Epidemic Diseases

Tanya Marquette · Post by **Tanya Marquette** » Tue May 06, 2014 1:41 am

Well put Irene. On another group the discussion was about
vaccine pro and con. The pro people were afraid of their dogs
biting someone and what the consequences could/would be.
Several answered in your vein—the chances of your dog, under
your control biting someone is a heck of a lot less than the
consequences of vaccines over which you have no control at all.
The media does its job very well promoting fear of the ‘other’
especially if it involves people of color.
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From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 6:47 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Epidemic Diseases
Africa is many times the size of USA. It has a crime rate like anywhere else.
To see the real size of Africa see this map which draws onto an Africa outline, how USA, India, China Europe etc al fit within the size of Africa:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goafrica/1/0/b/Q/tru ... africa.jpg

It helps to have actual statistics for crime to get this also in perspective:
In USA for example, FBI says that in 2012 there were 1,214,462 violent crimes, 13,356 more than in 2011.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press- ... statistics
That is an awful lot, and seriously on the rise. Perhaps you need to ask about your safety in USA? So averaging over fifty states, YOUR state (whichever it is) had 24,290 violent crimes, which is 267 more than 2011. Is YOUR state a safe place to go with such a lot of violence happening there?

I grew up in an African country (there are at least 52 countries in Africa last time I counted) , and certainly if you go to rough areas, you can expect a higher crime rate, but tourism is one of the biggest industries in Africa, which would not be the case unless it was a generally good place to visit.

In Kenya, which is a country of 225,000 square miles,(close to size of Kansas state at 212,000, and smaller than California) occyupying less than two percent of Africa, and the country where I think Abha Light is located, in 2013 the murder rate was 1,749 cases recorded country-wide. Compare that with an average of 24,290 violent crimes per state in USA in 2012.

The reported crimes we see on TV, from various African countries are highlighted, they do not highlight anything else on the news. The reporting is not put into perspective. In real perspective:
Perhaps you should move to Kenya due to the lack of safety in USA, based on actual statistics:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Roger B · Post by **Roger B** » Tue May 06, 2014 10:15 am

Irene,

I love your use of the words "actual statistics" as if that were reality. How many crime in Africa or Kansas go unreported? "Actual statistics" is a meaningless phrase. And how about the common decency of the police in Africa vs. Kansas. I think I'll stick with Kansas, even if it is incredibly boring.

Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: furryboots@icehouse.net
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Epidemic Diseases
Africa is many times the size of USA. It has a crime rate like anywhere else.
To see the real size of Africa see this map which draws onto an Africa outline, how USA, India, China Europe etc al fit within the size of Africa:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goafrica/1/0/b/Q/tru ... africa.jpg

It helps to have actual statistics for crime to get this also in perspective:
In USA for example, FBI says that in 2012 there were 1,214,462 violent crimes, 13,356 more than in 2011.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press- ... statistics
That is an awful lot, and seriously on the rise. Perhaps you need to ask about your safety in USA? So averaging over fifty states, YOUR state (whichever it is) had 24,290 violent crimes, which is 267 more than 2011. Is YOUR state a safe place to go with such a lot of violence happening there?

I grew up in an African country (there are at least 52 countries in Africa last time I counted) , and certainly if you go to rough areas, you can expect a higher crime rate, but tourism is one of the biggest industries in Africa, which would not be the case unless it was a generally good place to visit.

In Kenya, which is a country of 225,000 square miles,(close to size of Kansas state at 212,000, and smaller than California) occyupying less than two percent of Africa, and the country where I think Abha Light is located, in 2013 the murder rate was 1,749 cases recorded country-wide. Compare that with an average of 24,290 violent crimes per state in USA in 2012.

The reported crimes we see on TV, from various African countries are highlighted, they do not highlight anything else on the news. The reporting is not put into perspective. In real perspective:
Perhaps you should move to Kenya due to the lack of safety in USA, based on actual statistics:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Ananda Ruchira · Post by **Ananda Ruchira** » Tue May 06, 2014 12:23 pm

True Roger, "I dont think we're in Kansas anymore" (Wizard of Oz)
certainly applies to Kenya and Africa as a whole.

So while its not genuinely safe as Kansas its not "CNN celuloid
Africa " either.
Nevertheless, Karibu Kenya, at Abha Light we will take care of you
during your stay....

Tanya Marquette · Post by **Tanya Marquette** » Tue May 06, 2014 1:36 pm

Decency of police in Kansas. Mighty white of you!
From: Roger B
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:33 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Epidemic Diseases

Irene,

I love your use of the words "actual statistics" as if that were reality. How many crime in Africa or Kansas go unreported? "Actual statistics" is a meaningless phrase. And how about the common decency of the police in Africa vs. Kansas. I think I'll stick with Kansas, even if it is incredibly boring.

Roger
________________________________

To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: furryboots@icehouse.net
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Epidemic Diseases
Africa is many times the size of USA. It has a crime rate like anywhere else.
To see the real size of Africa see this map which draws onto an Africa outline, how USA, India, China Europe etc al fit within the size of Africa:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goafrica/1/0/b/Q/tru ... africa.jpg

It helps to have actual statistics for crime to get this also in perspective:
In USA for example, FBI says that in 2012 there were 1,214,462 violent crimes, 13,356 more than in 2011.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press- ... statistics
That is an awful lot, and seriously on the rise. Perhaps you need to ask about your safety in USA? So averaging over fifty states, YOUR state (whichever it is) had 24,290 violent crimes, which is 267 more than 2011. Is YOUR state a safe place to go with such a lot of violence happening there?

I grew up in an African country (there are at least 52 countries in Africa last time I counted) , and certainly if you go to rough areas, you can expect a higher crime rate, but tourism is one of the biggest industries in Africa, which would not be the case unless it was a generally good place to visit.

In Kenya, which is a country of 225,000 square miles,(close to size of Kansas state at 212,000, and smaller than California) occyupying less than two percent of Africa, and the country where I think Abha Light is located, in 2013 the murder rate was 1,749 cases recorded country-wide. Compare that with an average of 24,290 violent crimes per state in USA in 2012.

The reported crimes we see on TV, from various African countries are highlighted, they do not highlight anything else on the news. The reporting is not put into perspective. In real perspective:
Perhaps you should move to Kenya due to the lack of safety in USA, based on actual statistics:-)

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Irene de Villiers · Post by **Irene de Villiers** » Wed May 07, 2014 5:17 am

Dear Roger,

When last did a policeman in Kenya get rude to you?
And what evidence do you have that Kansas is safer than Kenya?
Or are you just assuming and generalizing?

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."