Hi Dr. Roz,
I was stimulated to present the following case because of your comment;
Don't know about cats, but in humans sub-clinical infections or the mere presence of bacteria can be a focus of minerals precipitation and the "seed" of calculi.
They act as a foreign body on which the minerals attach and grow into symptomatic crystals.
So these subclinical infections in the kidney are the source of calcium based kidney stones? Or any stone? Wouldn't it make more sense to take care of the subclinical infections rather than to treat a kidney stone attack later? Even if they are subclinical and the person has a tendency for stones, there must be a remedy that would reduce the presumed chronic inflammations.
I am looking at your book,Organotherapy drainage and detoxification p. 111 Zea mays, corn silk. My case px has low blood pressure and poor circulation, so this herb looks appropriate. Not sure how the tendency to form stones could be changed by the herb except if there were more force from the heart for blood to flow through the kidney, then possibly inflammation tendencies would go down too. If stones are based on inflammation, I am guessing that you would be thinking about herbs and drainage remedies. There is no evidence of inflammation, but since the last kidney stone, there are new ones forming in each kidney. Bigger in the right, and the 3 past kidney stone attacks have arisen from the right kidney.
From Organotherapy .... Sars p. 173 is a drainage remedy which has the sparse, frequent urination, pyelonephritis as the subclinical inflammation, and the added concomitant of a loss of a sense of taste. These fit the px.
Px also has dribbling just before urination if she waits to long to go. I can't find the right rubric. Dribbbling could refer to a general lack of sphincter control. In this case, the cause of dribbling is based on anxiety. She urinates more frequently when nervous. Also, she dribbles when she waits too long to go to the toilet. So I used those symptoms.
Canth comes up higher on repertorization, but there is none of the burning or mucus even during kidney stones. During kidney stone pain, the pain radiates down the right hip bone. But I don't think I would include this in this effort to find a remedy to prevent the inflammation of the kidney. Calc got rid of a stone the last time of an attack, without pain.
Sars also covers the unrelated complaint of a loss of taste. Bold rubrics for Sars in the Complete (the number is the number of remedies in the rubric): in Kidney right + 95 remedies, Throat pain +780 rx, All kinds of back pain because it is a kidney remedy, Skin eruptions +1093. So inflammation is the main theme of the case.
Boericke says sensitive, easily offended, marasmus, complement Merc (the constitutional remedy)
In this case, Merc is the constitutional.
For mercury poisoning (from amalgum fillings?) sars antidotes the Merc. (Kent) I find incomaptible, follows well, similar, complements all relating Sars to Merc. Can they be used together? Merc does not seem to be doing the work of draining the kidneys since stones are formed while taking Merc.
The drainage remedies are generally lesser aspects of polychrests or smaller remedies which is not a very understandable distinction in my opinion, It seems that if a polychrest were chosen, it would have to completely cover the drainage locality (here kidneys) and also include some keynotes or some major constitutional symptoms. (see Dr. Roz's book p. 147)
Not sure how to give the herb zea mays, corn silk. I see the Koreans drink it as a sweet tea. It is in the Korean Grocery store here in Tokyo.
Assuming that Merc and Sars can be used together: The drainage remedy I presume you would give these days as a Fibonacci series potency (have not studied your lecture on Wholehealthnow, and it is at the top of my short list) or maybe as 6c with Mercury at 200c or 1 M. The patient is ready for these higher potencies. Merc also covers the loss of taste.
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These are TMC observations and I don't find them in the repertory (The Complete). I wish the repertory were based on TMC observations because they are so easy to make and understand. Can you use TMC in conjunction with homeopathy or it is a completely unrelated treatment? I know I am too long, but I can't resist talking to you about it because I know you also do acupuncture.
All the physical problems are on the right side of the body. There is poor circulation and pain at the inguinal crease so the leg suddenly gives. (Spleen meridian at (Spleen 12) with all the pain points that you would expect for constriction of the inner thigh by the inguinal ligament as mentioned above). The right leg is longer than the left leg so it takes the burden of the body weight.
But really the energy of the left leg is weak that is why the lower leg is shorter on the left than on the right. The left breast is smaller. This speaks to general inability to get the energy (blood and qi) up the legs. The diameter of the left thigh is also smaller than that of the right thigh. So the feet are cold and cracks in the soles of both feet but worse on the left. ( Interestingly, this
imbalance in the growth of the fetus expressed as one sidedness fits the genotype that Irene has been describing -- the gatherer)
Because the nerves cross at the eyes, the right eye is weak and tends to drift off the left.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Drainage remedies for Kidney stone inflammation - case
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Re: Drainage remedies for Kidney stone inflammation - case
Not usually. The main cause is the supersaturtion of a substance which then precipitates - turns from dissolved phase to solid phase.
