has anyone prescribed successfully mancinella with strong mentals, viz the
fear of death, seeing spirits...how would you dd with stramonium?
andrew
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vtyekkirala
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Re: mancinella
Hi,
Mancinella
(Hippomane-Manganeel Apple)
* Skin symptoms most marked.
* Dermatitis, with excessive vesiculation, oozing of sticky serum and
formation of crusts.
* To be remembered in mental depressed states at puberty and at
climacteric, with exalted sexuality. [Hering.]
* Loss of vision.
* Pain in the thumb.
Mind
- Silent mood, sadness.
- Wandering thoughts.
- Sudden vanishing of thought.
- Bashful.
- Fear of becoming insane.
A great thirst for cold water with inability to swallow, on account of the
choking sensation, is of no less importance.
This aggravation from the drinking of cold water may be considered the
leading symptom of this remedy.
The following are a few other important indications of Mancinella :-
Sudden vanishing of thought, forgets from one moment to next what she
vishes to do.
Fear of getting crazy; of evil spirits; of being taken away by the devil.
Following is from an interesting case treated with manc by GEUKENS.
Mancinella
WOMAN, 35 YEARS OLD
" This is a very interesting case, where you can prescribe one remedy after
the other, without finding the right remedy. By chance I found this remedy.
I was in London and I studied the remedy there. When I study a remedy, I
read about it in Kent, if he has written something about it, Clarke and
Boericke. I read these three authors after each other and I try to
understand it in general. I had just studied this remedy in detail and I had
to do a supervision. There, I saw that this remedy which I had studied was
needed. So, I found this remedy in a supervision. I think the cosmos gives
us the right impulse, the right information when we do for Homoeopathy what
we can. We do not need to work to strenuously, we have to be open, then the
information comes suddenly. That is the best way to do Homoeopathy, not to
push too much forwards....
.... .... .... ....
Often I have seen, that it is difficult when people with a paper-case come
to supervision. I experienced it once when a student came - he had worked
out the case and read everything he wrote down - in our centre the
supervisors have to accompany the learning doctor and have a look at the
patients and examine whether the things written down are all right. It has
occurred frequently that the student comes and says that the patient needs
this remedy. When we have a look at the patients the picture changes
completely. You see, "No, it can't be that remedy. It is impossible
Pulsatilla, it is impossible Phosphorus", and then we have to see which
remedy it could be. Then you have a conversation with those patients and
there appears a completely different remedy, very strange.
Therefore it is very dangerous to prescribe only on the basis of notes of
other people. Please, do not accuse the supervisor, when his prescription is
wrong. This only happens when you did not make a good anamnesis. You can
only pass the information that you have asked from the patient and someone
else can only sustain his prescription on that. That is not good.
So, the anxiety to become insane became her main problem. She was
frightened to loose her mind. "Fear of insanity" (p. 45). Here, there are 4
capital remedies. When a symptom has been given very strongly by the
patient, then you have to find this symptom capital. There we have Calcarea,
Cannabis indica, Mancinella and Pulsatilla. These are the 4 main remedies in
this rubric. ... .... ...."
end>
MANC is present in 3rd degree (BOLD) in fear of death
while stram is in 1st degree.
Stram is present in the following, but not manc.
MIND - DEATH - desires
MIND - DEATH - presentiment of
MIND - DEATH - thoughts of
MIND - FEAR - death, of - abortion; in
Following delusions and fears are common to both manc and stram.
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - floating - air, in
MIND - DELUSIONS - hearing - illusions of
MIND - DELUSIONS - light [= low weight] - is light; he
MIND - DELUSIONS - persecuted - he is persecuted
MIND - DELUSIONS - possessed; being
MIND - DELUSIONS - pursued; he was
MIND - DELUSIONS - voices - hearing
MIND - FEAR - night
MIND - FEAR - dark, of
MIND - FEAR - delusions; fear from
MIND - FEAR - ghosts, of
MIND - FEAR - high places, of
MIND - FEAR - narrow place, in
Following are rubrics having manc with other remedies but not stram.
