is holding the symptoms at bay. All of the behaviors, weakness, vitamin deficiencies, etc that caused the illness are still there and the body needs to repair that before you will be fully back to normal.
Maria

[Maria Bohle]

Cina is wormseed, China is chinchona off. Interesting that it is known for loss of fluids and exhaustion, might be a good remedy for our lifestyle today, go, go, go and push, push push to exhaustion.
My daughter used China on my 3 year old grandbaby and it worked fine.

This is one insidious acute, you are not that sick, but the mucus is choking and glairy, I assumed it is a virus as I did get a low grade fever and heat and chills alternating. Symptoms kept changing, from almost suffocating with the mucus to the overly dry mucus membranes that actually hurt and itched while breathing, for awhile it felt like the roof of my mouth itched as well as my ears. I chased the sx around and then settled on China and most of it finally resolved. Desptite all the mucus it was totally clear throughout, until in the very end my sinuses started draining and that had some pink and some very faint yellowish tinge to a very little of it. That was probably some of the chronic condition it was based on.
At times I would wake up at night choking from the mucus, then blew my nose and two tiny damp spots would appear on the tissue. Feels like a lump in the posterior naires but it would not go down and could not be coughed up nor pulled up nor discharged in any way.
I can see where debilitated people could have some fatal results with this one.

[Maria Bohle]

Where are you located?

I am in NJ, USA, am just wondering how far afield this is.
I have relatives in MA, with it, and friends in PA,
The hospitals are giving something to reduce that sticky mucus, Kali bic worked ok.
Warmly, Maria

[Maria Bohle]

I am with you Rochelle on not treating baby if possible,
If this is that mucus we have been speaking about it is clingy, like egg white and the baby is going to wake up gasping and choking.
I was surprised at the virulence, it takes repeated dosing of the remedies for this one. I am concerned of it mutating into something thicker and even more difficult to detach, as that could have fatal results, we need to watch this one as it is not following a typical course/
I am sure there are other remedies that can help. Felt like an allium cepa for awhile, but I tend to avoid using that remedy as in my experience it can push the problems into the lungs. You cannot cough deep enough to get this mucus out and the windpipe felt like a hollow irritated tube.
Maria

[healthinfo6]

I thought there might be name confusion between Cina and China and checked before taking:
I took Cinchona (China) Officinalis 12C and it definitely helped, not Cina as I wrote.
Many say Zicam helps reduce severity, the OTC homeopathic zinc gluconate 5x but I took zinc as supplement since taking Zicam in X, now China in C and already on Lach LM would mean I'd be on 3 potencies at once, theoretically should work as China C didn't seem to affect Lach LM taken 2 days ago
Hope you're recovering fast!
Susan

[Maria Bohle]

I debated if I should send this, but decided I would.

I know most of you are homeopaths, but for those of you who are not I thought you might benefit from this little article I wrote.
Forgive me for being simplistic, but it is meant to help:

There is a new cold or flu out there with symptoms that seem pretty new to this condition. I have spoken with a lot of people who have been having problems with it. Here is some information and some possible remedies.
As I sat in a heap first thing Monday morning, coughing into the crook of my elbow, my administrative assistant announced, “Hey, there is a new flu out there! It is nothing like the flu we are used to, thick post nasal discharges that cause coughing.” I tried to stifle the cough, the dryness pricked my throat and my eyes started watering, “ Dry throat she went on, almost suffocating.” I wanted to groan but my attention was on the cough reflex, as I took a deep breath it felt like a lump of mucus was caught in my windpipe. I tried to cough it up, but nothing came out. “It feels like loose mucus, but very little comes out.” She continued to read, “Sinuses are congested, and you can get a headache, some people have a fever. A sore throat is often the first sign, certainly a sore chest from all that coughing not to mention the muscles that we can strain while coughing.”

Yes, the fever gives us a clue it is probably the flu. Discharges are clear and sticky, like egg white, there seems to be a lot of fluid in the head, but blowing your nose does not yield much more than a slightly damp tissue.

We are used to seeing thick greenish mucus, nope this one is clear and shiny, and it is uncomfortable. For people with problems breathing, diminished lung capacity or profuse discharges this could be a very dangerous situation. Call 911 at the first sign of labored breathing.
I had been battling with this flu all weekend. I was not particularly sick, but did feel uncomfortable, it was hard to sleep as the fluids were enough to wake me up frequently. Homeopathic Medicine helped a lot, and got me through the worst of this. I am doing quite fine now.
As a homeopath we look at symptoms to find an appropriate remedy for our clients. Here are the remedies I used for this flu, and these are remedies you can use if you find yourself in the same situation. This flu appears to be viral, so modern medicine does not have any antibiotics to help, but they do have lots of emergency room strategies if the situation gets bad.

