Arnica 200C

[Roger B]

I took Arnica 200C on Sunday and today. What a reduction in the pain level!!! It was difficult but not impossible to detect any improvement with Arnica 30C.

I noticed that Whole Foods sold only Arnica beyond the 30C level at 200C. This means that it is popular and that the manufacturers do not think that Arnica 200C is going to mess anyone up.

I found Arnica 200C in my homeopathy and flower remedy stash and could see that it had been prescibed to me by Dr. Cooper, my naturopathic doctor and homeopath, but so long ago that I could not remember him having done so. When I opened it, the top was very tight, and it was obvious that I had never used it before. I can't imagine why I would never use it. Perhaps I only used it once and the pellets expanded because Dr. Cooper puts a lot of the charged water in with his pellets.

Any thoughts from any of you-all real homeopaths would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Roger Bird

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Roger

2 Questions and a comment

1- Why did you repeat?

2- What 'thoughts' are you looking for?
Generally, a person who self treats using homeopathy, has a fool for a patient!
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger B
Sent: 19 November 2013 21:23
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
I took Arnica 200C on Sunday and today. What a reduction in the pain level!!! It was difficult but not impossible to detect any improvement with Arnica 30C.

I noticed that Whole Foods sold only Arnica beyond the 30C level at 200C. This means that it is popular and that the manufacturers do not think that Arnica 200C is going to mess anyone up.

I found Arnica 200C in my homeopathy and flower remedy stash and could see that it had been prescibed to me by Dr. Cooper, my naturopathic doctor and homeopath, but so long ago that I could not remember him having done so. When I opened it, the top was very tight, and it was obvious that I had never used it before. I can't imagine why I would never use it. Perhaps I only used it once and the pellets expanded because Dr. Cooper puts a lot of the charged water in with his pellets.

Any thoughts from any of you-all real homeopaths would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Roger Bird

[Roger B]

(1) I don't understand the "repeat" question. Is my comment a repeat of another of my emails?

(2) Whatever thoughts you think apply, like the one that you left about self-treating.

I am self-treating to save money. Since Dr. Cooper has already prescribed it for me in the distant past, and since I have had good results with Arnica 30C, I thought that it was worth the risk to save $85. So far it looks like the Arnica 200C is just what the doctor would have ordered (so to speak).

But I think that it is not my archetypal remedy; I forget how you homeopaths put it. I think it is working merely a la joepathy, something that works for most old people. Is aging a maintaining condition? That is the whole question with joepathy. Arnica 200C works so well with so many people, probably old people mostly, that at least one homeopathy manufacturer sells it in Whole Foods, and no other remedies goes over 30C. So, please, any thoughts are appreciated? (:->)

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: finrod@finrod.co.uk
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:25:21 +0000
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
Roger

2 Questions and a comment

1- Why did you repeat?

2- What 'thoughts' are you looking for?
Generally, a person who self treats using homeopathy, has a fool for a patient!
Best wishes

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger B
Sent: 19 November 2013 21:23
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
I took Arnica 200C on Sunday and today. What a reduction in the pain level!!! It was difficult but not impossible to detect any improvement with Arnica 30C.

I noticed that Whole Foods sold only Arnica beyond the 30C level at 200C. This means that it is popular and that the manufacturers do not think that Arnica 200C is going to mess anyone up.

I found Arnica 200C in my homeopathy and flower remedy stash and could see that it had been prescibed to me by Dr. Cooper, my naturopathic doctor and homeopath, but so long ago that I could not remember him having done so. When I opened it, the top was very tight, and it was obvious that I had never used it before. I can't imagine why I would never use it. Perhaps I only used it once and the pellets expanded because Dr. Cooper puts a lot of the charged water in with his pellets.

Any thoughts from any of you-all real homeopaths would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Roger Bird

[Rochelle Marsden]

Roger - if you take Arnica 30 - let alone 200 continually you will end up with proving symptoms and I certainly wouldn't want those!! If you really need a 200 more than once do put it in water and succuss before taking each time. This raises the potency very slightly each time you take it.
Rochelle
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[Roger B]

Why is it that Joe De Livera at http://www.joedelivera.com/ reports that with old people 80% find that they can take Arnica forever and it relieves pain forever? The only thing that I can figure is that for some people getting old is a maintaining cause (which can never be removed) and the Arnica compensates for it. I have asked about Joepathy in the past and I got no response. You can also find his contribution in ABCHomeopathy

And thanks for the info on succussing water.
Roger
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From: rochellemarsden@googlemail.com
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 02:07:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
Roger - if you take Arnica 30 - let alone 200 continually you will end up with proving symptoms and I certainly wouldn't want those!! If you really need a 200 more than once do put it in water and succuss before taking each time. This raises the potency very slightly each time you take it.
Rochelle
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Rochelle Marsden MSc RSHom AAMET
Registered Homeopath
EFT (Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

[Rochelle Marsden com]