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - after her; is
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - taken by the devil; he will be
MIND - DELUSIONS - flying
MIND - DELUSIONS - insane - become insane; he/she will
MIND - DELUSIONS - light [= low weight] - float; he was so light he could
MIND - DELUSIONS - possessed; being - evil forces; by
MIND - DELUSIONS - smell, of
MIND - DELUSIONS - swimming, is - air, in the
MIND - FEAR - night - midnight
MIND - FEAR - aliens; of
MIND - FEAR - cancer; of
MIND - FEAR - cockroaches; of
MIND - FEAR - devil, of being taken by the
MIND - FEAR - devils, of
MIND - FEAR - evil; fear of - possessed by evil; they are
MIND - FEAR - homosexuality; of
MIND - FEAR - insanity - night
MIND - FEAR - killing, of - child; her
MIND - FEAR - Martians; of
MIND - FEAR - menses - during
MIND - FEAR - moral obliquity
MIND - FEAR - sin; of
Following delusions and fears are exclusive to Stram alone.
MIND - DELUSIONS - alone, being - wilderness; alone in a
MIND - DELUSIONS - animals - jumping - out of the ground
MIND - DELUSIONS - beautiful - she is beautiful and wants to be
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - creases; bed is full of
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - drawn from under her
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - falling - on her
MIND - DELUSIONS - catches - people, at
MIND - DELUSIONS - corners - people coming out of; sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - creeping things; full of
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - attack him
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - barks at them to be understood; others are dogs,
he
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - biting his chest
MIND - DELUSIONS - executioner; visions of an
MIND - DELUSIONS - faces, sees - elongated
MIND - DELUSIONS - fire - balls of fire were rolling over bedclothes
MIND - DELUSIONS - fire - room is on
MIND - DELUSIONS - fowls, sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - friend - never seen his friends; he had - walking; after
MIND - DELUSIONS - God - he is God, then he is the devil
MIND - DELUSIONS - hat is a pair of trousers which he tries to put on
MIND - DELUSIONS - head - disease will break out of head
MIND - DELUSIONS - honest - not honest; is
MIND - DELUSIONS - images, phantoms; sees - rising out of the earth
MIND - DELUSIONS - images, phantoms; sees - side; at his
MIND - DELUSIONS - inconsolable; being
MIND - DELUSIONS - jealousy - lovers concealed behind stove; wife has
MIND - DELUSIONS - joy - nothing could give her any joy
MIND - DELUSIONS - limbs - no limbs; she had
MIND - DELUSIONS - lying - crosswise
MIND - DELUSIONS - murdered - being murdered; he is - roasted and eaten; he
was murdered
MIND - DELUSIONS - objects; about
MIND - DELUSIONS - objects; about - flight away from objects
MIND - DELUSIONS - obscene
MIND - DELUSIONS - people - seeing people - seize them; a number of
strangers and tries to
MIND - DELUSIONS - position; she is not fitted for her
MIND - DELUSIONS - rabbits, sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - seeking - something; he is seeking
MIND - DELUSIONS - side - alive on one and buried on the other; he is
MIND - DELUSIONS - small - things - appear small; things - he were very
large; and
MIND - DELUSIONS - statue - admired; poses as a statue to be
MIND - DELUSIONS - talking - inanimate objects with names, but observes no
one standing near him; to
MIND - DELUSIONS - visions, has - horrible - beside him
MIND - FEAR - convulsions - with
MIND - FEAR - imbecile, to become
MIND - FEAR - looking - first thing he sees; fear looking at the
MIND - FEAR - processions, in
MIND - FEAR - roasted, to be
So you may examine which of the above correspont to your patient.
Already this has become too lengthy.
Hope this helps,
V.T.Yekkirala
Mancinella
(Hippomane-Manganeel Apple)
* Skin symptoms most marked.
* Dermatitis, with excessive vesiculation, oozing of sticky serum and
formation of crusts.
