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I went with 10M because (1) such a very deep "level" of disorder; and (2) she was very young, and honestly (my thinking ran) she needed to either heal, or die. If the remedy *didn't* help her, both very deeply and very quickly, she would die soon enough, either of pneumonia or of "mercy killing." She'd been given to us to help *if we could*, because her owners (a commercial dairy farm, friends of ours) didn't know any way to help her. So my greater risk would have been from dosing too low, rather than too high.
I have to say, though, I really didn't know what to expect, and though I thought of the remedy early, I tried "everything else I could think of" first, to no effect, which made this even more of a delightful surprise to me.
I think Syph is normally used high in any case, because of what it is, so probably wouldn't have gone lower than 1M in any case.
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How do you mean, the case went from Plat to Puls -- you mean after dosing with Plat, the picture changed to Puls? (And has Puls been effective, or not yet given?)
Assuming you're correct in the change of state, the Puls could be a "layer", or part of a zig-zag toward cure, or other possibilities. If Puls helps *part* of the case but does not help the spinal deterioration, it could be appropriate to treat on basis of the greater "to be cured" need; following the directions for treating a "complex case" per Organon?
Shannon
I have to say, though, I really didn't know what to expect, and though I thought of the remedy early, I tried "everything else I could think of" first, to no effect, which made this even more of a delightful surprise to me.
I think Syph is normally used high in any case, because of what it is, so probably wouldn't have gone lower than 1M in any case.
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How do you mean, the case went from Plat to Puls -- you mean after dosing with Plat, the picture changed to Puls? (And has Puls been effective, or not yet given?)
Assuming you're correct in the change of state, the Puls could be a "layer", or part of a zig-zag toward cure, or other possibilities. If Puls helps *part* of the case but does not help the spinal deterioration, it could be appropriate to treat on basis of the greater "to be cured" need; following the directions for treating a "complex case" per Organon?
Shannon
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And I find it interesting how Syphilinum, of which the symptoms or genetic changes are meant to be caused by poorly treated syphilis in forebears, also shows up in animals.
Do they have their own syphilis-like infection or ....
I know a remedy can treat any symptom cluster if the match is there but I still wonder how that predisposition in an animal first occurred.
Fran.
Do they have their own syphilis-like infection or ....
I know a remedy can treat any symptom cluster if the match is there but I still wonder how that predisposition in an animal first occurred.
Fran.
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It makes sense that a medicine could have this effect while the bones are still developing; it's good to hear of confirmation that Syphilinum seems to have done so!
Skull shape is somewhat influenced by muscles, but less so within an individual than by successful selection from generation to generation. It's inferrable that the curative effect of a medicine here would lie largely in correcting the genetic "program", or recipe, that determines the sequence of growth spurts in bone and surrounding tissues.
From memory of something I read long ago, syphilis entered the human reservoir from a non-human animal one originally, and was evidently brought back from the New World by one or more on Columbus's exploratory ship.
Repeated doses (in unchanging potency) of a deep-acting medicine might induce a tenacious medicinal illness, as careless dosing with Thuja has been known to do; but I hold strong doubts that a single dose, in a year, of Syphilinum at any (reasonably high) potency could induce a "mercy" (or any other kind of) killing.
Kent used to warn against careless use of high potencies (higher than 200c) of deep-acting antipsoric medicines (particularly Sil.) in possible cases of pulmonary T.B., for their ability to cause the organism to open encapsulated tubercules, reactivating the tuberculosis to the detriment of the patient. But, assuming that his warning was sound, that is the only kind of case I know of in which the medicine might reactivate a potentially lethal process. (Has anybody encountered other kinds?) And we might bear in mind even in relation to such a case that, at the end of the nineteenth century, the virulence of the tuberculosis bacillus (and of many other microorganisms, including those connected with scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough, measles, and tetanus) was due principally to (a) poor nutrition -- especially low vitamin C status -- and (b) poor access to sunlight, in cities whose architecture ignored that consideration and whose coal and other highly polluting industries directly affected the cities' already poorly nourished.
Cheers --
John
Skull shape is somewhat influenced by muscles, but less so within an individual than by successful selection from generation to generation. It's inferrable that the curative effect of a medicine here would lie largely in correcting the genetic "program", or recipe, that determines the sequence of growth spurts in bone and surrounding tissues.
