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John R. Benneth
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Response to Ellen Madono regarding the physics of homeopathy

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Hi Ellen . .
It is never a waste of time to answer someone making this sort of an inquiry.
I admit I am "sharp tongued" toward people who present their assumptions as facts. Homeopathy has constantly been under the strain of disbelief, and so on one side I find people who believe in homeopathically but haven't read the literature that supports the physics of homeopathy, and on the other side people who don't believe in homeopathy who won't read the literature, and yet many of both types are still have words for it, which spring, I belive from nothing more than pure hubris, which is there real enemy of medicine, which has always been the prerogative of science.
Most real scientists are very quiet, cautious people who keep their heads down and their mouths shut most of the time, and when they do speak they usually have something quite cogent to say. Case inpoint are the people who have done some outstanding work in behalf of homeopathy and been roundly punished for it, the greater the work, the greater the punishment, and Jacques Benveniste is a case in point.
Where in the literature do we find any reference to electromagnetic indices prior to Davenas, [the replication by Benveniste of Potevin's supramolecular provocation of basophil degranulation]. Montagnier, who conducting his tests of a solution that couldbe described as a homeopathic remedy, did one of the greatest experiments and studies of the material sciences of all time. He calls Benveniste a modern Galileo.
Benveniste stood up a the Cavendish and presented the underpinnings of homeopathy as a new biological paradigm. Here is one of the world's leading immunologists, not a homeopath, but the head of INSERM, the French Ministries of Health and Research's institute of health and research,validating homeopathy. But what was the response from the homeopathic community? Did we validate him? No,of course not. Did we defend him against the predictable attack by the ruling allopathic/science cabal, led by James Randi> No, of course not.
Greek homeopath George Vithoulkas, our leading authority at the time, instead of applauding joined with magician James Randi to attack Benveniste . .
Why?
Because, just like Randi, the test results of in vitro "homeopathics" were not whatt Vithoulkas' wanted them to be, he couldn't understand how indiividual blood cells could be activated by the remedy, yet here was a highly credible medical researcher who, with VIhtoulkas' objections aside, was proving in vitro that homeopathy works.
So hoperfully you can understand my disapopointment then and my anger now.
Although my presence at the Cavendish was also protested when I presented the supramolecular structural theory and EM indices for "homeopathic" medicine at the Cavendish. and lthough it may may have been more controversial, I was well treated by Prof Josephson and the audience, so it must have been easier for me than it was for Benveniste, and this is because I think he had paved the way . .
So much for my apology for a sharp tongue. And I appreciate your circumspection. I think one way to understand homeopathy's mode of operation is to consider it a piezo electric, ca liquid crystalline effect, as foiund in crystal radios that without any power swdource other than the signal itself, transduce [convert one wave into another] broadcast signals into audio, just as background radiation, the cosmic/geomagentic envelope around the Earth, called the Schumann resonances, is transduced by the liquid water nano crystal, similar to the clathrate, in the homeopathic remedy, into the unique EM signal of the starting material.
1.) Clathrates are compounds in which molecules of one component [often referred to as the "guest," in this solutes, i.e. molecules used as the starting solution in homeopathic remedies] are physically trapped within the crystal structure of another [referred to as the "host," in this case water or ethanol/water solutions]. Through protic polarization the host water crystallizes around the guest solute to form a macro of it, which acts like a crystal radio, "broadcasting" the guest's unique signal.
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John Benneth
In a message dated 8/31/2013 5:19:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ellen.madono@gmail.com writes:
1. ibid
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Re: Response to Ellen Madono regarding the physics of homeopathy

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John,

Every assumption is someone else's fact, and every fact is someone else's assumption. Newtonian physics was just about everyone's fact until Relativity and quantum physics came along. It is a fact that cold fusion is bunk, except now I KNOW that that fact has become an assumption and that cold fusion is a FACT. Your excuse for being impatient is hurting your heart and building your ego and irritating others. BUT, you are in good company, if we ASSUME that I am good company. I do exactly the same thing. I think that it is a disease of the intellectual. It is as though we had logical needs (as opposed to emotional needs).

Roger
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Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 15:47:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Response to Ellen Madono regarding the physics of homeopathy
Hi Ellen . .
It is never a waste of time to answer someone making this sort of an inquiry.
I admit I am "sharp tongued" toward people who present their assumptions as facts. Homeopathy has constantly been under the strain of disbelief, and so on one side I find people who believe in homeopathically but haven't read the literature that supports the physics of homeopathy, and on the other side people who don't believe in homeopathy who won't read the literature, and yet many of both types are still have words for it, which spring, I belive from nothing more than pure hubris, which is there real enemy of medicine, which has always been the prerogative of science.
Most real scientists are very quiet, cautious people who keep their heads down and their mouths shut most of the time, and when they do speak they usually have something quite cogent to say. Case inpoint are the people who have done some outstanding work in behalf of homeopathy and been roundly punished for it, the greater the work, the greater the punishment, and Jacques Benveniste is a case in point.
Where in the literature do we find any reference to electromagnetic indices prior to Davenas, [the replication by Benveniste of Potevin's supramolecular provocation of basophil degranulation]. Montagnier, who conducting his tests of a solution that couldbe described as a homeopathic remedy, did one of the greatest experiments and studies of the material sciences of all time. He calls Benveniste a modern Galileo.
Benveniste stood up a the Cavendish and presented the underpinnings of homeopathy as a new biological paradigm. Here is one of the world's leading immunologists, not a homeopath, but the head of INSERM, the French Ministries of Health and Research's institute of health and research,validating homeopathy. But what was the response from the homeopathic community? Did we validate him? No,of course not. Did we defend him against the predictable attack by the ruling allopathic/science cabal, led by James Randi> No, of course not.
Greek homeopath George Vithoulkas, our leading authority at the time, instead of applauding joined with magician James Randi to attack Benveniste . .
Why?
Because, just like Randi, the test results of in vitro "homeopathics" were not whatt Vithoulkas' wanted them to be, he couldn't understand how indiividual blood cells could be activated by the remedy, yet here was a highly credible medical researcher who, with VIhtoulkas' objections aside, was proving in vitro that homeopathy works.
So hoperfully you can understand my disapopointment then and my anger now.
Although my presence at the Cavendish was also protested when I presented the supramolecular structural theory and EM indices for "homeopathic" medicine at the Cavendish. and lthough it may may have been more controversial, I was well treated by Prof Josephson and the audience, so it must have been easier for me than it was for Benveniste, and this is because I think he had paved the way . .
So much for my apology for a sharp tongue. And I appreciate your circumspection. I think one way to understand homeopathy's mode of operation is to consider it a piezo electric, ca liquid crystalline effect, as foiund in crystal radios that without any power swdource other than the signal itself, transduce [convert one wave into another] broadcast signals into audio, just as background radiation, the cosmic/geomagentic envelope around the Earth, called the Schumann resonances, is transduced by the liquid water nano crystal, similar to the clathrate, in the homeopathic remedy, into the unique EM signal of the starting material.
1.) Clathrates are compounds in which molecules of one component [often referred to as the "guest," in this solutes, i.e. molecules used as the starting solution in homeopathic remedies] are physically trapped within the crystal structure of another [referred to as the "host," in this case water or ethanol/water solutions]. Through protic polarization the host water crystallizes around the guest solute to form a macro of it, which acts like a crystal radio, "broadcasting" the guest's unique signal.
s
John Benneth
In a message dated 8/31/2013 5:19:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ellen.madono@gmail.com writes:
1. ibid
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