Ebola and homeopathy

[Roger B]

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

I am surprised at this Roger!

I though you were a logical person!

So what kind of a treatment do you think conventional medicine is going to offer you when you read that their great experts on this disease are dying themselves. Remember the old adage - "Physician heal thyself!"?
In any case I hope none of us are affected by this micro organism.
Maintain personal hygiene and wash hands and face frequently with clean water and reduce personal contact.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 16:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Roger B]

Anytime anyone disagrees with Saroush, he says that they are illogical. Saroush, you are using a philosophical word that does not apply to those under-informed or mis-informed. I can only follow the logic of the information that I have. Is English your first language? Living in London doesn't count. (:->)

I was under the impression that Ebola causes the blood to coagulate so that it cannot flow properly. I need for that blood to flow properly while my innate healing power figures out what to do with the germ.

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:05:00 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
I am surprised at this Roger!

I though you were a logical person!

So what kind of a treatment do you think conventional medicine is going to offer you when you read that their great experts on this disease are dying themselves. Remember the old adage - "Physician heal thyself!"?
In any case I hope none of us are affected by this micro organism.
Maintain personal hygiene and wash hands and face frequently with clean water and reduce personal contact.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 16:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Rager
Whatever the action of the Ebola virus, the conventional medics are totally floored by it and as I said even the top experts have sadly died from it.
When you go down a well, you need a good quality rope to trust your life on. It seems that the rope offered by conventional medicine - even as a time buying mechanism - is rotten!

That is why I said your logic was flawed. If you think my logic is flawed, then defend your position.

And it seems you have been on another planet as the micro organism acts so fast that your innate healing power will not have the time or the power to heal you. God forbid that you become affected by it, then you would need outside help.
In view of the fact that homeopathy has performed beautifully in other epidemics, I would go down the well using the rope of homeopathy.
And finally, if your position is to go to conventional medicine, then what on Earth are you doing posting to a Homeopathy site wasting your own and our time?
Hope you are never affected by Ebola virus.

Soroush (Not Saroush)
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 17:22
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Anytime anyone disagrees with Saroush, he says that they are illogical. Saroush, you are using a philosophical word that does not apply to those under-informed or mis-informed. I can only follow the logic of the information that I have. Is English your first language? Living in London doesn't count. (:->)

I was under the impression that Ebola causes the blood to coagulate so that it cannot flow properly. I need for that blood to flow properly while my innate healing power figures out what to do with the germ.

Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:05:00 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
I am surprised at this Roger!

I though you were a logical person!

So what kind of a treatment do you think conventional medicine is going to offer you when you read that their great experts on this disease are dying themselves. Remember the old adage - "Physician heal thyself!"?
In any case I hope none of us are affected by this micro organism.
Maintain personal hygiene and wash hands and face frequently with clean water and reduce personal contact.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 16:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Roger B]

Dear Soroush,

I was correcting your semantics, not your thinking. There is nothing wrong with your logic, or mine, for that matter. Logic is about syllogisms.

When my son had a broken arm, the thought of going to a homeopath never crossed my mind. That is where I am at with anything that comes on so suddenly that the patient could die before their immune system had time to kick in.

My wife had what we thought was the flu for 28 days in 1997. She would scream in pain at times at the top of her lungs. I finally took her to a conventional MD who gave her an antibiotic injection (I had sort of drifted away from alternative healing and homeopathy. She was healed. I have since struggled to try to understand what happened there. Was the disease suppressed? Was there a bacterial complication that the shot killed and it gave her a chance to get to sleep and being able to sleep healed her? Any thought that I have is speculation. She still has issues that seem strange to me for someone who is only 48 and so physically fit. She is very light sensitive. She doesn't digest fats very well, but that could be her genes. She currently is having problems with lower back pain. Etc., etc.

Frankly, I know so little about Ebola that I should just shut-up.
Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:44:29 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Dear Rager
Whatever the action of the Ebola virus, the conventional medics are totally floored by it and as I said even the top experts have sadly died from it.
When you go down a well, you need a good quality rope to trust your life on. It seems that the rope offered by conventional medicine - even as a time buying mechanism - is rotten!

That is why I said your logic was flawed. If you think my logic is flawed, then defend your position.

And it seems you have been on another planet as the micro organism acts so fast that your innate healing power will not have the time or the power to heal you. God forbid that you become affected by it, then you would need outside help.
In view of the fact that homeopathy has performed beautifully in other epidemics, I would go down the well using the rope of homeopathy.
And finally, if your position is to go to conventional medicine, then what on Earth are you doing posting to a Homeopathy site wasting your own and our time?
Hope you are never affected by Ebola virus.

Soroush (Not Saroush)
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 17:22
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Anytime anyone disagrees with Saroush, he says that they are illogical. Saroush, you are using a philosophical word that does not apply to those under-informed or mis-informed. I can only follow the logic of the information that I have. Is English your first language? Living in London doesn't count. (:->)

I was under the impression that Ebola causes the blood to coagulate so that it cannot flow properly. I need for that blood to flow properly while my innate healing power figures out what to do with the germ.

Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:05:00 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
I am surprised at this Roger!

I though you were a logical person!

So what kind of a treatment do you think conventional medicine is going to offer you when you read that their great experts on this disease are dying themselves. Remember the old adage - "Physician heal thyself!"?
In any case I hope none of us are affected by this micro organism.
Maintain personal hygiene and wash hands and face frequently with clean water and reduce personal contact.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 16:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Roger

Shutting up when you know little is a good idea as it allows you to learn! I am glad that at last you have discovered this.

