I've read the literature, I've done the rep'ing, and I've read the reping for China officinalis, and it's all well and good for China . . I have found it to be indicated for all the symptoms listed for it . . and a must for a West African Survival Kit . . and I'd even be all for it as THE ONE REMEDY except that when I rep'd Ebola for symptoms sent to me from a Liberian clinic, China didn't show . . Arsenicum did! China doesn't show for remedies listed for hemorrhagic fever; China doesn't show in historical genus epidemicus i.e. routine treatments for hemorrhagic fever (Banerji) or diathesis (Clarke) and neither does Ars. . . whereas Crotalus-h and Hamamelis do in the hemorrhagic state
Clarke menitons Crot-h for prophylaxis . . and given that Lach. runs neck and neck with China on the symptoms and Crot-h is a snake remedy and virus literally means "venom," and is listed clinically, my choice for the one remedy was Crot-h . . and so I shipped a pound of it to a clinic in Monrovia . .
Now you may say, why'd you do that? Why did you just send them just that one remedy?
Here's the problem as I see it. Getting them to use just one remedy is hard enough. Getting them to use a selection would be impossible. Obviously a bush homeopath in dealing with a case of fever in a rural area is going to be presented with a variety of symptoms that may change during the course of the presentation, and so without presumptions should (in my opinion) deal with symptoms as he sees them in totality at the moment, drawing on a variety of mostly low potency remedies to be used aggressively in concert with one another.
However, we don't have a known operating homeopathic clinic, or even a known lay homeopath in Africa at this time. What we have are what appears to me in Liberia to be, as an example, eight million terrified people who are becoming overwhelmed by quarantine and hopelessness, people who know little if anything about homeopathy or even how to apply it. So there's nobody there who knows how to use a selection of remedies just yet, what remedy for what symptom, rep'ing, potency, repetition, etc. So the question is, without confusing them, what's the ONE remedy to send them? If you had to send them ONE, something for both prevention and cure, what would it be?
Given its historical usage in hemorrhagic fever, the fact that virus means venom; it's totality of key diasthetic symptoms, I chose Crot-h.
So I put my money where my mouth is . . on Crot-h. Is anyone else willing to do that for 40 1/2 drams of China or . . ? Shipping to Monrovia is $195/lb. + 40 1/2 drams Crot-h = $280 total= $480. Throwing sugar pellets at them may be no more effective than throwing rice at a wedding, but we got to try.
I want to send more shipments to other clinics I'm trying to line up, and I would like to eventually send them a variety of remedies.
Can anyone help with funds and fundraising? If it can be arranged, I'll go there and report back what I learn . .
John
PS: More details on Ebola prophylaxis and cure in my next blog at http;//johnbenneth.wordpress.com.
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Hi John
Where shall I send the funds and how?
I want to help you
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Kind regards
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Where shall I send the funds and how?
I want to help you
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Kind regards
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Hi John,
First, bravo for doing something - in the absence of our associations speaking strongly it has been left to the rest of us to try and incohesively fill the gap.
I want to say that first because the rest is going to sound as though I am dousing efforts which is not my intention at all.
I am not convinced that Crot-h hits the mark. The reason why I say this is that an acquaintance sent a load into contacts into Monrovia about 10 weeks ago (it took a month to get there) and didn't hear anything back that was positive - but how well it was distributed and followed up, I'm not sure. If it had been effective I'm sure they would have been asking for more.
The Italian Aid group also sent in supplies to Monrovia around the same time. They are not replying to emails but as Crot-h was the most widely touted remedy, I'm sure it would have been included. Nothing has been heard from them about success so I am assuming otherwise.
The other complicating factor is that the symptoms of this outbreak seem to be very different to earlier Ebola outbreaks. Belladonna does seem to match some of them. If the scuttlebutt that the outbreaks coincided with a dodgy meningococcal vaccination program, that may also lend support to Belladonna for the early symptoms, it being a chief remedy for cerebral involvement.
We do desperately need some contacts on the ground. If you would like to start a KickStarter, I will certainly advertise it around our database and get you and another into the country. For starters, if the skeptics are true to their word, they will be one of the first to donate.
Fran.
First, bravo for doing something - in the absence of our associations speaking strongly it has been left to the rest of us to try and incohesively fill the gap.
I want to say that first because the rest is going to sound as though I am dousing efforts which is not my intention at all.
