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Fran Sheffield
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Hyperextension

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Can someone point me to a rubric/s that cover
hyperextension of joints - ie, fingers, elbows, knees bend backwards
more than they should.

I know Calc-fl is a key remedy but am trying to find others that may be
listed ... and can't find a suitable rubric.

Many thanks.


Ellen Madono
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Ellen Madono »

Extremities; weakness; joints can find specific joint. It's also in the general section.


Fran Sheffield
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Thanks Ellen,

Interestingly Calc-f isn't mentioned in this rubric at all (at least in my rep) in spite of it being a key remedy for hyperextension, so maybe there is still another rubric?

The search goes on.


Leilanae
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Leilanae »

Hi Fran,

Complete 2009

Extremities; WEAKNESS; Joints (Dislocation, sprains: easy) (Generalities; weakness; joints)

Calc-f is listed.

Generalities: WEAKNESS: Joints (Extremities; weakness; joints)

Calc-f is not listed.

Atb,

Leilanae


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

But those people (Ehler-Danlos syndrome) do not sprain in the "pathological" aspect we could experienc with truam, pain, swelling,... their connective tissues are more elastic, more lax, but when they hyperextend their joints in what is for us an abnormal position, they can bring it back to "normal" easily, meaning also they can "dislocate" and "relocate" at will.

I searched for "weak connective tissue" in Reference works:

Weak connective tissue (5): 3Sep., calc-f., sac-alb., scarl., sil.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com


Leilanae
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Leilanae »

Hi Dr. Roz,

This sounds more on point. So glad you're here!

Thanks,

Leilanae


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

My pleasure....sorry for the typos, didn't check the spelling....

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

My pleasure....sorry for the typos, didn't check the spelling....

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com


Ellen Madono
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Ellen Madono »

I second Leilanne. Thanks Dr. Roz.

I wonder if she has other mental weaknesses similar to the physical one. Like too flexible, bending to others wishes when she does not want to. I saw this once with a guy whose whole life was spent escaping his controlling mom. He would lose everything to a similarly controlling wife and escape to his mom.
Some people have the double joint is only some places.

Also, not all connective tissues are necessarily weak. You find this with people who are very thin. But, the guy above was not thin. He just had no principles or grit. Weak willed. He was a drug addict too, so that did not help.

Ellen Madono


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Hyperextension

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

I remember a patient with this syndrome, but very low key; she was a competition swimmer and her main complaint was pain after training due to the fact that she needed to contract more her muscles in order to keep the joints in place.
Calc Fluor solved the problem, I seem to remember I used M. Tyler's progression of 30, 200, 1M, 10M....we are talking almost 18 years ago....and she was a very strong willed and intelligent young lady.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com


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