From memory of something I read long ago, syphilis entered the human reservoir from a non-human animal one originally, and was evidently brought back from the New World by one or more on Columbus's exploratory ship.
Repeated doses (in unchanging potency) of a deep-acting medicine might induce a tenacious medicinal illness, as careless dosing with Thuja has been known to do; but I hold strong doubts that a single dose, in a year, of Syphilinum at any (reasonably high) potency could induce a "mercy" (or any other kind of) killing.
Kent used to warn against careless use of high potencies (higher than 200c) of deep-acting antipsoric medicines (particularly Sil.) in possible cases of pulmonary T.B., for their ability to cause the organism to open encapsulated tubercules, reactivating the tuberculosis to the detriment of the patient. But, assuming that his warning was sound, that is the only kind of case I know of in which the medicine might reactivate a potentially lethal process. (Has anybody encountered other kinds?) And we might bear in mind even in relation to such a case that, at the end of the nineteenth century, the virulence of the tuberculosis bacillus (and of many other microorganisms, including those connected with scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough, measles, and tetanus) was due principally to (a) poor nutrition -- especially low vitamin C status -- and (b) poor access to sunlight, in cities whose architecture ignored that consideration and whose coal and other highly polluting industries directly affected the cities' already poorly nourished.
Cheers --
John
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Boy I had wondered that too!
But then, I thought, on the other hand… Maybe it's not necessarily as simple as that; maybe this is another instance of "similarity" rather than "identicum."
- E.g. my daughter's first "miracle remedy" was Lyssin -- but there is no history of anything involving rabies, that I know of, in our family; and in any case how would one *survive* rabies in order to pass on the miasm?
- and e.g., although I know this is not miasm in the same way, when someone needs Sepia, we do not assume any connection (other than symptom similarity) with squid ink -- and etc.
And so (I thought), I don't need to assume that this poor calf's forebears were exposed to human syphilis; but that *some* factor simply created similar effect. Maybe something like inbreeding, or maternal age or weakness, or chemical exposure, or …?
Shannon
But then, I thought, on the other hand… Maybe it's not necessarily as simple as that; maybe this is another instance of "similarity" rather than "identicum."
- E.g. my daughter's first "miracle remedy" was Lyssin -- but there is no history of anything involving rabies, that I know of, in our family; and in any case how would one *survive* rabies in order to pass on the miasm?
- and e.g., although I know this is not miasm in the same way, when someone needs Sepia, we do not assume any connection (other than symptom similarity) with squid ink -- and etc.
And so (I thought), I don't need to assume that this poor calf's forebears were exposed to human syphilis; but that *some* factor simply created similar effect. Maybe something like inbreeding, or maternal age or weakness, or chemical exposure, or …?
Shannon
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Ah, so sorry!!! I didn't mean to say that. I meant to say that if the poor thing could not get stronger -- and stop relapsing into pneumonia -- she would not live. I did *not* mean to say I thought the remedy would kill her.
Shannon
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A little more on syphilis:
World wide, incidence is increasing. The disease is easily transmitted to a developing foetus via the placenta, something increasingly occurring even in the U.S.
See, for instance, .
There has been much consideration in the past few years of whether the organism causing syphilis may have existed in pre-Columban Europe.
Consideration of that possibility comes, in large part, of having found diagnostic lesions in apparently pre-Columban skeletons, all from the coast. Evidently, though, a phenomenon called the “marine reservoir effect”, in which “old carbon” upwelling from deep ocean waters can find its way, via seafood, into coastal dwellers, can make carbon-dated skeletal remains appear older than they are. And analysis of these apparently older skeletons that takes into account how much seafood their former owners consumed shows that they were not pre-Columban (http://www.livescience.com/17643-columb ... urope.html).
So present opinion still favours the Columban origin, but the story of the evolution of the causative organism, Trepanoma pallidum, is one that scientists are still uncovering, and with difficulty (http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2008/ ... m-columbus; http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles. ... en-and-Now; and http://blogs.bmj.com/sti/2012/01/31/did ... considered).
Cheers --
John
World wide, incidence is increasing. The disease is easily transmitted to a developing foetus via the placenta, something increasingly occurring even in the U.S.
