Talking about Stramonium (Was: dosage question)

[Fran Sheffield]

Has anyone had any experiences in treating adults with Stramonium?

I ask because I had an experience in which I needed it some years back.

I had to go for surgery that was quite invasive and it was done under a spinal block and with Rohypnol (which is meant to remove the memory of the event).

I can remember "coming to" in the ward and being quite hostile to the staff looking after me - everything felt as if I was being hurt or attacked and I reacted accordingly.

Though it lessened, I was still in the same mental state for the next week while in hospital. It literally was the most horrible time of my life. I felt anxious, frightened and terribly alone, and was frequently in tears. I would be on the phone begging my husband to come and be with me because I felt so alone in a hostile environment. I perceived everyone as being unsympathetic or uncaring toward me and it affected me greatly.

I was a little better during the day but as dusk came, a horrible dread and anguish came over me - it is hard to put into words exactly how horrible and inexplicable it was.

On coming home, the dusk-time dread continued and overall I was very emotional, needy, and clingy with my family. It was a very pronounced state - so severe, I felt death would be preferable. These feelings were completely out of character for me and my family was at a loss with what to do for me.

I took Pulsatilla as it seemed to cover the symptoms well (even the dusk-time dread) but it did nothing. I kept looking at Stram but as I had never needed it in the past, kept looking moving past it.

When I did eventually take it, after having run out of all other options, the change was incredible. From the first dose, that evening dread disappeared and I started to get my act together again.

The state was so intense that it still brings tears to my eyes whenever I talk about it but I have frequently wondered what pushed me into a Stram state. Even though I have no memory of surgery, perhaps my body retained the impact of what happened to me?

Ever since, I have great empathy for any child or adult who needs Stram. It is a horrible, uncontrollable feeling.

Kind regards, Fran.

[healthinfo6]

Rohypnol is known as the date rape drug because it causes amnesia and is known to be put into drinks at bars, colleges, etc., it's tasteless so not detected.
It has many types of side effects including suicide and likely put you in that state.
It is an illegal drug in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flunitrazepam
Susan

[Rachel]

your personal commentary is really interesting, Fran. i have a kid on Stramonium. thank you for sharing.

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Rohypnol is known as the date rape drug because it causes amnesia and is known to be put into drinks at bars, colleges, etc., it's tasteless so not detected.
It has many types of side effects including suicide and likely put you in that state.
It is an illegal drug in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flunitrazepam
Susan

[Tanya Marquette]

Thank you so much for sharing Fran. It sounds really horrible, but gives the rest of us such a personal sense of the remedy.

tanya

[Fran Sheffield]

Yes, I know of Rohypnol's reputation but I don't think it was the direct cause of the state.

I wasn't suicidal but dread and anguish at having to live with the state I was in would be a better description. Who knows, maybe it would reach the point of becoming suicidal - Stram is rated a 2 for that.

I was scheduled for followup surgery some months later and I was in dread and fear about that as well. I took Stram in the lead-up to the Surgery (which was again by block and Rohypnol) and had a completely different experience. I recovered quickly, felt happy, had was looked after by wonderful staff ... or perhaps it was my improved perception?

I'm inclined to thick that at some level during the surgery, my body or psyche felt attacked or "devoured by wild animals" as that classic Stram rubric states. I have wondered if the block was not completely effective but the Rohypnol removed the conscious memory of what happened.

Kind regards,

Fran.

[Irene de Villiers]

I strongly suspect you are right on the money with this.
It is kown that we have cellar memeory of childhood traumas so why not other celllar memeory.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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[Bob Needham]

Yes, I suspect so too. I have memories while at U of Waterloo, many moons ago about studies finding that the same chemical reactions which were observed in the brain were also found in cells, which if my memory serves me correct, involved ATP in the process. It was as if the body is one giant memory bank with the brain acting as the hardware to direct instructions to the software of organs, muscles etc and the experiences of these organs could be fed back the the brains hard drive; so why not Fran.

bob

[Shannon Nelson]

Thanks so much for that vivid description!
For me it really adds dimension to my picture of that remedy, very much appreciated.
Shannon

[yerewan]

Vithoulkas's views on Stram

Will

[Dale Moss]

You've described the Stram. state so eloquently, Fran! I have vivid memories of treating a young man with Stram. many years ago. He was a brilliant but profoundly disturbed person who'd endured a lot of violence in his family. He moved with exceptional grace (advanced training in an esoteric martial art or nature?), was capable of withdrawals that verged on catatonia, and was quite comfortable in the dark. When he told me in excruciating detail how he planned to kill himself, with all sorts of back-up plans if the first failed, I knew there wasn't time to waste.
Fortunately, I thought I saw the remedy clearly (it was early in my career). I think I gave him a 1M, and it profoundly changed him. Unfortunately, I didn't see it as his constitutional at the time, though I'm sure in retrospect it was. When I studied the remedy with Mangialavori, I had the sense of seeing not only the man's past, but also his future. It's not a pretty picture.
Peace,
Dale