I am not convinced that Crot-h hits the mark. The reason why I say this is that an acquaintance sent a load into contacts into Monrovia about 10 weeks ago (it took a month to get there) and didn't hear anything back that was positive - but how well it was distributed and followed up, I'm not sure. If it had been effective I'm sure they would have been asking for more.
The Italian Aid group also sent in supplies to Monrovia around the same time. They are not replying to emails but as Crot-h was the most widely touted remedy, I'm sure it would have been included. Nothing has been heard from them about success so I am assuming otherwise.
The other complicating factor is that the symptoms of this outbreak seem to be very different to earlier Ebola outbreaks. Belladonna does seem to match some of them. If the scuttlebutt that the outbreaks coincided with a dodgy meningococcal vaccination program, that may also lend support to Belladonna for the early symptoms, it being a chief remedy for cerebral involvement.
We do desperately need some contacts on the ground. If you would like to start a KickStarter, I will certainly advertise it around our database and get you and another into the country. For starters, if the skeptics are true to their word, they will be one of the first to donate.

Fran.
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Right
which is why I attached the extended repertorization that Roger van Zandvoort did
it covers different scenarios.
I have attached it again in case you didn't see it.
Best,
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Right
which is why I attached the extended repertorization that Roger van Zandvoort did
it covers different scenarios.
I have attached it again in case you didn't see it.
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Hi John,
I have several skeptics offering to fund homeopathic travel to the affected regions. Just say the word and I will put out my hand, especially with this one, asking them for your airfare:
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Hi Fran
I have just seen your petition. Terrific. I doubt that the WHO will
listen no matter how many sign our petition, so I would like to help
by paying for you to go to West Africa to adminster the treatment
yourself to show them how it works. They might take notice then! How
many people do you think we will need to cure to be sure they will
listen? How long will it take for you to organise the treatment? We
are lucky that we wont need to worry about customs for it. I realise
we can work alone, but with travelling that far I, or another
homoeopath could come and help?
I assume that you will need to travel from Australia. Which airport is
nearest to you? I'll check the flights as soon as I hear from you.
Would you be able to go in November? Which dates suit you?
Very best wishes.
Joolz
I have several skeptics offering to fund homeopathic travel to the affected regions. Just say the word and I will put out my hand, especially with this one, asking them for your airfare:
...
Hi Fran
I have just seen your petition. Terrific. I doubt that the WHO will
listen no matter how many sign our petition, so I would like to help
by paying for you to go to West Africa to adminster the treatment
yourself to show them how it works. They might take notice then! How
many people do you think we will need to cure to be sure they will
listen? How long will it take for you to organise the treatment? We
are lucky that we wont need to worry about customs for it. I realise
we can work alone, but with travelling that far I, or another
homoeopath could come and help?
I assume that you will need to travel from Australia. Which airport is
nearest to you? I'll check the flights as soon as I hear from you.
Would you be able to go in November? Which dates suit you?
Very best wishes.
Joolz
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How do you mean?
China is the remedy par excellence in blood loss fevers.
In the repertory it is "loss of fluid" that matters in diseases for which CHina is efficatious. Ebola ha[pp[ens to be one of those - no matter the symptoms the cause of the issue is loss of fluid from the blood. But not bleeding itslef no matter how much it is NAMED hemporrhagic. ALL the experts on the scene agree that the blodd loss is minimal but the FLUID loss is deadly.
Few remedies are so strong on fluid loss as CHina.
How is that relevant?
There is no historical Ebola.
WHat there is as a guiding disease is the one in animals that has the closest symptom picture to Ebola, namely feline infectious peritonitis = FIP (which has nothing to do with peritonitis so do not go by the name.) This disease causes death the same way Ebola does, by leaking out the FLUID from the blood stream, leaving cells only in the blood vessels to clog, clot and prevent circulation and cause death.
FIP has at least a dozen possible remedies that work well for many cases but none that covers as many cases as does China. The KEY is the loss of fluid from the bloodstream.
Except hemorrhage is a minor effect inEbola.
BUT CHINA HAS:
GENERALS - DEATH APPARENT
GENERALS - DEATH APPARENT - hemorrhage; after
GENERALS - DISCHARGES - bloody - streaked
GENERALS - DISORDERED STOMACH - complaints from
GENERALS - DOUBLING UP of the body
GENERALS - DRY sensation - Internal parts; in
GENERALS - DRYNESS of usually moist internal parts
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - hemorrhages; from
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - coldness
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - Ear; noises in
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - ringing in ears
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - sight; loss of
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - agg.