See, for instance, .
There has been much consideration in the past few years of whether the organism causing syphilis may have existed in pre-Columban Europe.
Consideration of that possibility comes, in large part, of having found diagnostic lesions in apparently pre-Columban skeletons, all from the coast. Evidently, though, a phenomenon called the “marine reservoir effect”, in which “old carbon” upwelling from deep ocean waters can find its way, via seafood, into coastal dwellers, can make carbon-dated skeletal remains appear older than they are. And analysis of these apparently older skeletons that takes into account how much seafood their former owners consumed shows that they were not pre-Columban (http://www.livescience.com/17643-columb ... urope.html).
So present opinion still favours the Columban origin, but the story of the evolution of the causative organism, Trepanoma pallidum, is one that scientists are still uncovering, and with difficulty (http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2008/ ... m-columbus; http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles. ... en-and-Now; and http://blogs.bmj.com/sti/2012/01/31/did ... considered).
Cheers --
John
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John's comment that syphilis may have entered the human population via an animal source is interesting.
Any further info on that John?
I know books on "syphiology" were written when it was a newly emerging disease. I didn't research the subject but was told that it was well-recognised that offspring of parents who had syphilis went on to develop distinctive facial features not seen before and these books were in part a study of this phenonema .. and that we're not aware of them today because they are well mixed through the population.
Any further info on that John?
I know books on "syphiology" were written when it was a newly emerging disease. I didn't research the subject but was told that it was well-recognised that offspring of parents who had syphilis went on to develop distinctive facial features not seen before and these books were in part a study of this phenonema .. and that we're not aware of them today because they are well mixed through the population.
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John's comment that syphilis may have entered the human population via an animal source is interesting.
Any further info on that John?
"Some zoophiles and researchers draw a distinction between "zoophilia" and "bestiality", using the former to describe the desire to form sexual relationships with animals, and the latter to describe the sex acts alone
The Kinsey reports rated the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women, and claimed it was 40–50% in people living near farms
Instances of this behavior have been found in the Bible.[45] In a cave painting from at least 8000 BC in the Northern Italian Val Camonica a man is shown about to penetrate an animal
Masters feels that in antiquity bestiality was widespread, and believed it was often incorporated into religious ritual. He believes it to have taken place in ancient Egypt, claiming that the zoomorphic forms of Ancient Egyptian gods ensures that bestiality would have been part of their rites.[52] There is no evidence that the presence of gods with zoomorphic attributes ensures this in itself. However, Pindar, Herodotus, and Plutarch claimed the Egyptians engaged in ritual congress with goats"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia#Bestiality
Any further info on that John?
"Some zoophiles and researchers draw a distinction between "zoophilia" and "bestiality", using the former to describe the desire to form sexual relationships with animals, and the latter to describe the sex acts alone
The Kinsey reports rated the percentage of people who had sexual interaction with animals at some point in their lives as 8% for men and 3.6% for women, and claimed it was 40–50% in people living near farms
Instances of this behavior have been found in the Bible.[45] In a cave painting from at least 8000 BC in the Northern Italian Val Camonica a man is shown about to penetrate an animal
Masters feels that in antiquity bestiality was widespread, and believed it was often incorporated into religious ritual. He believes it to have taken place in ancient Egypt, claiming that the zoomorphic forms of Ancient Egyptian gods ensures that bestiality would have been part of their rites.[52] There is no evidence that the presence of gods with zoomorphic attributes ensures this in itself. However, Pindar, Herodotus, and Plutarch claimed the Egyptians engaged in ritual congress with goats"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia#Bestiality
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Only that one subspecies, Trepanoma pallidum pertenue, which causes yaws, is found in baboons, gorillas, and chimpanzees, and that several subspecies (the ones causing syphilis, yaws, and bejel) are known to exist in at least one non-human ape: wild olive baboons, Papio anubi).
That doesn't particularly help in resolving the conjecture as to syphilis's origin in the New World, though, as humans are (as far as I know) the only apes to have been there by the fifteenth century.
Cheers!
John
That doesn't particularly help in resolving the conjecture as to syphilis's origin in the New World, though, as humans are (as far as I know) the only apes to have been there by the fifteenth century.
Cheers!
John