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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Good question....and answer is .. no, close, but:
It is useless stuff, there is no great cat food yet.

It is defined for cat food as: "Powdered Cellulose - purified, mechanically disintegrated cellulose prepared by processing alpha cellulose obtained as a pulp from fibrous plant materials."

It really should be rice bran as a cat-fermentable fiber to feed gut bacteria. Cat gut acteria have zero ability to use cellulose as fiber.
I tolerate it here as it is nontoxic - better than say potato, which has 3 toxins, and raises pH and damages kidneys.
Flaxseed is also undesirable in cat food.
CURRENT COMMERCIAL DRY CAT FOOD CHOICES.

My current USA/Canada commercial top choice dry cat food is Redmoon petfoods' Chicken and Salmon formula:

Ingredients

Protein 40%.
Chicken, Chicken Meal, Salmon Meal, Brown Rice, Rice Starch, Chicken Liver, Chicken Fat (Naturally Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols, A Source of Vitamin E), Salmon Oil (Naturally Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols), Rice Bran, Dried Pumpkin, Sea Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Beta-carotene, Niacin Supplement, Inosital, Thiamin Mononitrate, D-calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Folic Acid, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Selenium Methionine, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Iodate.

Except for overseas, there the top current option is ProPac kitten food. (Here it is GMO so no go)

Diamond Naturals Active Cat is 2nd and a lot cheaper. One must add pumpkin and rice bran, half a teasp a day each to it, plus extra taurine (500mg). Disadvanatae - they are a HUGE company so they do have problems in one or other plant now and then (like salmonella in one of the plants last year). They respond fast, and listen when people call, but meantime cats can suffer.

Third is Costco adult maintenance, and add the same items here plus also add more meat, as protein is too low.
There is no fourth, it used to be VF kitten (Veterinary Formula VF) but the artificial Vit K in it is way too toxic (menadione). It is illegal in USA to use natural Vit K in commercial cat food. Thanks FDA! Mfrs either have to use menadione or leave it out. Better manufacturers leave it out rather than poison the cats, VF includes it so as not to be sued for Vit K deficiencies, AAGH...but no food bag warns customers to add some oysters or a real Vit K supplement either!
The FDA is KILLING us and our pets. That seerms to be their main function. Federal Death Agency.

Namaste,
Irene
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Elizabeth Brandegee
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Elizabeth Brandegee »

Agree Ginny, CS is suppressive, and more. It would be an absolute last resort for me. Silver is helpful *outside* the body and is the best place to keep it.
Liz


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Irene de Villiers »

Like for cutlery and bracelets:-)

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Mary Salvador
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Mary Salvador »

good morning
I feel that I must add to the CS talk. It is a poison, pure and simple.....who puts metal into their bodies??? I lost a precious bulldog because the “natural” breeder used CS as drinking water...not adding to the water, but giving the dogs only CS to drink. The puppy was ill the second I got her.....she died a horrific death from metal poisoning at the age of almost 3, I spent thousands of $ on very good homeopaths...but she was too ill...... Just because something kills viruses, bacteria, etc. does not make it safe.....I went on a rant and erased a lot of it....just please, use common sense when giving so called natural “remedies”.....
Mary Salvador
Irene said:
CS is worse than other antibiotics as many individuals do not excrete it readily and you can not tell in advance who can. Those who do not, have heavy metal poisoning. This does not happen with regular antibiotics. So I will not go near CS, even if I want a fast knockdown of organisms for some reason.

There is nothing healthy about CS.
Homeopathy is shown to strengthen cells so that they resist bacteria and viruses, a much better approach IMO.
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Sheri Nakken
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Sheri Nakken »

what would you all tell parents who use CS with their children - I have been ranting about it for years - mostly about it being suppressive.
I didn't know about animals deaths - I am so very sorry.
Tell me more that I can share. Why would it be any different for babies?
Sheri

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Hennie Duits
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Hennie Duits »

And maybe Heavy Metal for the ears etc. of some..

Irene de Villiers schreef op 30-1-2014 16:10:


Ginny Wilken
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Ginny Wilken »

Sheri, I think the overreaching theme must be the nature of "disease" and how the body protects itself, and from there to the evils of suppression - not to mention the lack of need for it. When one grasps the big picture, all forms of suppression are obviously - and equally - harmful.
What an impossible task, educating parents into taking that big leap! But there is our best chance for the future of the race, which is in dismal shape.
ginny
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Irene de Villiers »

And humans. Grey skin and silver poisoning symptoms as well.
Heavy metal poisoning is the replacement of healthy metal molecules, by heavier ones and other deposition of heavy metal molecules the body has no natural mechanism to excrete, like Silver, Lead, Gold, etc.
These metals are far up on the periopdic table, that is they weight a lot more t han the lower number elements used in body structure.
The heavy ones have no mechanism for removal, accumulate and are toxic.
Symptoms most hated are the grey skin like a cadaver, but all the silver poisoning symptoms also occur.

It is hard to find anyone who will be open about the horrid results:
http://www.rosemaryjacobs.com/argyria_p ... ntro.htmll


The amount to cause the problem, varies and is unpredictable - some people seem to excrete it more readly than others. But you can not tell by looking, whether you took in enough to look like a corpse the rest of your days for example, as the reaction happens next time you go into the sun. Eye drops or nose drops with CS cause it.

Historically, colloidal silver, a liquid suspension of microscopic silver particles, was also used as an internal medication to treat a variety of diseases. In the 1940s they were discontinued due to both the development of safe and effective modern antibiotics and concern about argyria and other side effects of silver products.

For what it's worth FDA has ruled CS unsafe as of Aug 1999:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10558603

Journal of Toxicology Study of 1996 says it is unsafe:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8632503

Study in 2005 adds
"Besides argyria and argyrosis, exposure to soluble silver compounds may produce other toxic effects, including liver and kidney damage, irritation of the eyes, skin, respiratory, and intestinal tract, and changes in blood cells."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15964881

ENT specialists checked internet sales systems in 2008 and found the marketing verey misleading for CS, especially in their expertise area via nose/eye drops:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18478796

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."


Leilanae
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Leilanae »

Hi Irene,

Thanks for all the info!

I'm currently feeding RedMoon Chicken and Turkey and Origen Cat and Kitten mixed together.
Atb,
Leilanae


Carol Orr
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Re: Speaking of cats.....

Post by Carol Orr »

Ok. I knew the bad things about collodial silver...after I used it on the cat.
Still, I sprayed it down my throat when I had a cold beginning yesterday. How
long do I have before I turn grey? No antidote?


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