Joe has been going for years. He is not a homeopath but he thinks that Arnica is the cure all for everything including aging. He reckons it keeps him young. I wouldn't want to take a dry dose daily like he does but then again maybe it is his remedy and if I remember rightly he take a 6c potency. My mother's remedy was Arsenicum and she used to benefit from taking an Arsenicum 6 whenever she needed one. She called it her happy pills. She lived an active life until she was 93 when one morning she just passed instantly- no illness and hopefully no pain. I have also heard of the elderly taking Rhus Tox 6 daily for their rheumatiic pain.
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Why is it that Joe De Livera at http://www.joedelivera.com/ reports that with old people 80% find that they can take Arnica forever and it relieves pain forever? The only thing that I can figure is that for some people getting old is a maintaining cause (which can never be removed) and the Arnica compensates for it. I have asked about Joepathy in the past and I got no response. You can also find his contribution in ABCHomeopathy

And thanks for the info on succussing water.
Roger
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From: rochellemarsden@...
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 02:07:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
Roger - if you take Arnica 30 - let alone 200 continually you will end up with proving symptoms and I certainly wouldn't want those!! If you really need a 200 more than once do put it in water and succuss before taking each time. This raises the potency very slightly each time you take it.
Rochelle
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[John R. Benneth]

I'd like to thank Roger for sharing his case information about Arnica.
Soroush, didn't you mean to say that the person who self treats has a fool for a doctor? In any case, if this is so, wjhy did Hahnemann recommend that a physician test homeopathics on himself?
Conversely, Kent warns against the indiscriminate use of high potencies
Accordingly, in regards to high potencies of Arnica, I had a very difficult case in Pakistan involving terrible boils that had suppurated, hanging like shreds from the axilla, as if cut by razors. The patient, in misery, had been to several homeopaths who had prescribed about a dozen different remedies to the only effect of suppuration, including both Hepar and Silica.
The repertorization revealed that the most indicated remedies had already been tried, and so I asked the Great Physician for guidance, and the answer immediately came to me that it was Arnica. When I saw the patient next I prescribed Arnica 10M. one pellet crushed in a spoon with a little water, stirred into a glass of water, a spoonful of that held in the mouth and then spit out.
The next day I saw the patient again, who was in a panic from turning red. A month later the patient had lost weight and was cured and is now a homeopath in Karachi.
This presents a bit of a dichotomy, one that I struggle with everyday. There are things only I can know about myself, and there are things that can only be seen by someone trained to see them. We never know anything about these medicines for sure.
Homoeopathy takes a lot of time, and whose time will it be?
Benneth
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

There is a conceptual difference between testing and treating, although, from personal experience, the test can result in a treatment ......

I have tested my system(s) on myself but for that I needed to use what seemed to be the correct remedy....it worked well. I am now doing it again as some new idea has popped out thanks to a few of my patients and the memory of an old friend and patient. But I cannot do it without using the remedy that appears to be the one needed. I just hope it will not be as excruciating as the last round.....after which I swore never to do that again...........stupid me.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD "The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

[Roger B]

Joe also reports many other people getting similar results, roughly 80% who try it.

I have stopped taking the Arnica 200C for a while as per Ellen M. thoughts.
Roger Bird
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From: rochellemarsden@googlemail.com
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 02:13:16 -0800
Subject: RE: RE: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
Joe has been going for years. He is not a homeopath but he thinks that Arnica is the cure all for everything including aging. He reckons it keeps him young. I wouldn't want to take a dry dose daily like he does but then again maybe it is his remedy and if I remember rightly he take a 6c potency. My mother's remedy was Arsenicum and she used to benefit from taking an Arsenicum 6 whenever she needed one. She called it her happy pills. She lived an active life until she was 93 when one morning she just passed instantly- no illness and hopefully no pain. I have also heard of the elderly taking Rhus Tox 6 daily for their rheumatiic pain.
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Why is it that Joe De Livera at http://www.joedelivera.com/ reports that with old people 80% find that they can take Arnica forever and it relieves pain forever? The only thing that I can figure is that for some people getting old is a maintaining cause (which can never be removed) and the Arnica compensates for it. I have asked about Joepathy in the past and I got no response. You can also find his contribution in ABCHomeopathy

And thanks for the info on succussing water.
Roger
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From: rochellemarsden@...
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 02:07:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Arnica 200C
Roger - if you take Arnica 30 - let alone 200 continually you will end up with proving symptoms and I certainly wouldn't want those!! If you really need a 200 more than once do put it in water and succuss before taking each time. This raises the potency very slightly each time you take it.
Rochelle
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[healthinfo6]

Roger,
Even innocent ol' Arnica can cause unexpected results, see below. Person still gets menstrual period every so often and one recent low potency 12C water dose prior to cosmetic face work (suggested by a dermatogist for Rezuline injection) caused muscle fatigue which I find happens when I take Arnica and it's not really needed.
Though, it may be educational if you do get some sort of proving at 200C or aggravation as that how one learns to respect homeopathic remedies, they are not vitamins.
Andre Saine once told me Arnica makes one mentally dull.
Susan
sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2013 4:41 am
Subject: Herniated Disks, Uterine Bleeding, Endometrial Ablation Was Slip and Fall on back
Person overdosed and took 6 pills of Arnica 30C for 10 days, said didn't see my email instructions NOT to keep taking if improvement, etc.
2 weeks ago, she had bleeding as if during a period for one day. Arnica MM has uterine hemorrhage. I found out about this a couple of days later, told her NOT to take any more Arnica, get Vicks VapoRub and apply all over as Camphor antidotes Arnica. Turns out she had an operation, endometrial ablation, a few years ago after having heavy period bleeding. Has not had bleeding or period since that operation until proving Arnica and not since stopping and using Vicks VapoRub.
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