Usually it precipitates onto apatite plaque. But it has to precipitate onto something to intiate crystal formation once the urine is supersaturated. SO the real problem is the supersaturation and whatever caused it - and secondary is a substrate for precipitation.
There are also substances some people have that help prevent large crystal formation. SOit occurs more easily in som ethan others once a substance is supersaturated (usually calcium oxalate in humans)
Here is a article on human stones which are 90% calcium-based stones.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1236703/
By the way - Not to be confused with feline crystals in urine which are struvite (magnesium based) crystals. Struvite makes crystals which can block the works and do damage - but they do not grow into bladder stones.
Namaste,
Irene
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Usually it precipitates onto apatite plaque. But it has to precipitate onto something to intiate crystal formation once the urine is supersaturated. SO the real problem is the supersaturation and whatever caused it - and secondary is a substrate for precipitation.
There are also substances some people have that help prevent large crystal formation. SOit occurs more easily in som ethan others once a substance is supersaturated (usually calcium oxalate in humans)
Here is a article on human stones which are 90% calcium-based stones.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1236703/
By the way - Not to be confused with feline crystals in urine which are struvite (magnesium based) crystals. Struvite makes crystals which can block the works and do damage - but they do not grow into bladder stones.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Re: Drainage remedies for Kidney stone inflammation - case
It is not just sub-clinical infection, and I realise I should have been more detailed: it is ANY "foreign body" floating in the urine and not eliminated, like epithelial cells that are normally desquamated in the urine, but stay there because the outflow is compromised.
This is the case in physical or functional obstructions like prostate enlargement or pelvic floor weakness after multiple deliveries or other pelvic trauma with the anatomy/geometry of the bladder compromised and urine stagnation, possible reflux in the ureters.
That is why a real diagnostic (not a label) is necessary to chose the proper therapeutic approach.
Zea Mais is a traditional diuretic and urinary tract sedative, also used as a drainage remedy in psoriasis and eczema. In TCM it clears the Damp Heat from the Liver and Gallbladder and is used not only for liver and gallbladder problems but for the indications of oedema and dysuria.
The real beauty of it is when used as a Gemmotherapic remedy, it works as an anti-inflammatory of arteries and myocardium, indicated in the healing of myocardial infarcts and for coronary insufficiency (Dynamic Gemmotherapy, Third edition pages 219 and 220).
The tea should be a good approach but the mechanical aspect, if existing must be dealt with. Anxiety to be dealt with too.
In my practice, I find that if 2 remedies are indicated, one aimed at a specific purpose and the other more general, and there is the need to treat both situations at the same time, there is absolutely no problem using them together, but certainly not in the same bottle as you would want the frequency of repetitions to be different for both. The French call that pluralism.
Or you can treat the actual problem with the situational remedy that appears to be Sars., then when this part is resolved, go to Mercurius, in a more classical manner. Depends on what the patient needs.
TCM and homeopathy: patience, it is coming...the use of tongue and pulse diagnosis is already established, I have given a few workshops in NZ and Australia, giving another one in Auckland in March, maybe in Canada in September if they want to, so it is spreading slowly (see also the book Homeopathy through the Chinese looking glass). I am working on the rest and more, but it is a very slow process that will take me at least 2 years to finish and then some, maybe, as unexpected notions pop up on the way...
Hope I answered properly, if not, please ask again.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com
This is the case in physical or functional obstructions like prostate enlargement or pelvic floor weakness after multiple deliveries or other pelvic trauma with the anatomy/geometry of the bladder compromised and urine stagnation, possible reflux in the ureters.
That is why a real diagnostic (not a label) is necessary to chose the proper therapeutic approach.
Zea Mais is a traditional diuretic and urinary tract sedative, also used as a drainage remedy in psoriasis and eczema. In TCM it clears the Damp Heat from the Liver and Gallbladder and is used not only for liver and gallbladder problems but for the indications of oedema and dysuria.
The real beauty of it is when used as a Gemmotherapic remedy, it works as an anti-inflammatory of arteries and myocardium, indicated in the healing of myocardial infarcts and for coronary insufficiency (Dynamic Gemmotherapy, Third edition pages 219 and 220).
The tea should be a good approach but the mechanical aspect, if existing must be dealt with. Anxiety to be dealt with too.
In my practice, I find that if 2 remedies are indicated, one aimed at a specific purpose and the other more general, and there is the need to treat both situations at the same time, there is absolutely no problem using them together, but certainly not in the same bottle as you would want the frequency of repetitions to be different for both. The French call that pluralism.