Gargle with Salt water for the sore throat. It will take some of the mucus out of the throat and help to clear out any bacteria or viruses that may be there. You can use salt water to clear out some of the sinuses also. While I like a very salty gargle, I add much more water to the solution I used to rinse my sinuses and nose. I cup the salt water in my hand and sniff the water through my nose. It will run down into the throat, that is fine, just spit it out, and stuck mucus will come out with the water.

Extra vitamin C, lots of fluids and most importantly REST, is going to be essential.
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES
Here are some safe and effective homeopathic remedies you can use: Homeopathic medicine is safe if used as directed. Never take a homeopathic remedy if you do not have the symptoms the remedy is indicated for. Do not continue to take homeopathic remedies when the symptom you have go away.

Here is an easy way to take these remedies.
Put one pill in a cup of water. Stir that gently and take one teaspoon of the water. Add a piece of plastic wrap to the top of the cup, so you can stir and take another teaspoon as needed. For young children, ½ or ¼ of a teaspoon may be enough.

Note that homeopathic remedies do not have any contraindications, this means they will not conflict with any medicines you are taking or will not made any of your other symptoms worse. Best not take more than one remedy at a time. If you take a remedy and the symptoms change, then you can use another remedy that fits your symptoms better. If the remedy helps you for awhile and the symptoms return, take a little more of the solution.

The following remedies will work very well for this ‘flu’. Of course, everyone is different. DO NOT wait if you feel you or your children are not improving from the remedies or if the condition gets a lot worse, call your doctor or get professional help. If this is an emergency or you are someone is having trouble breathing call 911 immediately.

There may be other remedies that may be a better fit for your symptoms. Call a professional homeopath if you need more help or guidance with remedies for this condition. Please realize professional homeopaths make their living by finding good remedies for people to help them improve their health. Professional charges will apply.

Coughing is a natural way the body rids itself of excess fluids in their lungs. A good ‘natural’ remedy is not going to stop coughing, but it is going to move the illness through your body faster and you should feel better sooner.

Here are the remedies I used for my cold or flu. I did not get better overnight, but the remedies gave me relief right away. I was much more comfortable and did not have to go to the emergency room nor did I need any other medicine.
When you feel ICY COLD, You need ACONITE 30C - this is that chill you just cannot shake. You were out and got chilled, now you are home, under blankets or warmly wrapped up and still feel cold. They used to say this kind of chill happened when you got your feet wet. You know this cold feeling means you are coming down with something. One little pellet of ACONITE and you should warm up in a very short period of time. REST! Homeopathic Medicines will help you with symptoms, you must help yourself by taking it easy, eating nourishing foods, and realizing your immune system is low so do not push it!

Thick, sticky, stringy, glairy mucus: This is the mucus that is so uncomfortable, it is so sticky it is hard to blow out, and is thick enough to stick in your throat or windpipe: The remedy you need is KALI BIC 30C should do nicely.

(PLEASE NOTE, IF YOU TAKE 3 DOSES OF A HOMEOPATHIC REMEDY AND IT DOES NOT WORK, DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE, TRY ANOTHER REMEDY - IF YOU TAKE A DOSE AND IT DOES WORK, YOU CAN TAKE A DOSE AS NEEDED, TRY TO EXTEND THE TIME BETWEEN DOSES IF YOU CAN SO YOU TAKE LESS AND LESS DOSES AS TIME GOES ON.)

KALI BIC is always the remedy for thick, sticky mucus. It often helps us to eliminate that mucus in throat, sinuses or airways.

For that suffocating, spasmodic cough, like you are drowning – DROSSERA 30C can be a big help, it helps to open constricted air passages. Coughing makes you want to cough even more, it is deep, hoarse and choking, you may retch with the coughing.

Do you feel like you are inhaling dust or talcum powder? Is your throat dry and itchy? – SPONGEA TOASTA 30C to the rescue.
Rumex C 30C Lots of mucus seems to be running down your throat into the chest, it feels like a tickle in the windpipe, this tickle seems to go all the way down into the lungs. Cold air makes it much worse, so does touching the throat with your hand, it always seems worse at night.

