Thank you Roger for this. I have a small farm, I may not sell raw, natural milk. For me to get everything needed to sell milk from my farm it is cost prohibitive. This kind of legislation that allows the sales of raw milk protects the small farmer. If the rules are you must have pasturized milk than anyone who is not large enough to comply is left behind.
Buying raw milk from a farm does not mean you cannot heat it yourself, it just means you are getting the 'real' milk the way the animal made it. And yes, much better to check out the farm yourself for cleanliness, etc.
Maria
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Re: Raw milk is gaining
Yes - Maria
I am an advocate of raw milk - but people should know that they have to heat it before consuming. But government is again meddling and trying to keep it for the large companies- what else is new.
Gisela DiCarlo
http://thebeautygroup.org
http://mylife-mywill.org
Tel: 570 296 5613
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: mtbohle@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:17:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Thank you Roger for this. I have a small farm, I may not sell raw, natural milk. For me to get everything needed to sell milk from my farm it is cost prohibitive. This kind of legislation that allows the sales of raw milk protects the small farmer. If the rules are you must have pasturized milk than anyone who is not large enough to comply is left behind.
Buying raw milk from a farm does not mean you cannot heat it yourself, it just means you are getting the 'real' milk the way the animal made it. And yes, much better to check out the farm yourself for cleanliness, etc.
Maria
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I am an advocate of raw milk - but people should know that they have to heat it before consuming. But government is again meddling and trying to keep it for the large companies- what else is new.
Gisela DiCarlo
http://thebeautygroup.org
http://mylife-mywill.org
Tel: 570 296 5613
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: mtbohle@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:17:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Thank you Roger for this. I have a small farm, I may not sell raw, natural milk. For me to get everything needed to sell milk from my farm it is cost prohibitive. This kind of legislation that allows the sales of raw milk protects the small farmer. If the rules are you must have pasturized milk than anyone who is not large enough to comply is left behind.
Buying raw milk from a farm does not mean you cannot heat it yourself, it just means you are getting the 'real' milk the way the animal made it. And yes, much better to check out the farm yourself for cleanliness, etc.
Maria
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Re: Raw milk is gaining
I wouldn’t heat raw milk. That IS the point about using it.
If used for cheese or yogurt, then it would have to be handled
differently, with very low heat applied in an attempt to not
destroy the beneficial bacteria and enzyme content or
other nutritive elements.
t
From: Gisela dicarlo
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:02 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Yes - Maria
I am an advocate of raw milk - but people should know that they have to heat it before consuming. But government is again meddling and trying to keep it for the large companies- what else is new.
Gisela DiCarlo
http://thebeautygroup.org
http://mylife-mywill.org
Tel: 570 296 5613
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: mtbohle@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:17:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Thank you Roger for this. I have a small farm, I may not sell raw, natural milk. For me to get everything needed to sell milk from my farm it is cost prohibitive. This kind of legislation that allows the sales of raw milk protects the small farmer. If the rules are you must have pasturized milk than anyone who is not large enough to comply is left behind.
Buying raw milk from a farm does not mean you cannot heat it yourself, it just means you are getting the 'real' milk the way the animal made it. And yes, much better to check out the farm yourself for cleanliness, etc.
Maria
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If used for cheese or yogurt, then it would have to be handled
differently, with very low heat applied in an attempt to not
destroy the beneficial bacteria and enzyme content or
other nutritive elements.
t
From: Gisela dicarlo
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:02 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Yes - Maria
I am an advocate of raw milk - but people should know that they have to heat it before consuming. But government is again meddling and trying to keep it for the large companies- what else is new.
Gisela DiCarlo
http://thebeautygroup.org
http://mylife-mywill.org
Tel: 570 296 5613
________________________________
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: mtbohle@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:17:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
Thank you Roger for this. I have a small farm, I may not sell raw, natural milk. For me to get everything needed to sell milk from my farm it is cost prohibitive. This kind of legislation that allows the sales of raw milk protects the small farmer. If the rules are you must have pasturized milk than anyone who is not large enough to comply is left behind.
Buying raw milk from a farm does not mean you cannot heat it yourself, it just means you are getting the 'real' milk the way the animal made it. And yes, much better to check out the farm yourself for cleanliness, etc.
Maria
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Re: Raw milk is gaining
and why would you have to heat it? We do NOT want to heat and destroy good bacteria and enzymes.
If you do, it is no different than commercial
Sheri
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If you do, it is no different than commercial
Sheri
At 08:27 PM 8/8/2013, you wrote:
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Re: Raw milk is gaining
I would not want to heat it but if using it to make cheese or yogurt it will need
to be warmed some, not cooked.
t
From: Sheri Nakken
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:47 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
and why would you have to heat it? We do NOT want to heat and destroy good bacteria and enzymes.