* To be remembered in mental depressed states at puberty and at
climacteric, with exalted sexuality. [Hering.]
* Loss of vision.
* Pain in the thumb.
Mind
- Silent mood, sadness.
- Wandering thoughts.
- Sudden vanishing of thought.
- Bashful.
- Fear of becoming insane.
A great thirst for cold water with inability to swallow, on account of the
choking sensation, is of no less importance.
This aggravation from the drinking of cold water may be considered the
leading symptom of this remedy.
The following are a few other important indications of Mancinella :-
Sudden vanishing of thought, forgets from one moment to next what she
vishes to do.
Fear of getting crazy; of evil spirits; of being taken away by the devil.
Following is from an interesting case treated with manc by GEUKENS.
Mancinella
WOMAN, 35 YEARS OLD
" This is a very interesting case, where you can prescribe one remedy after
the other, without finding the right remedy. By chance I found this remedy.
I was in London and I studied the remedy there. When I study a remedy, I
read about it in Kent, if he has written something about it, Clarke and
Boericke. I read these three authors after each other and I try to
understand it in general. I had just studied this remedy in detail and I had
to do a supervision. There, I saw that this remedy which I had studied was
needed. So, I found this remedy in a supervision. I think the cosmos gives
us the right impulse, the right information when we do for Homoeopathy what
we can. We do not need to work to strenuously, we have to be open, then the
information comes suddenly. That is the best way to do Homoeopathy, not to
push too much forwards....
.... .... .... ....
Often I have seen, that it is difficult when people with a paper-case come
to supervision. I experienced it once when a student came - he had worked
out the case and read everything he wrote down - in our centre the
supervisors have to accompany the learning doctor and have a look at the
patients and examine whether the things written down are all right. It has
occurred frequently that the student comes and says that the patient needs
this remedy. When we have a look at the patients the picture changes
completely. You see, "No, it can't be that remedy. It is impossible
Pulsatilla, it is impossible Phosphorus", and then we have to see which
remedy it could be. Then you have a conversation with those patients and
there appears a completely different remedy, very strange.
Therefore it is very dangerous to prescribe only on the basis of notes of
other people. Please, do not accuse the supervisor, when his prescription is
wrong. This only happens when you did not make a good anamnesis. You can
only pass the information that you have asked from the patient and someone
else can only sustain his prescription on that. That is not good.
So, the anxiety to become insane became her main problem. She was
frightened to loose her mind. "Fear of insanity" (p. 45). Here, there are 4
capital remedies. When a symptom has been given very strongly by the
patient, then you have to find this symptom capital. There we have Calcarea,
Cannabis indica, Mancinella and Pulsatilla. These are the 4 main remedies in
this rubric. ... .... ...."
end>
MANC is present in 3rd degree (BOLD) in fear of death
while stram is in 1st degree.
Stram is present in the following, but not manc.
MIND - DEATH - desires
MIND - DEATH - presentiment of
MIND - DEATH - thoughts of
MIND - FEAR - death, of - abortion; in
Following delusions and fears are common to both manc and stram.
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - floating - air, in
MIND - DELUSIONS - hearing - illusions of
MIND - DELUSIONS - light [= low weight] - is light; he
MIND - DELUSIONS - persecuted - he is persecuted
MIND - DELUSIONS - possessed; being
MIND - DELUSIONS - pursued; he was
MIND - DELUSIONS - voices - hearing
MIND - FEAR - night
MIND - FEAR - dark, of
MIND - FEAR - delusions; fear from
MIND - FEAR - ghosts, of
MIND - FEAR - high places, of
MIND - FEAR - narrow place, in
Following are rubrics having manc with other remedies but not stram.