Certainly when something has gone wrong mechanically with the body - for example a broken arm or a strained back etc, then a visit to an orthopaedic surgeon or an osteopath come highly recommended. But after the bone is set properly and correctly, then homeopathy can speed up the healing process and for the bones to join quickly and for the pain to be reduced.

Antibiotics have their uses and in the absence of other resources can be life-saving.

And certainly for you wife to have suffered in screaming pain for 4 weeks is very sad. She should have consulted with a professional much much earlier.

Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 18:32
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Dear Soroush,

I was correcting your semantics, not your thinking. There is nothing wrong with your logic, or mine, for that matter. Logic is about syllogisms.

When my son had a broken arm, the thought of going to a homeopath never crossed my mind. That is where I am at with anything that comes on so suddenly that the patient could die before their immune system had time to kick in.

My wife had what we thought was the flu for 28 days in 1997. She would scream in pain at times at the top of her lungs. I finally took her to a conventional MD who gave her an antibiotic injection (I had sort of drifted away from alternative healing and homeopathy. She was healed. I have since struggled to try to understand what happened there. Was the disease suppressed? Was there a bacterial complication that the shot killed and it gave her a chance to get to sleep and being able to sleep healed her? Any thought that I have is speculation. She still has issues that seem strange to me for someone who is only 48 and so physically fit. She is very light sensitive. She doesn't digest fats very well, but that could be her genes. She currently is having problems with lower back pain. Etc., etc.

Frankly, I know so little about Ebola that I should just shut-up.
Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:44:29 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Dear Rager
Whatever the action of the Ebola virus, the conventional medics are totally floored by it and as I said even the top experts have sadly died from it.
When you go down a well, you need a good quality rope to trust your life on. It seems that the rope offered by conventional medicine - even as a time buying mechanism - is rotten!

That is why I said your logic was flawed. If you think my logic is flawed, then defend your position.

And it seems you have been on another planet as the micro organism acts so fast that your innate healing power will not have the time or the power to heal you. God forbid that you become affected by it, then you would need outside help.
In view of the fact that homeopathy has performed beautifully in other epidemics, I would go down the well using the rope of homeopathy.
And finally, if your position is to go to conventional medicine, then what on Earth are you doing posting to a Homeopathy site wasting your own and our time?
Hope you are never affected by Ebola virus.

Soroush (Not Saroush)
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 17:22
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Anytime anyone disagrees with Saroush, he says that they are illogical. Saroush, you are using a philosophical word that does not apply to those under-informed or mis-informed. I can only follow the logic of the information that I have. Is English your first language? Living in London doesn't count. (:->)

I was under the impression that Ebola causes the blood to coagulate so that it cannot flow properly. I need for that blood to flow properly while my innate healing power figures out what to do with the germ.

Roger

________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:05:00 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
I am surprised at this Roger!

I though you were a logical person!

So what kind of a treatment do you think conventional medicine is going to offer you when you read that their great experts on this disease are dying themselves. Remember the old adage - "Physician heal thyself!"?
In any case I hope none of us are affected by this micro organism.
Maintain personal hygiene and wash hands and face frequently with clean water and reduce personal contact.
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 06 August 2014 16:41
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy

I love homeopathy. I know that it works.

However, should I catch Ebola, my first choice for healing will not be homeopathy. Like if one of my arteries were cut, I would need time to stay alive long enough for my body to solve the Ebola challenge. After conventional medical doctors kept my blood stream flowing, perhaps then I would have time to go to a homeopath.

Roger Bird

[Ginny Wilken]

Roger, it could be argued that you don't know much about homeopathy either:) It absolutely STARS in treatment of acutes, both injury and illness, and what you said just starts remedy choices running around in my head - and I'm no pro. A little knowledge and a good first aid kit, and you could have helped immeasurably in both these cases. There was no need to let your wife drag on for 28 days of suffering!

ginny

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Ginny Wilken

gwilken@fastmail.fm
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[Roger B]

Dear Soroush,

I think back at that horrible time and wonder what was going in my head. One was that 28 days sort of crept up on me one day at a time, like the frog in the frying pan. The other is that we were living in a new place and we knew NO ONE; that can be a little disorienting. But, I had already had decades of great success with homeopathy and Chinese Medicine, so why didn't I seek the help of a professional? I was not into DIY health care as I am now.

Rager (:->)
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:45:18 +0100
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Ebola and homeopathy
Dear Roger
. . . . . . .
And certainly for you wife to have suffered in screaming pain for 4 weeks is very sad. She should have consulted with a professional much much earlier.

Best wishes

Soroush

[Dale Moss]

I'm with you, Soroush. Having seen the power of homeopathy in treating cancer, pneumonia, and blood poisoning, it would be my "rope" of choice in any epidemic, assuming I could identify the genus epidemicus.
One issue I haven't seen explored in this ongoing discussion of Ebola is whether the virus is changing, as viruses are wont to do. I have the impression it's becoming more lethal. and that perhaps the mode of infection is changing What is the historical trajectory of such epidemics? Don't they usually reach a point where the virus mutates into a form less likely to kill its host?
Peace,
Dale
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[gpmccool]

Hi.........must agree with Roger. My first choice of treatment would be high dose IV vitamin C.
As the great Julian Winston once said, if someone is in immediate danger of death due to an asthma attack use the steroid and worry about it later. He said don't throw the baby out with the bath water! (That's a quote. I saved all his emails.) - Georgianna