If you do, it is no different than commercial
Sheri
At 08:27 PM 8/8/2013, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Next classes start April 18, 19, 25
to be warmed some, not cooked.
t
From: Sheri Nakken
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:47 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Raw milk is gaining
and why would you have to heat it? We do NOT want to heat and destroy good bacteria and enzymes.
If you do, it is no different than commercial
Sheri
At 08:27 PM 8/8/2013, you wrote:
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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases
Next classes start April 18, 19, 25
Re: Raw milk is gaining
I've been rather passively active amongst you here-- so glad for all the information I've been learning. And now, I'm slowly going to be starting to participate more here.
This particular issue, while not directly homeopathic, is something I have fairly strong convictions about.
I've voted on this in favor of raw milk-- thank you for sharing the link, Roger.
I'm in the same boat as Maria. We are on our own farm, and, among our animals, we have dairy goats. The good, fresh, unadulterated (aka "raw") milk is all we've been drinking for years now, and we are quite healthy. I make cheeses and yogurt-- and even soaps with it. But Maria's right. While I, too, encourage people to check out the private dairies from which they'd like to purchase fresh milk to ensure cleanliness and proper care of the milk, we cannot openly market our milk. All the "red tape" and associated costs/fees we need to go through and spend in order to sell our milk and dairy products in their pure state is very prohibitive and, are in my opinion, designed to keep the big farms in business.
Yes, you do need to heat milk up to make cheeses and yogurts-- and even soaps, by the way. Never very high, except with certain cheeses (ricotta being one). And especially goat milk is kept at a very low temp. Never more than 90F for cheeses. And I like to keep my soap temps below 80F.
I suppose this actually can tie in with homeopathy too-- nature's medicine. I believe what we've got today, with milk, is much like the vaccine issue. Milk in its natural state has always been good for mankind. But then this technique called pasteurization came into play-- and they worked to sell this by tying it in with the fact that it destroys bacteria, which have got to be bad, of course. (So they've been telling us. . . . .) We here know better than this, of course. But look at the hold this has on society. And, concurrently with that, look at the real "need" there is today for pasteurization when milk comes from the huge, filthy dairies that use the horrid growth hormone with their cows (some of those poor cows, in places, are producing 22 gallons of milk a day-- absolutely unreal), fed the horrible GMO grains, and more horrendous activities. But yet there is so much money involved with them that they are persecuting the dairy farmers that want to simply provide good, fresh, whole milk to people who are educated enough to know they truly want it.
Maybe it's a stretch, but I do liken fresh whole milk in with whole medicine and wellness. I love our goats and the milk we get from them. This is a definite something that contributes to the health of our family.
In health!
- Cathy Lemmon
List Owner, Homeopathy-and-SN
(http://groups.yahoo.com)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque" wrote:
This particular issue, while not directly homeopathic, is something I have fairly strong convictions about.
I've voted on this in favor of raw milk-- thank you for sharing the link, Roger.
I'm in the same boat as Maria. We are on our own farm, and, among our animals, we have dairy goats. The good, fresh, unadulterated (aka "raw") milk is all we've been drinking for years now, and we are quite healthy. I make cheeses and yogurt-- and even soaps with it. But Maria's right. While I, too, encourage people to check out the private dairies from which they'd like to purchase fresh milk to ensure cleanliness and proper care of the milk, we cannot openly market our milk. All the "red tape" and associated costs/fees we need to go through and spend in order to sell our milk and dairy products in their pure state is very prohibitive and, are in my opinion, designed to keep the big farms in business.
Yes, you do need to heat milk up to make cheeses and yogurts-- and even soaps, by the way. Never very high, except with certain cheeses (ricotta being one). And especially goat milk is kept at a very low temp. Never more than 90F for cheeses. And I like to keep my soap temps below 80F.
I suppose this actually can tie in with homeopathy too-- nature's medicine. I believe what we've got today, with milk, is much like the vaccine issue. Milk in its natural state has always been good for mankind. But then this technique called pasteurization came into play-- and they worked to sell this by tying it in with the fact that it destroys bacteria, which have got to be bad, of course. (So they've been telling us. . . . .) We here know better than this, of course. But look at the hold this has on society. And, concurrently with that, look at the real "need" there is today for pasteurization when milk comes from the huge, filthy dairies that use the horrid growth hormone with their cows (some of those poor cows, in places, are producing 22 gallons of milk a day-- absolutely unreal), fed the horrible GMO grains, and more horrendous activities. But yet there is so much money involved with them that they are persecuting the dairy farmers that want to simply provide good, fresh, whole milk to people who are educated enough to know they truly want it.
Maybe it's a stretch, but I do liken fresh whole milk in with whole medicine and wellness. I love our goats and the milk we get from them. This is a definite something that contributes to the health of our family.
In health!
- Cathy Lemmon
List Owner, Homeopathy-and-SN
(http://groups.yahoo.com)
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "tamarque" wrote: