Seems to me it is lasting too long. Nannies still do not look stressed.
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Goat in labor
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Fran Sheffield
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Goat in labor
Goats need to be born two front legs first with nose between them.
Not nose without legs or one leg only. The head ca be bent back anbd the neck break.
AS I mentioned prior email, if the kid is not positioned properly, the nanny will simply stop her labor.
It sounds like that has happened?
You may need to glove and KY-jelly up, push the mispositioned kid back inside, and get the two legs coming out with nose between.
It can hep to tie the nanny to a fence or some such standig up in a harness for this purpose, or have someon else hold her while repositioing to the 2 leg and nose between positoion and getting labor restarted by gently pulling on the legs - downward - once the position is right. Be careful not to break the placental sac while doing the positioning.
If no repositioned, the neck easily gets broken, or it just plain gets stuck. The nanny wil not push out just any position, they stop their labor.
TO help position, Grip above the hocks to get the legs forward with least stress, and nose between the,m.
You also may have a failed delivery due to too large kids, It is "not done" in goats, to breed goats of different sizes/breeds as they tend to have kids that will not fit through the amount of cervix dilation they can do. A C section is then forced on you.
They do not usually take a long time after labor gets going (just first stage is slow) unless it stops for too large kid or mispositioned one. Sounds likely here.
Can not deliver one foot first - needs two with head.
Nose first also not okay, suggest push back in and get those legs out first, with nose/head between.
That sounds usual for a nanny who just quit labor for mispositioning.
(Goats are not the easiest deliveries)
may have size issues:-(
It just works differently. Positioning is relevant with goats, and same size and breed breeding. Hybrids tend to be too big, even if parents are same size.
No, they will not push if the position is wrong.
Sounds right.
The others MAY be too big due to the breeding?
Suggest getting position right ansd see if they can be born then, start with helping by pulling feet downwards AFTER positioning them.
NIce you have a healthy one so far.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Not nose without legs or one leg only. The head ca be bent back anbd the neck break.
AS I mentioned prior email, if the kid is not positioned properly, the nanny will simply stop her labor.
It sounds like that has happened?
You may need to glove and KY-jelly up, push the mispositioned kid back inside, and get the two legs coming out with nose between.
It can hep to tie the nanny to a fence or some such standig up in a harness for this purpose, or have someon else hold her while repositioing to the 2 leg and nose between positoion and getting labor restarted by gently pulling on the legs - downward - once the position is right. Be careful not to break the placental sac while doing the positioning.
If no repositioned, the neck easily gets broken, or it just plain gets stuck. The nanny wil not push out just any position, they stop their labor.
TO help position, Grip above the hocks to get the legs forward with least stress, and nose between the,m.
You also may have a failed delivery due to too large kids, It is "not done" in goats, to breed goats of different sizes/breeds as they tend to have kids that will not fit through the amount of cervix dilation they can do. A C section is then forced on you.
They do not usually take a long time after labor gets going (just first stage is slow) unless it stops for too large kid or mispositioned one. Sounds likely here.
Can not deliver one foot first - needs two with head.
Nose first also not okay, suggest push back in and get those legs out first, with nose/head between.
That sounds usual for a nanny who just quit labor for mispositioning.
(Goats are not the easiest deliveries)
may have size issues:-(
It just works differently. Positioning is relevant with goats, and same size and breed breeding. Hybrids tend to be too big, even if parents are same size.
No, they will not push if the position is wrong.
Sounds right.
The others MAY be too big due to the breeding?
Suggest getting position right ansd see if they can be born then, start with helping by pulling feet downwards AFTER positioning them.
NIce you have a healthy one so far.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Maria Bohle
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Re: Goat in labor
Thank you to all who responded. The websites were excellent. I waited too long. There were 3 sets of twins. One goat had one set, the live birth and a breech where one leg was folded under. The other with two sets got ugly, kids were badly twisted together. Back leg of one with head only of other, and the next was a one leg presentation breech first with its twins front leg jamming the canal. That nanny didn't make it.
To end on a positive note,
First nanny with kid is fine. And the snow drops are blooming. A sure sign spring is coming.
Again thank you for the help you gave. Farming is always difficult. Back to homeopathy.
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To end on a positive note,
First nanny with kid is fine. And the snow drops are blooming. A sure sign spring is coming.
Again thank you for the help you gave. Farming is always difficult. Back to homeopathy.
Sent from my iPhone