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - after her; is
MIND - DELUSIONS - devil - taken by the devil; he will be
MIND - DELUSIONS - flying
MIND - DELUSIONS - insane - become insane; he/she will
MIND - DELUSIONS - light [= low weight] - float; he was so light he could
MIND - DELUSIONS - possessed; being - evil forces; by
MIND - DELUSIONS - smell, of
MIND - DELUSIONS - swimming, is - air, in the
MIND - FEAR - night - midnight
MIND - FEAR - aliens; of
MIND - FEAR - cancer; of
MIND - FEAR - cockroaches; of
MIND - FEAR - devil, of being taken by the
MIND - FEAR - devils, of
MIND - FEAR - evil; fear of - possessed by evil; they are
MIND - FEAR - homosexuality; of
MIND - FEAR - insanity - night
MIND - FEAR - killing, of - child; her
MIND - FEAR - Martians; of
MIND - FEAR - menses - during
MIND - FEAR - moral obliquity
MIND - FEAR - sin; of
Following delusions and fears are exclusive to Stram alone.
MIND - DELUSIONS - alone, being - wilderness; alone in a
MIND - DELUSIONS - animals - jumping - out of the ground
MIND - DELUSIONS - beautiful - she is beautiful and wants to be
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - creases; bed is full of
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - drawn from under her
MIND - DELUSIONS - bed - falling - on her
MIND - DELUSIONS - catches - people, at
MIND - DELUSIONS - corners - people coming out of; sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - creeping things; full of
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - attack him
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - barks at them to be understood; others are dogs,
he
MIND - DELUSIONS - dogs - biting his chest
MIND - DELUSIONS - executioner; visions of an
MIND - DELUSIONS - faces, sees - elongated
MIND - DELUSIONS - fire - balls of fire were rolling over bedclothes
MIND - DELUSIONS - fire - room is on
MIND - DELUSIONS - fowls, sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - friend - never seen his friends; he had - walking; after
MIND - DELUSIONS - God - he is God, then he is the devil
MIND - DELUSIONS - hat is a pair of trousers which he tries to put on
MIND - DELUSIONS - head - disease will break out of head
MIND - DELUSIONS - honest - not honest; is
MIND - DELUSIONS - images, phantoms; sees - rising out of the earth
MIND - DELUSIONS - images, phantoms; sees - side; at his
MIND - DELUSIONS - inconsolable; being
MIND - DELUSIONS - jealousy - lovers concealed behind stove; wife has
MIND - DELUSIONS - joy - nothing could give her any joy
MIND - DELUSIONS - limbs - no limbs; she had
MIND - DELUSIONS - lying - crosswise
MIND - DELUSIONS - murdered - being murdered; he is - roasted and eaten; he
was murdered
MIND - DELUSIONS - objects; about
MIND - DELUSIONS - objects; about - flight away from objects
MIND - DELUSIONS - obscene
MIND - DELUSIONS - people - seeing people - seize them; a number of
strangers and tries to
MIND - DELUSIONS - position; she is not fitted for her
MIND - DELUSIONS - rabbits, sees
MIND - DELUSIONS - seeking - something; he is seeking
MIND - DELUSIONS - side - alive on one and buried on the other; he is
MIND - DELUSIONS - small - things - appear small; things - he were very
large; and
MIND - DELUSIONS - statue - admired; poses as a statue to be
MIND - DELUSIONS - talking - inanimate objects with names, but observes no
one standing near him; to
MIND - DELUSIONS - visions, has - horrible - beside him
MIND - FEAR - convulsions - with
MIND - FEAR - imbecile, to become
MIND - FEAR - looking - first thing he sees; fear looking at the
MIND - FEAR - processions, in
MIND - FEAR - roasted, to be
So you may examine which of the above correspont to your patient.
Already this has become too lengthy.
Hope this helps,
V.T.Yekkirala
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Archambault, Marc
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Re: mancinella
I have not prescribed Mancinella myself, but one of my colleugues has a case
that is going very well. I'm not sure about the details of the case, but
she described to me a most interesting trait. This woman has a tremendous
fear that her children will be haunted. She does not even have children
yet!
potency anywhere!)
Marc
that is going very well. I'm not sure about the details of the case, but
she described to me a most interesting trait. This woman has a tremendous
fear that her children will be haunted. She does not even have children
yet!
potency anywhere!)
Marc