I'm pretty sure that I read about some remedy in the last ten years that had
this attribute in some way. Lyc or sulphur? Does anyone have an idea about
this or has heard or read something? I'm not talking about this happening in a
purposeful way.
Bending metal...as in fork tines and/or keys..
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John R. Benneth
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Re: Bending metal...as in fork tines and/or keys..
In a message dated 12/1/2013 5:43:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, carolorr@usa.net writes:
Carol,
It's Syphillinum . .
The subject of psychokinesis is of great interest to me and would make a great blog entry if you don't mind.
Maybe I can get some discussion or feed back . . if you don't mind.
Uri Geller was first to present to our generation the effect of metal psychokinesis, which, like homoeopathy, drives James Randi wild. I have seen Uri perform this effect up close. So as you can imagine, I am interested in its relation to homoeopathy. Is it a truick, or is it real psychokinesis?.
Whereas it would be indiscreet for me to say what Uri's remedy pattern is, I can tell you that he is a very unusual man, and therefore would appear to require a very unusual remedy. . a psychokinetic remedy, or . . a remedy for habitual deception.
I have known Uri Geller for more than a decade now and have studied him both from afar and from inches away. The last time I saw him was when I was in London three years ago. Dr. Sharma of Hahnemann College, my son Merlin (whose grandfather was a professional magician and a mentor of mine) and I spent one afternoon with Uri at the Geller mansion in Sonning on Thames.
After a walking tour on the green grounds of his estate next to the Thames, we went up past a glass pyramid to his Japanese Garden where Michael Jackson used to sit by the fish pond and meditate. Uri's family background is Hungarian, which I speak a little, so we conversed a bit about his ancestor Freud. As we were nearing the house I said to him, "Szóval, na most Uri, fogsz meghajlítani a kanalat nekünk?" "So now Uri, are you going to bend a spoon for us?"
"Az igen," he said. Next to the fish pond was a shallow pit filled with heavy steel cutlery he had just brought back from Russia. He picked up a spoon and handed it to me to check. It was solid. I handed it to Merlin and Dr. Sharma, who handed it back to Uri.
"You're welcome to video tape this," he said lightly rubbing the shank of the spoon, and as I was reaching for my cell phone he suddenly said. "Vigyazz! Nézni alaposan!" and just that quickly it was bending.
"Look, it's still bending," he said as he held it under my nose. By the time he handed it to Merlin to keep, it was bent like a pretzel.
By coincidence, through my father in law, I became acquainted with the great magician Jerry Andrus, who sat on the board of the anti homeopathy National Council Against Health Fraud. Like Randi, Andrus was convinced that what Geller was doing was a trick. I got to know Jerry quite well through the arguments we had over homeopathy, which Jerry was convinced there were no objective tests for. Once, in 1999, when I showed him a stack of pre-clincal tests, his reaction was to push them away and hand me a pad to write down for him all the other crazy things I believed in. This reaction to scientific tests that he said didn't exist made it difficult for me to take his analysis of Geller seriously. As with Randi, it was slowly being revealed to me that skeptics had just as much trouble putting their preconceived notions on the shelf as any true believer.
Everyone is looking for confirmation for his beliefs, and evidence to the contrary is always rejected . . at first.
To further confuse matters, here is an old video of Andrus and Ray Hyman, another darling of the skeptic world, the man who reportedly debunked the CIA's Stargate Project, debunking Geller.
Although the TV show moderator is flabbergasted by their cheap tricks, you can figure them out prima facie by studying the tape. Uri isn't so easy.
Both of these characters, Jerry and Ray, invited me to dinner once in Eugene, Oregon because, I thought, of my application to prove homeopathy to Randi, as both were friends of Randi's. I foolishly thought they would question me about homeopathy and my application to the million dollar challenge, but that's not what they wanted. They wanted me to perform my mind reading act for their magic club, the Mysticians, meeting late that night. Nothing was asked of me about homeopathy.
I pressed Hyman to perform his famous cold reading stunt for me, but he kept promising and putting me off until he finally got upset and said he didn't want to.
I have discussed Uri's psychokinesis at length with the now late Eldon Byrd, the Navy scientist who put Uri's alleged psychokinetic powers to the test using Nitinol wire,(an alloy of nickel and titanium that exhibits shape memory after bending) and would stay with him when he was in England. Byrd told me he was convinced it was not a trick.
It boils down to two remedy patterns, depending on whether or not you think its a trick. If its a trick, its one pattern. If its not, it's another. So out of respect for Uri, I won't say whether it's a trick or not, and believe me, as a mentalist, I know, I am one of the few homeopaths who could know for sure without administering the remedy and seeing its reaction.
There is one remedy associated with inadvertent psychokinesis, Syphillinum. I twould be interesting to know more particulars of the case.
Benneth
Carol,
It's Syphillinum . .
The subject of psychokinesis is of great interest to me and would make a great blog entry if you don't mind.
Maybe I can get some discussion or feed back . . if you don't mind.
Uri Geller was first to present to our generation the effect of metal psychokinesis, which, like homoeopathy, drives James Randi wild. I have seen Uri perform this effect up close. So as you can imagine, I am interested in its relation to homoeopathy. Is it a truick, or is it real psychokinesis?.
Whereas it would be indiscreet for me to say what Uri's remedy pattern is, I can tell you that he is a very unusual man, and therefore would appear to require a very unusual remedy. . a psychokinetic remedy, or . . a remedy for habitual deception.
I have known Uri Geller for more than a decade now and have studied him both from afar and from inches away. The last time I saw him was when I was in London three years ago. Dr. Sharma of Hahnemann College, my son Merlin (whose grandfather was a professional magician and a mentor of mine) and I spent one afternoon with Uri at the Geller mansion in Sonning on Thames.
After a walking tour on the green grounds of his estate next to the Thames, we went up past a glass pyramid to his Japanese Garden where Michael Jackson used to sit by the fish pond and meditate. Uri's family background is Hungarian, which I speak a little, so we conversed a bit about his ancestor Freud. As we were nearing the house I said to him, "Szóval, na most Uri, fogsz meghajlítani a kanalat nekünk?" "So now Uri, are you going to bend a spoon for us?"
"Az igen," he said. Next to the fish pond was a shallow pit filled with heavy steel cutlery he had just brought back from Russia. He picked up a spoon and handed it to me to check. It was solid. I handed it to Merlin and Dr. Sharma, who handed it back to Uri.
"You're welcome to video tape this," he said lightly rubbing the shank of the spoon, and as I was reaching for my cell phone he suddenly said. "Vigyazz! Nézni alaposan!" and just that quickly it was bending.
"Look, it's still bending," he said as he held it under my nose. By the time he handed it to Merlin to keep, it was bent like a pretzel.
By coincidence, through my father in law, I became acquainted with the great magician Jerry Andrus, who sat on the board of the anti homeopathy National Council Against Health Fraud. Like Randi, Andrus was convinced that what Geller was doing was a trick. I got to know Jerry quite well through the arguments we had over homeopathy, which Jerry was convinced there were no objective tests for. Once, in 1999, when I showed him a stack of pre-clincal tests, his reaction was to push them away and hand me a pad to write down for him all the other crazy things I believed in. This reaction to scientific tests that he said didn't exist made it difficult for me to take his analysis of Geller seriously. As with Randi, it was slowly being revealed to me that skeptics had just as much trouble putting their preconceived notions on the shelf as any true believer.
Everyone is looking for confirmation for his beliefs, and evidence to the contrary is always rejected . . at first.
To further confuse matters, here is an old video of Andrus and Ray Hyman, another darling of the skeptic world, the man who reportedly debunked the CIA's Stargate Project, debunking Geller.
Although the TV show moderator is flabbergasted by their cheap tricks, you can figure them out prima facie by studying the tape. Uri isn't so easy.
Both of these characters, Jerry and Ray, invited me to dinner once in Eugene, Oregon because, I thought, of my application to prove homeopathy to Randi, as both were friends of Randi's. I foolishly thought they would question me about homeopathy and my application to the million dollar challenge, but that's not what they wanted. They wanted me to perform my mind reading act for their magic club, the Mysticians, meeting late that night. Nothing was asked of me about homeopathy.
I pressed Hyman to perform his famous cold reading stunt for me, but he kept promising and putting me off until he finally got upset and said he didn't want to.
I have discussed Uri's psychokinesis at length with the now late Eldon Byrd, the Navy scientist who put Uri's alleged psychokinetic powers to the test using Nitinol wire,(an alloy of nickel and titanium that exhibits shape memory after bending) and would stay with him when he was in England. Byrd told me he was convinced it was not a trick.
It boils down to two remedy patterns, depending on whether or not you think its a trick. If its a trick, its one pattern. If its not, it's another. So out of respect for Uri, I won't say whether it's a trick or not, and believe me, as a mentalist, I know, I am one of the few homeopaths who could know for sure without administering the remedy and seeing its reaction.
There is one remedy associated with inadvertent psychokinesis, Syphillinum. I twould be interesting to know more particulars of the case.
Benneth
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Bending metal...as in fork tines and/or keys..
Thanks John, a very interesting post!
Can you tell us any more about "There is one remedy associated with inadvertent psychokinesis, Syphillinum."? Where did you learn this connection from, and do you recall any cases or anecdotes?
Shannon
Can you tell us any more about "There is one remedy associated with inadvertent psychokinesis, Syphillinum."? Where did you learn this connection from, and do you recall any cases or anecdotes?
Shannon