China off 30C -Exhaustion is supposed to be the main area of this remedy. I am not sure I realized how exhausted I might have been from this, but it worked like a charm. It covered the headache that made my head feel enlarged like all that mucus was stuck in my head. The sneezing that seemed to bring this all on as well as suffocative attacks. Said to be good for suppressed discharges – maybe that is why it worked so well.

I hope you fell better soon and these remedies help you.
Maria T. Bohle, CCH

[healthinfo6]

In NYC and hearing many around are sick but ER pediatric MD I know says hasn't seen much flu
Susan

[Dallen]

I just took China about 10 minutes ago. I'll keep you posted.

I will try very hard to not smoke again. I tried several times to quit using different crutches such as nicotine lozenges, electronic cig, nic patches etc. This is the first time I just stopped without continuing the nicotine. Physically I don't have the urge to smoke but mentally is another story.

Thanks for your insight Maria.

Deb

[Irene de Villiers]

It's rife here in Spokane so it is pretty far and wiude in USA:-)

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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Sherill]

Maria:

While this is simplistic, as you say, I for one appreciate it because simple also equates to clear. I particularly like this topic as it helps track what is going around. Here in Denver, there seem to be two versions. One is as you describe – particularly with the remittent nature. There is an additional version that lasts about 3 days and folks, at first, think they have food poisoning. More of a GI affinity. There is fatigue plus chills, various GI sx, bad headache, and some start with a sore throat. The symptoms are not debilitating.

I think this is interesting that this seemingly viral ailment passes in 3 days. Again it seems atypical –like the other version.
Sherill
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I debated if I should send this, but decided I would.

I know most of you are homeopaths, but for those of you who are not I thought you might benefit from this little article I wrote.

Forgive me for being simplistic, but it is meant to help:

There is a new cold or flu out there with symptoms that seem pretty new to this condition. I have spoken with a lot of people who have been having problems with it. Here is some information and some possible remedies.
As I sat in a heap first thing Monday morning, coughing into the crook of my elbow, my administrative assistant announced, “Hey, there is a new flu out there! It is nothing like the flu we are used to, thick post nasal discharges that cause coughing.” I tried to stifle the cough, the dryness pricked my throat and my eyes started watering, “ Dry throat she went on, almost suffocating.” I wanted to groan but my attention was on the cough reflex, as I took a deep breath it felt like a lump of mucus was caught in my windpipe. I tried to cough it up, but nothing came out. “It feels like loose mucus, but very little comes out.” She continued to read, “Sinuses are congested, and you can get a headache, some people have a fever. A sore throat is often the first sign, certainly a sore chest from all that coughing not to mention the muscles that we can strain while coughing.”

Yes, the fever gives us a clue it is probably the flu. Discharges are clear and sticky, like egg white, there seems to be a lot of fluid in the head, but blowing your nose does not yield much more than a slightly damp tissue.

We are used to seeing thick greenish mucus, nope this one is clear and shiny, and it is uncomfortable. For people with problems breathing, diminished lung capacity or profuse discharges this could be a very dangerous situation. Call 911 at the first sign of labored breathing.
I had been battling with this flu all weekend. I was not particularly sick, but did feel uncomfortable, it was hard to sleep as the fluids were enough to wake me up frequently. Homeopathic Medicine helped a lot, and got me through the worst of this. I am doing quite fine now.
As a homeopath we look at symptoms to find an appropriate remedy for our clients. Here are the remedies I used for this flu, and these are remedies you can use if you find yourself in the same situation. This flu appears to be viral, so modern medicine does not have any antibiotics to help, but they do have lots of emergency room strategies if the situation gets bad.

Gargle with Salt water for the sore throat. It will take some of the mucus out of the throat and help to clear out any bacteria or viruses that may be there. You can use salt water to clear out some of the sinuses also. While I like a very salty gargle, I add much more water to the solution I used to rinse my sinuses and nose. I cup the salt water in my hand and sniff the water through my nose. It will run down into the throat, that is fine, just spit it out, and stuck mucus will come out with the water.

Extra vitamin C, lots of fluids and most importantly REST, is going to be essential.
SAFE AND EFFECTIVE HOMEOPATHIC REMEDIES
Here are some safe and effective homeopathic remedies you can use: Homeopathic medicine is safe if used as directed. Never take a homeopathic remedy if you do not have the symptoms the remedy is indicated for. Do not continue to take homeopathic remedies when the symptom you have go away.