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - black
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - bright red
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clots
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clots - dark
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clotting - quickly
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - dark
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - non-coagulable
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - offensive
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - thick
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - thin
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - Internally
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - orifices of the body, from
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - passive, oozing
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - slight hemorrhage - agg.
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - tendency to
HEMORRHAGE is an effect in China - but not as majojr as the true issue of fluid loss.
FIP also has its obvious symptoms - but always the remedy to use that works, is the one thsat addresses the deepest death causative issues as a major feature of the remedy - plus the rest..
It is a big mistake to concentrate on hemorrhage just becasue the sight of a little blood scares people, being bright red and all.
China has a long list of GENERALS- CIRCULATION-COMPLAINTS OF THE BLOOD - ETC remedies
And it has the most LOSS OF FLUID relevant remedies that happen to match symptoms seen in Ebola.
Of what?
Snake remedies have to do with blood leaking into the tissues - which is NOT what happens oin Ebola.
AS the scientists put it - the fluid compartments change.
The FLUID (not blood, at least not much of it) is leaked out of the circulation and into the surrounding tissues
In sakebite responses (as I have seen in such detail being from South Afrcia where there are so many snakes that cause blood into the tissues) - the entire body turns into a blood filled sac, with purple and blue and black
looking skin.
In EBola there is a little bood in the fluids, it is not the entire body with blood. There are too many blood cells still inside the blodd vessels - enough to cause DIC, which is not a snake bleeding feature.
Not really.
China has but not LAch, the following relevant symptoms:
MIND - CONFUSION of mind - intoxicated - as after being
MIND - IRRITABILITY - weakness - with
MIND - MEMORY - weakness of memory - loss of vital fluids; from
HEAD - FLUIDS agg.; loss of vital
STOMACH - PAIN - clawing pain.....THIS IS PECULIAR AND SPECIFIC TO EBOLA
STOMACH - PAIN - fluids; after loss of........and this too as its cause
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys - accompanied by - hypotension......and this deadly item
EXPECTORATION - BLOODY - fluids; after loss of vital...........and this
CHEST - INFLAMMATION - Lungs - weakness, from loss of fluids
CHEST - LOSS of fluids agg.
FEVER - CHILL; with
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - fluids; after loss of
GENERALS - NECROSIS..............a major cause of death and missing in lach
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - acute diseases - during
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - loss of fluids; from
It does not matter that histporically viruses were named after venom. you surely are not suggesting THAT is relevant?
I am sure it will be better tan nothing, and will helpo some cases.
But it lacks (which China has)
MIND - CONFUSION of mind - intoxicated - as after being
MIND - DELIRIUM - loss of fluids, from
MIND - IRRITABILITY - weakness - with
MIND - MEMORY - weakness of memory - loss of vital fluids; from
HEAD - FLUIDS agg.; loss of vital
THROAT - PHARYNX; complaints of
STOMACH - PAIN - clawing pain........again the Ebola victims writhe in stomach pain when dying
STOMACH - PAIN - fluids; after loss of
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys - accompanied by - hypotension......critical
EXPECTORATION - BLOODY - fluids; after loss of vital
CHEST - INFLAMMATION - Lungs - weakness, from loss of fluids
CHEST - LOSS of fluids agg.
FEVER - CHILL; with
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - fluids; after loss of
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - Mucous membranes, from
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - acute diseases - during
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - loss of fluids; from
China
It also is best for other things there like Malaria:-)
I admire your ACTION
If you can set up a way for peope to donate anonymously so nobody is attacked for paying for unapproved sugar pill placebos, that may help.
Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
China is the remedy par excellence in blood loss fevers.
In the repertory it is "loss of fluid" that matters in diseases for which CHina is efficatious. Ebola ha[pp[ens to be one of those - no matter the symptoms the cause of the issue is loss of fluid from the blood. But not bleeding itslef no matter how much it is NAMED hemporrhagic. ALL the experts on the scene agree that the blodd loss is minimal but the FLUID loss is deadly.
Few remedies are so strong on fluid loss as CHina.
How is that relevant?
There is no historical Ebola.
WHat there is as a guiding disease is the one in animals that has the closest symptom picture to Ebola, namely feline infectious peritonitis = FIP (which has nothing to do with peritonitis so do not go by the name.) This disease causes death the same way Ebola does, by leaking out the FLUID from the blood stream, leaving cells only in the blood vessels to clog, clot and prevent circulation and cause death.
FIP has at least a dozen possible remedies that work well for many cases but none that covers as many cases as does China. The KEY is the loss of fluid from the bloodstream.
Except hemorrhage is a minor effect inEbola.
BUT CHINA HAS:
GENERALS - DEATH APPARENT
GENERALS - DEATH APPARENT - hemorrhage; after
GENERALS - DISCHARGES - bloody - streaked
GENERALS - DISORDERED STOMACH - complaints from
GENERALS - DOUBLING UP of the body
GENERALS - DRY sensation - Internal parts; in
GENERALS - DRYNESS of usually moist internal parts
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - hemorrhages; from
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - coldness
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - Ear; noises in
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - ringing in ears
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - accompanied by - sight; loss of
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - agg.
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - black
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - bright red
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clots
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clots - dark
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - clotting - quickly
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - dark
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - non-coagulable
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - offensive
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - thick
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - blood - thin
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - Internally
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - orifices of the body, from
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - passive, oozing
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - slight hemorrhage - agg.
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - tendency to
HEMORRHAGE is an effect in China - but not as majojr as the true issue of fluid loss.
FIP also has its obvious symptoms - but always the remedy to use that works, is the one thsat addresses the deepest death causative issues as a major feature of the remedy - plus the rest..
It is a big mistake to concentrate on hemorrhage just becasue the sight of a little blood scares people, being bright red and all.
China has a long list of GENERALS- CIRCULATION-COMPLAINTS OF THE BLOOD - ETC remedies
And it has the most LOSS OF FLUID relevant remedies that happen to match symptoms seen in Ebola.
Of what?
Snake remedies have to do with blood leaking into the tissues - which is NOT what happens oin Ebola.
AS the scientists put it - the fluid compartments change.
The FLUID (not blood, at least not much of it) is leaked out of the circulation and into the surrounding tissues
In sakebite responses (as I have seen in such detail being from South Afrcia where there are so many snakes that cause blood into the tissues) - the entire body turns into a blood filled sac, with purple and blue and black
looking skin.
In EBola there is a little bood in the fluids, it is not the entire body with blood. There are too many blood cells still inside the blodd vessels - enough to cause DIC, which is not a snake bleeding feature.
Not really.
China has but not LAch, the following relevant symptoms:
MIND - CONFUSION of mind - intoxicated - as after being
MIND - IRRITABILITY - weakness - with
MIND - MEMORY - weakness of memory - loss of vital fluids; from
HEAD - FLUIDS agg.; loss of vital
STOMACH - PAIN - clawing pain.....THIS IS PECULIAR AND SPECIFIC TO EBOLA
STOMACH - PAIN - fluids; after loss of........and this too as its cause
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys - accompanied by - hypotension......and this deadly item
EXPECTORATION - BLOODY - fluids; after loss of vital...........and this
CHEST - INFLAMMATION - Lungs - weakness, from loss of fluids
CHEST - LOSS of fluids agg.
FEVER - CHILL; with
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - fluids; after loss of
GENERALS - NECROSIS..............a major cause of death and missing in lach
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - acute diseases - during
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - loss of fluids; from
It does not matter that histporically viruses were named after venom. you surely are not suggesting THAT is relevant?
I am sure it will be better tan nothing, and will helpo some cases.
But it lacks (which China has)
MIND - CONFUSION of mind - intoxicated - as after being
MIND - DELIRIUM - loss of fluids, from
MIND - IRRITABILITY - weakness - with
MIND - MEMORY - weakness of memory - loss of vital fluids; from
HEAD - FLUIDS agg.; loss of vital
THROAT - PHARYNX; complaints of
STOMACH - PAIN - clawing pain........again the Ebola victims writhe in stomach pain when dying
STOMACH - PAIN - fluids; after loss of
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys
KIDNEYS - COMPLAINTS of kidneys - accompanied by - hypotension......critical
EXPECTORATION - BLOODY - fluids; after loss of vital
CHEST - INFLAMMATION - Lungs - weakness, from loss of fluids
CHEST - LOSS of fluids agg.
FEVER - CHILL; with
GENERALS - FAINTNESS - fluids; after loss of
GENERALS - HEMORRHAGE - Mucous membranes, from
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - acute diseases - during
GENERALS - WEAKNESS - loss of fluids; from
China

It also is best for other things there like Malaria:-)
I admire your ACTION
If you can set up a way for peope to donate anonymously so nobody is attacked for paying for unapproved sugar pill placebos, that may help.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."