So, here's the thing . . . .

[Roger B]

I used to live very nicely without excessive magnesium and water supplementation. What happened? I guess I got old, except that I don't know what that means functionally. I do know that painting myself with magnesium and drinking excessive water takes away most of the pain and stiffness and poor functioning.

Is there a homeopathic remedy to correct whatever is wrong with my metabolism that keeps me from utilizing magnesium and water as well as I used?
Roger

[Sheri Nakken]

It would involve looking at everything about you and finding the one remedy to treat you on a deep/constitutional level.
Homeopathy doesn't treat in the way you are saying below.
Sheri

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[domenicstanghini]

HI Roger

Some thoughts for you..

On top of the homeopathic remedy have you investigated IF there is something in your environment/food sources/genetics etc that maybe causing you to excrete more magnesium than usual or possibly it is not being assimilated by the body. examples below...this is copied and pasted for you...

check here ...http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/m ... magnesium/

Zinc....."High doses of zinc in supplemental form apparently interfere with the absorption of magnesium. One study reported that zinc supplements of 142 mg/day in healthy adult males significantly decreased magnesium absorption and disrupted magnesium balance (the difference between magnesium intake and magnesium loss) (4)."

check here and many other places...
http://divinehealthfromtheinsideout.com ... -the-body/

"Also an excess of certain minerals in the body can antagonize other minerals and cause depletion. For example, excess sodium depletes potassium. Excess calcium depletes magnesium by dominating over it. Too much of one will dominate the other. Iron and copper need to be in the right proportion and work together. They are co-factors. Potassium deficiency it's not enough to just take potassium, you also need magnesium. Potassium inside the cell needs magnesium to maintain it. Copper/zinc – copper tells the body to retain estrogen. Copper toxicity is commonly known in hyperactive violent individuals. It is a primary cause of miscarriages and susceptibility to postpartum depression."

So look to see if you might be inadvertently taking a supplement or from your environment to cause you to not retain magnesium or lose it or not have the ability to assimilate it.

Best Wishes Domenic
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Roger,

Excessive thirst and excessive magnesium requirement can both be caused by adrenal insufficiency -- which is very common, and I would think more so as one ages. Maybe someone can give a more nuanced explanation…

But whether the cause is that or something else, the homeopathic "cure" would have to be the whole-person treatment of regular homeopathic chronic care (sometimes called constitutional prescribing).

Shannon

[Roger B]

The difference between old and elderly is magnesium. I am just old trying to avoid elderly. I checked your suggestions; none of them seem to apply. You should know that there are a lot of old people doing this magnesium painting thingie. I could never have thought of this on my own: http://drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: pogman9999999@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 21:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

HI Roger

Some thoughts for you..

On top of the homeopathic remedy have you investigated IF there is something in your environment/food sources/genetics etc that maybe causing you to excrete more magnesium than usual or possibly it is not being assimilated by the body. examples below...this is copied and pasted for you...

check here ...http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/m ... magnesium/

Zinc....."High doses of zinc in supplemental form apparently interfere with the absorption of magnesium. One study reported that zinc supplements of 142 mg/day in healthy adult males significantly decreased magnesium absorption and disrupted magnesium balance (the difference between magnesium intake and magnesium loss) (4)."

check here and many other places...
http://divinehealthfromtheinsideout.com ... -the-body/

"Also an excess of certain minerals in the body can antagonize other minerals and cause depletion. For example, excess sodium depletes potassium. Excess calcium depletes magnesium by dominating over it. Too much of one will dominate the other. Iron and copper need to be in the right proportion and work together. They are co-factors. Potassium deficiency it's not enough to just take potassium, you also need magnesium. Potassium inside the cell needs magnesium to maintain it. Copper/zinc – copper tells the body to retain estrogen. Copper toxicity is commonly known in hyperactive violent individuals. It is a primary cause of miscarriages and susceptibility to postpartum depression."

So look to see if you might be inadvertently taking a supplement or from your environment to cause you to not retain magnesium or lose it or not have the ability to assimilate it.

Best Wishes Domenic

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Roger B wrote:

[Roger B]

I will be calling him tomorrow. He is such a dear fellow!

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:04:05 -0600
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

Hi Roger,
Excessive thirst and excessive magnesium requirement can both be caused by adrenal insufficiency -- which is very common, and I would think more so as one ages. Maybe someone can give a more nuanced explanation…

But whether the cause is that or something else, the homeopathic "cure" would have to be the whole-person treatment of regular homeopathic chronic care (sometimes called constitutional prescribing).

Shannon

[Roger B]

Dear Shannon,

I think that you are right on. I think that another word for adrenal insufficiency might be "deficient kidney jing". Is edema or fat feet also a symptom of adrenal insufficiency?

I am still going to use the homeopathic option, or as I like to say, "the nuclear option". But I will work on this adrenal insufficiency or deficient kidney jing independently.

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:04:05 -0600
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: So, here's the thing . . . .

Hi Roger,
Excessive thirst and excessive magnesium requirement can both be caused by adrenal insufficiency -- which is very common, and I would think more so as one ages. Maybe someone can give a more nuanced explanation…

But whether the cause is that or something else, the homeopathic "cure" would have to be the whole-person treatment of regular homeopathic chronic care (sometimes called constitutional prescribing).
Shannon

[Sheri Nakken]

here is the thing.................Aphorism 1 and footnote: (we cannot figure all of this out - the key is to use the symptom picture and find the one right remedy taking into account maintaining causes):
Paragraph (Aphorism) 1 (footnotes 1) (CAPS my own)

The physician's high and only mission is to restore the sick to health, to cure, as it is termed.1

footnote 1"The physician's calling is not to concoct so-called systems from empty conceits and hypotheses concerning the inner wesen (my note-kind of like nature or knowing) of the life process and the origins of disease in the invisible interior of the organism (on which so many physicians mongering for fame have hitherto wasted their time and energy). "

"The physicians calling is not to make countless attempts at explanation regarding disease appearances and their proximate cause (which must ever remain concealed) holding forth in unintelligible words or abstract and pompous expressions in order to appear very learned and astonish the ignorant, while a sick world sighs in vain for help. Of such learned fanaticism (to which the name 'theoretical medicinal art' is given, and for which special professorships are instituted) we have had quite enough. It is high time for all those who call themselves physicians, once and for all, to stop deceiving suffering humanity with idle talk, and to 'begin' now to act, that is to really help and to cure."

Can you find an excellent homeopath (since that is what this list is about) and have your whole case taken and look at all of this?

Sheri

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[Shannon Nelson]

Appropriate homeopathic care would be addressing those also, just as an intrinsic part of the treatment. However you can certainly use other supportive measures at the same time! (Things that would not interfere with the homeopathy, I mean.)

Edema, I have read different things that can be related to, but one (in my own experience) is protein; either not eating enough, or eating it in a form that is not sufficiently digested. But there could be multiple causes… Taking hydrochloric acid might be important in the short run?

Shannon
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[Sheri Nakken]

Let's teach Roger more about homeopathy and it being about the symptom picture and not trying to figure so many things out. There are maintaining factors that may be part of it, but I tried for years to 'figure out' my migraines - changing my diet, place I lived, chiropractic, acupuncture - I thought about it till I was nuts. But homeopathy and 1 remedy and 1 month later, I was cured.
Sheri

At 03:54 PM 11/6/2013, you wrote:
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