Here is an easy way to take these remedies.
Put one pill in a cup of water. Stir that gently and take one teaspoon of the water. Add a piece of plastic wrap to the top of the cup, so you can stir and take another teaspoon as needed. For young children, ½ or ¼ of a teaspoon may be enough.

Note that homeopathic remedies do not have any contraindications, this means they will not conflict with any medicines you are taking or will not made any of your other symptoms worse. Best not take more than one remedy at a time. If you take a remedy and the symptoms change, then you can use another remedy that fits your symptoms better. If the remedy helps you for awhile and the symptoms return, take a little more of the solution.

The following remedies will work very well for this ‘flu’. Of course, everyone is different. DO NOT wait if you feel you or your children are not improving from the remedies or if the condition gets a lot worse, call your doctor or get professional help. If this is an emergency or you are someone is having trouble breathing call 911 immediately.

There may be other remedies that may be a better fit for your symptoms. Call a professional homeopath if you need more help or guidance with remedies for this condition. Please realize professional homeopaths make their living by finding good remedies for people to help them improve their health. Professional charges will apply.

Coughing is a natural way the body rids itself of excess fluids in their lungs. A good ‘natural’ remedy is not going to stop coughing, but it is going to move the illness through your body faster and you should feel better sooner.

Here are the remedies I used for my cold or flu. I did not get better overnight, but the remedies gave me relief right away. I was much more comfortable and did not have to go to the emergency room nor did I need any other medicine.
When you feel ICY COLD, You need ACONITE 30C - this is that chill you just cannot shake. You were out and got chilled, now you are home, under blankets or warmly wrapped up and still feel cold. They used to say this kind of chill happened when you got your feet wet. You know this cold feeling means you are coming down with something. One little pellet of ACONITE and you should warm up in a very short period of time. REST! Homeopathic Medicines will help you with symptoms, you must help yourself by taking it easy, eating nourishing foods, and realizing your immune system is low so do not push it!

Thick, sticky, stringy, glairy mucus: This is the mucus that is so uncomfortable, it is so sticky it is hard to blow out, and is thick enough to stick in your throat or windpipe: The remedy you need is KALI BIC 30C should do nicely.

(PLEASE NOTE, IF YOU TAKE 3 DOSES OF A HOMEOPATHIC REMEDY AND IT DOES NOT WORK, DO NOT TAKE ANY MORE, TRY ANOTHER REMEDY - IF YOU TAKE A DOSE AND IT DOES WORK, YOU CAN TAKE A DOSE AS NEEDED, TRY TO EXTEND THE TIME BETWEEN DOSES IF YOU CAN SO YOU TAKE LESS AND LESS DOSES AS TIME GOES ON.)

KALI BIC is always the remedy for thick, sticky mucus. It often helps us to eliminate that mucus in throat, sinuses or airways.

For that suffocating, spasmodic cough, like you are drowning – DROSSERA 30C can be a big help, it helps to open constricted air passages. Coughing makes you want to cough even more, it is deep, hoarse and choking, you may retch with the coughing.

Do you feel like you are inhaling dust or talcum powder? Is your throat dry and itchy? – SPONGEA TOASTA 30C to the rescue.
Rumex C 30C Lots of mucus seems to be running down your throat into the chest, it feels like a tickle in the windpipe, this tickle seems to go all the way down into the lungs. Cold air makes it much worse, so does touching the throat with your hand, it always seems worse at night.

China off 30C -Exhaustion is supposed to be the main area of this remedy. I am not sure I realized how exhausted I might have been from this, but it worked like a charm. It covered the headache that made my head feel enlarged like all that mucus was stuck in my head. The sneezing that seemed to bring this all on as well as suffocative attacks. Said to be good for suppressed discharges – maybe that is why it worked so well.

I hope you fell better soon and these remedies help you.
Maria T. Bohle, CCH
I thought there might be name confusion between Cina and China and checked before taking:
I took Cinchona (China) Officinalis 12C and it definitely helped, not Cina as I wrote.
Many say Zicam helps reduce severity, the OTC homeopathic zinc gluconate 5x but I took zinc as supplement since taking Zicam in X, now China in C and already on Lach LM would mean I'd be on 3 potencies at once, theoretically should work as China C didn't seem to affect Lach LM taken 2 days ago
Hope you're recovering fast!
Susan