Or you can treat the actual problem with the situational remedy that appears to be Sars., then when this part is resolved, go to Mercurius, in a more classical manner. Depends on what the patient needs.
TCM and homeopathy: patience, it is coming...the use of tongue and pulse diagnosis is already established, I have given a few workshops in NZ and Australia, giving another one in Auckland in March, maybe in Canada in September if they want to, so it is spreading slowly (see also the book Homeopathy through the Chinese looking glass). I am working on the rest and more, but it is a very slow process that will take me at least 2 years to finish and then some, maybe, as unexpected notions pop up on the way...
Hope I answered properly, if not, please ask again.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com
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Re: Drainage remedies for Kidney stone inflammation - case
It is not just sub-clinical infection, and I realise I should have been more detailed: it is ANY "foreign body" floating in the urine and not eliminated, like epithelial cells that are normally desquamated in the urine, but stay there because the outflow is compromised.
This is the case in physical or functional obstructions like prostate enlargement or pelvic floor weakness after multiple deliveries or other pelvic trauma with the anatomy/geometry of the bladder compromised and urine stagnation, possible reflux in the ureters.
That is why a real diagnostic (not a label) is necessary to chose the proper therapeutic approach.
Zea Mais is a traditional diuretic and urinary tract sedative, also used as a drainage remedy in psoriasis and eczema. In TCM it clears the Damp Heat from the Liver and Gallbladder and is used not only for liver and gallbladder problems but for the indications of oedema and dysuria.
The real beauty of it is when used as a Gemmotherapic remedy, it works as an anti-inflammatory of arteries and myocardium, indicated in the healing of myocardial infarcts and for coronary insufficiency (Dynamic Gemmotherapy, Third edition pages 219 and 220).
The tea should be a good approach but the mechanical aspect, if existing must be dealt with. Anxiety to be dealt with too.
In my practice, I find that if 2 remedies are indicated, one aimed at a specific purpose and the other more general, and there is the need to treat both situations at the same time, there is absolutely no problem using them together, but certainly not in the same bottle as you would want the frequency of repetitions to be different for both. The French call that pluralism.
Or you can treat the actual problem with the situational remedy that appears to be Sars., then when this part is resolved, go to Mercurius, in a more classical manner. Depends on what the patient needs.
TCM and homeopathy: patience, it is coming...the use of tongue and pulse diagnosis is already established, I have given a few workshops in NZ and Australia, giving another one in Auckland in March, maybe in Canada in September if they want to, so it is spreading slowly (see also the book Homeopathy through the Chinese looking glass). I am working on the rest and more, but it is a very slow process that will take me at least 2 years to finish and then some, maybe, as unexpected notions pop up on the way...
Hope I answered properly, if not, please ask again.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com
This is the case in physical or functional obstructions like prostate enlargement or pelvic floor weakness after multiple deliveries or other pelvic trauma with the anatomy/geometry of the bladder compromised and urine stagnation, possible reflux in the ureters.
That is why a real diagnostic (not a label) is necessary to chose the proper therapeutic approach.
Zea Mais is a traditional diuretic and urinary tract sedative, also used as a drainage remedy in psoriasis and eczema. In TCM it clears the Damp Heat from the Liver and Gallbladder and is used not only for liver and gallbladder problems but for the indications of oedema and dysuria.
The real beauty of it is when used as a Gemmotherapic remedy, it works as an anti-inflammatory of arteries and myocardium, indicated in the healing of myocardial infarcts and for coronary insufficiency (Dynamic Gemmotherapy, Third edition pages 219 and 220).
The tea should be a good approach but the mechanical aspect, if existing must be dealt with. Anxiety to be dealt with too.
In my practice, I find that if 2 remedies are indicated, one aimed at a specific purpose and the other more general, and there is the need to treat both situations at the same time, there is absolutely no problem using them together, but certainly not in the same bottle as you would want the frequency of repetitions to be different for both. The French call that pluralism.
Or you can treat the actual problem with the situational remedy that appears to be Sars., then when this part is resolved, go to Mercurius, in a more classical manner. Depends on what the patient needs.
TCM and homeopathy: patience, it is coming...the use of tongue and pulse diagnosis is already established, I have given a few workshops in NZ and Australia, giving another one in Auckland in March, maybe in Canada in September if they want to, so it is spreading slowly (see also the book Homeopathy through the Chinese looking glass). I am working on the rest and more, but it is a very slow process that will take me at least 2 years to finish and then some, maybe, as unexpected notions pop up on the way...
Hope I answered properly, if not, please ask again.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind" www.naturamedica.webs.com